Study Verifies That There Is No Value In Any Flu Vaccine

[FORD]

Using a credit card is a choice. Getting sick or injured is not. So why should people be forced into hidden "fine print" charges due to circumstances beyond their control?

[Nitro Express]

Using a credit card is a choice. Getting sick or injured is not. So why should people be forced into hidden "fine print" charges due to circumstances beyond their control?

Forced? If that's the case it's racketeering. I hate hidden shit in fine print as well but unfortunately that seems to be where things have gone. I think an important question to ask is why? We used to have great healthcare in this country and when I first got married 20 years ago, I never thought about it. It was just another insurance expense. Something went crazy in the last two decades. Corruption and it's across the board and in everything. Maybe in the past people were just more honest in general? Maybe thats what happened.

My dad said my grandfather used to do huge deals on a hand shake and the most insulting thing you could do to a person was call them a liar. People guarded their reputations like they were fine wine or gold. Not today. If people can find a legal loophole they will skull fuck you. So much unethical behavior is done because the so called law allows it. That nasty lawyer thing you know. I think that is what has gone wrong.

So what to do? Both the private sector and the government are full of thieving rats. I've seen a wonderfully ran country hospital become poorly ran in the last ten years and because of poor management it was sold to a private company. The prices pretty much doubled. It was really good when the country ran it but something happend. Corrupt idiots happened and I think this is the major problem no matter who is running the show.

[BigBadBrian]

A word about the author



In other words Dave is NOT a doctor and practices non evidence based nonsense which is actually banned in some US States and restricted in many others.

Yep. There isn't anyone in the medical field that will rip you off faster than a Naturopath. Fucking Quacks.

[BigBadBrian]

Maybe the doctors should study ME. And they will tell you what Nitro said above: If you just eat a balanced diet, wash your hands, keep your fingers out of your nose and mouth, get plenty of vitamin C and D, get proper sleep amounts, lower your stress, and get some exercise. You will be healthier.

Healthier? Maybe.

Immune to illness, including the flu? No.

[Seshmeister]

Sesh is a dyed in the wool socialist that probably never had to meet a payroll or employed anyone in his life. He believes the average person is too stupid to take care of themselves and needs academics and elites to regulate and run society. Such people love government checks but rarely think where that money actually comes from. They hate the rich but fail to realize it's rich bankers who are behind the socialist agenda and support it because it eliminates competition and concentrates power into a few people they own. This is why rich capitalists like George Soros back socialism. It's great for the fat cats who control it behind the scenes and eliminates any new comers because they can't get a business off the ground due to all the regulations and taxes. Everyone becomes a slave dependent on the government for everything. If corporations are involved in this monopoly, it's fascism but that's just a technicality.

Socialists all sound the same and give the same answers. If your medical data comes from the World Health Organization they will lap it up but if it comes from somewhere else it's shit.

Ouch.

I make a real point of trying to keep my real life out of posts here firstly because it seems to end up turning into ammo which is a shame but also because a lot of the good thing about the internet is that we all come here as equals and this is somewhere where we can debate without the trappings and preconceptions of the real world.

That said people that have been paying attention here over the years will know I set up my first company 12 years ago and now employ people in the UK and US, it's in the healthcare sector and I'm super lucky in that I can sleep well at night doing something pretty worthwhile.

As far as your other assumptions I think Ford's signature sums it up better.

That and I'm into truth and have enough heart to give a flying fuck about people that have had a shittier hand of cards to play than me.

[Seshmeister]

Nobody gets out alive Sesh. I'm having fun. Are you?

I'm a happy camper.

Very few things in life annoy me, I'm one of the most laid back people I know but I have to admit that quacks drive me fucking nuts.

[Seshmeister]

Yep, 20 years is more than enough...

It's nothing but glorified secreterial work where nothing but compliance is rewarded...

I'm doing custom wood work and fabrication and I'm doing well for just starting out...

That's tremendous, exciting times for you, I really hope it works out.

[ELVIS]

Thanks!!!

But don't mind nitro...

[Dan]

Just out of curiousity, what are your credentials Sesh?

Yes,Please Tell Us?

[Dr. Love]

At least credit cards aren't mandatory. Arguably a necessary evil, but there's no law (not now and not in 2014) that says you MUST have one.

I cannot think of one reason why they are necessary (only evil). I truly believe that credit cards are a big part of what is hurting our country, because people apparently lack the self control to save up for the things they want and give in to the instant gratification without thinking of the hidden costs. The best thing I have done for myself to date has been to pay off and cancel every credit account I have had. I save up for anything I want and enjoy it all the more for having waited and planned out the acquisition.

Credit cards are evil and I refuse to personally support that industry in any shape or form. If it were at all possible to outlaw them, I would be in favor of it in a heartbeat. They do nothing but take advantage of the stupid and poor with the intent of ripping people off. My wife took a seasonal job selling retail clothes (God only knows why she wanted to) and to work there, you have to push their credit card. The interest rate? 24% ... before any of the penalties if you miss payments. And they sign people up all day long.

That shit ruins peoples lives.

[Seshmeister]

Yes,Please Tell Us?

I'm a bit confused by the question.

I'm not offering people medical treatment.

I'm not selling shitty DVD's or fake medicine.

I have some university degrees and stuff but they aren't in medicine.

All I'm doing is shining some light on some quacks.

I haven't posted 'you need to believe me because I an qualified' I'm linking you with the information to make up your own mind.

The original post cites a fucking geologist as a medical expert and was written by a pretend doctor. If you want to make a big spectacular claim, in this case that all the public health doctors and scientists in the world are wrong then you need something a bit fucking better than those two jokers.

[Dan]

Damn,I Need A Drink Now.

[ELVIS]

Well, I posted this thread as something to consider, not as 100% fact...

So let me find something more credible...

[Nickdfresh]

I don't think flu shots are very effective at all. I think it's all about making money...t.

Ludicrous. The only reason the vaccine doesn't work is that they sometimes misforecast which strain will hit in a given year. And if you've ever read anything, you'd know that vaccines are one of the least profitable products for drug companies...

[ELVIS]

Dr. Tenpenny

Link


What’s in the regular flu shot?



Egg proteins: including avian contaminant viruses
Gelatin: can cause allergic reactions and anaphylaxis are usually associated with sensitivity to egg or gelatin
Polysorbate 80 (Tween80™): can cause severe allergic reactions, including
anaphylaxis. Also associated with inferility in female mice.

Formaldehyde: known carcinogen
Triton X100: a strong detergent
Sucrose: table sugar
Resin: known to cause allergic reactions
Gentamycin: an antibiotic
Thimerosal: mercury is still in multidose flu shot vials


Do flu shots work?



Not in babies: In a review of more than 51 studies involving more than 294,000 children it was found there was "no evidence that injecting children 6-24 months of age with a flu shotwas any more effective than placebo. In children over 2 yrs, it was only effective 33% of the time in preventing the flu.

Reference: "Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy children." The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews. 2 (2008).



Not in children with asthma: A study 800 children with asthma, where one half were vaccinated and the other half did not receive the influenza vaccine. The two groups were compared with respect to clinic visits, emergency department (ED) visits, and hospitalizations for asthma. CONCLUSION: This study failed to provide evidence that the influenza vaccine prevents pediatric asthma exacerbations.

Reference: "Effectiveness of influenza vaccine for the prevention of asthma exacerbations." Christly, C. et al. Arch Dis Child. 2004 Aug;89(8):734-5.



Not in children with asthma (2): "The inactivated flu vaccine, Flumist, does not prevent influenza-related hospitalizations in children, especially the ones with asthma…In fact, children who get the flu vaccine are more at risk for hospitalization than children who do not get the vaccine."

Reference: The American Thoracic Society’s 105th International Conference, May 15-20, 2009, San Diego.



Not in adults: In a review of 48 reports including more than 66,000 adults, "Vaccination of healthy adults only reduced risk of influenza by 6% and reduced the number of missed work days by less than one day (0.16) days. It did not change the number of people needing to go to hospital or take time off work."

Reference: "Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy adults." The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews. 1 (2006).



Not in the Elderly: In a review of 64 studies in 98 flu seasons, For elderly living in nursing homes, flu shots were non-significant for preventing the flu. For elderly living in the community, vaccines were not (significantly) effective against influenza, ILI or pneumonia.

Reference: "Vaccines for preventing influenza in the elderly." The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews.3 (2006).



What about the new Swine Flu shot?

Some of the new H1N1 (swine flu) vaccines are going to be made by Novartis. These shots will probably be made in PER.C6 cells (human retina cells) and contain MF59, a potentially debilitating adjuvant. MF-59 is an oil-based adjuvant primarily composed of squalene.


All rats injected with squalene (oil) adjuvants developed a disease that left them crippled, dragging their paralyzed hindquarters across their cages. Injected squalene can cause severe arthritis (3 on scale of 4) and severe immune responses, such as autoimmune arthritis and lupus.
Ref: (1): Kenney, RT. Edleman, R. "Survey of human-use adjuvants." Expert Review of Vaccines. 2 (2003) p171.
Ref: (2): Matsumoto, Gary. Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That’s Killing Our Soldiers and Why GI’s Are Only the First Victims of this Vaccine. New York: Basic Books. p54.

Federal health officials are starting to recommend that most Americans get three flu shots this fall: one regular flu shot and two doses of the vaccine made against the new swine flu strain. School children who have never had a flu shot are targeted for four shots in the fall - twice for seasonal flu, twice for pandemic swine flu. (July 15, 2009 news)


HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has been talking to school superintendents around the country, urging them to make plans to use buildings for mass vaccinations and for vaccinating kids first. (CBS News, June 12, 2009.)


Is Mandatory Vaccination Possible?



1946: US Public Health Service was established and Executive Order (EO) 9708 was signed, listing the communicable diseases where quarantines could be used. 1946 and 2003, cholera, diphtheria, TB, typhoid, smallpox, yellow fever, & viral hemorrhagic fevers were added.



April 4, 2003: EO 13295 added SARS to the list.



April 1, 2005: EO 13295 added "Influenza caused by novel or re-emergent influenza viruses that are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic." EO 13295 also: The president gave the Sec. of HHS the power to quarantine, his or her discretion. Sec of HHS has the power to arrange for the "apprehension and examination of persons reasonably thought to be infected." A cough or a fever could put a person at risk for being quarantined for an extended period of time without recourse.



January 28, 2003: Project BioShield was introduced during Bush’s State of the Union Address. This created permanent and indefinite funding authority to develop "medical countermeasures."

The NIH was given authority to speed approval of drugs and vaccines. Emergency approval of a "fast tracked" drug and vaccine can be given without the regular course of safety testing.



December 17, 2006: Division E: The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREPA) was added as an addendum to Defense Appropriations Bill HR 2863 at 11:20p on Saturday night, long after House Committee members

had signed off on the bill and gone home for the holidays.

Section (b)(1) states: The Sec of HHS can make a determination that a "disease, health condition or threat" constitutes a public health emergency. He or she may then recommend "the manufacture, testing, development, administration, or use of one or more covered counter measures…" A covered countermeasure defined as a "pandemic product, vaccine or drug."

Division E also provides complete liability protection for all drugs, vaccines or biological products deemed a "covered countermeasure" and used for an outbreak of any kind. In July, 2009, complete liability protection was extened to drug companies that included any product used for any public health emergency declared by Sec of HHS.



Pharma is now protected from all accountability, unless "criminal intent to do harm" can be proven by the injured party. They are protected from liability even if they know the drug will be harmful.

"By 1853, Parliament began passing laws to make the untested vaccine compulsory throughout the British Empire. Other countries of Europe followed suit. Once the economic implications of compulsory vaccinations were realized, few dared to disagree. Then, as now, the media were controlled by the vaccine manufacturers and the government, who stood to make huge money from the sale of these spurious vaccines."... Tim O'Shea, D.C.

What can you do?

These are just a few suggestions; please come up with more of your own! Add to this list and spread the word.



Give this information to everyone you know and love.
Contact local first responders (EMTs, Paramedics, Fireman, etc). Tell them what is will be in the flu shots and that *they* will be the first ones to get it.
Contact local police and discuss concerns about mandatory vaccination. You go to church and to the grocery store with these folks and their kids play with your kids. They are not "scary" people. Take them coffee and a treat to get in the door.
Contact local city council members about your liberties. You need their support to maintain your right to refuse.
Write a small article for LOCAL, community newspapers. Watch for samples on http://www.drtenpenny.com
Have at least 3 weeks of food and water at your house and be prepared to voluntarily self-quarantine of given no other options.
Stock up on Vitamin D3 (3000 IU per person), Vitamin A, Vitamin C, etc and homeopathics for the flu
Check out http://www.oathkeepers.org and http://www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com. A pdf of their oath for easy printing is on www.DrTenpenny.com I am sharing this with local military recruitment office, reservists and retired military people we know.
Connect with other activist organizations – those who support 2nd amendment issues, the environmental and animal rights. Help spread the word about their passion and get them involved with yours.


You can't do it all, but you can do something!



* As stated years ago by Margaret Mead, "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has."