Oakland's still going to fire Tom Cable, even after a continued improvement. That organization is a fucking joke...
Al Davis makes Jerry Jones look like fucking Art Modell...
Oakland's still going to fire Tom Cable, even after a continued improvement. That organization is a fucking joke...
Al Davis makes Jerry Jones look like fucking Art Modell...
"Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."
I can't wait for Davis' press conference, where he goes on to describe how Cable's coaching methods were inconsistent with Raider tradition. You know...losing.
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”― Stephen Hawking
losing sucks....
and I'm downright pissed that we lost TWICE to Oakland.
“Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.” ~~Maria Robinson
Firing Cable is just insane. For the first time in years, the program is headed in the right direction...so naturally, it's time to start all over again.
If I had a young football team...I'd hire Cable. He's not a big name...but he's done a great job under terrible conditions. Maybe a team like Carolina...
They showed Al Davis watching one of the games recently, and I am sure he was already dead.
I'm not even a Cable fan but can't believe he is being fired. New coach, new system, doesn't make any sense but then again, that is Al Davis.
Not quite, but very, very close...Originally Posted by Von Halen
Agreed !! He did a great job with very little. Al needs to go away !!! I do think he was great for the NFL in his day knocking head's with Rozzel all the time but the Raiders have sucked for 10 years and this is the best they have looked since then.
please hire mohrniweg so the browns don't al, please, please.
Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team
Mohrningweg...Mohrningweg!!!!
Man...that would make me fucking laugh...
Who would hire Morningwood after the bang up job he did as the Lions coach?
Al Davis is fucked in the head if he gets rid of Cable. I mean the Raiders had their first successful season in ages this year. What 8-8 is not bad enough for him? LOL.
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Not quite, but very, very close...
How many of you guys when you read Chefs post, read the word "Excellence" in your mind exactly the way Mr. Burns says it? I tried several times to read it to myself pronouncing it normal but just couldn't do it.
“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”
Although not nearly as evil and decrepit, Alex Spanos is a fucking douche bag. And oh boy is he really getting the heat in San Diego. Firing Marty after going 14-2. Hiring Norv. Letting AJ get to powerful. LaDanian gone. Merrimen bust. Vincent Jackson drama. Traded away Drew Breeze. Will most likely move to Los Angeles. etc...
Ah...such a great time to be a fan of the AFC West.
Cable is gone...
Tell me...who even fucking ponders working for that fucking crazy ass, insane, weekend with bernies 2 motherfucker...
Nobody...fuck them...
As I had hoped for in the second post of this thread, Al Davis held an at times bizarre presser to explain how Tom Cable's coaching methods were inconsistent with Raider tradition. Apparently, it had little to do with coaching, but more about Cable bringing his girlfriend on the road with him. Oh, and that pesky assault deal with assistant coach Randy Hanson.
Al Davis lets loose on why he fired Tom Cable
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Hue Jackson is the Raiders new head coach, and Tom Cable has moved on to coach the offensive line in Seattle. The puppetmaster behind all of this, as always, was Raiders owner Al Davis.
Davis finally explained Tuesday why he fired Cable, who got the Raiders to .500 for the first time in eight years. Some of it even has to do with football, but what Davis addressed most were off-field issues, according to examiner.com.
First, there was Cable's alleged assault of former assistant coach Randy Hanson. No one knows for sure how it happened -- not even Al Davis -- but Hanson emerged from a meeting with Cable with a broken jaw and busted teeth, and then sued Cable and the organization. No criminal charges were ever filed. This took place before the 2009 season.
Davis was also troubled by the allegations of Marie Lutz, a former girlfriend of Cable's. I'll let Davis take you through that, courtesy of Rob Calonge of examiner.com:
"Now, one of the things revealed by Ms. Lutz was too much for me. And that was whether, I don't know if it's true, we're going to find out but Tom was asked about it and refused to answer it.
"He brought her on trips on the road when the team's playing on the road, he's the head coach and this is the guy who's talking about focus, we've got a job to do, we've got a game to play, we've got to win, and there flying in friends so they can be with him the night before the game.
"All of this stuff goes a long way against my wishes, against my way of living, against my life and against the Raider way and I just wasn't going to take it anymore."
Davis withheld $120,000 from Cable's paychecks as Raiders head coach, due to the "strain on the organization" caused by lawsuits. Cable is suing Davis for the money.
Davis also talked about how he wasn't happy with Oakland's offensive output under Cable, and philosophical differences he had with Cable on run-blocking schemes.
Maybe Cable was a good head coach; maybe he wasn't. Maybe he was an upstanding, non-violent, law-abiding person; and maybe he wasn't. No matter where you stand on those questions, I don't see how Davis escapes culpability here.
He's the one who hired Cable. It's his job to look into the man's background (and if ESPN can do it, you'd think the Raiders would be able to do it), and decide if his football philosophies fit with those of the Oakland Raiders. Davis failed on both. I don't see any way around that.
Here are the two things I take away from Davis' press conference Tuesday: 1) Getting along with Al Davis continues to be the most crucial (and perhaps most difficult) part of being the Raiders head coach; and 2) Al Davis is getting really good at organizing and listing reasons why he fired a head coach.
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More on (or should I say moron) Davis' press conference...
Al Davis gives state of the Raiders
By JOSH DUBOW AP Sports
ALAMEDA, Calif. -- Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis rarely talks to the media anymore.
So when Davis got the chance at a news conference announcing the hiring of Hue Jackson as his new head coach on Tuesday, he took the opportunity to address a number of issues.
Davis spent a larger portion of a more than 100-minute news conference explaining why he fined former coach Tom Cable $120,000 in the final year of his contract. Davis says he withheld the money from Cable's last six checks because of the strain on the organization from lawsuits involving Cable assaulting a former assistant coach and a former girlfriend.
The suit by former assistant Randy Hanson was kicked out of court and sent to an NFL arbitrator. Davis said that Cable recently settled the suit with former girlfriend Marie Lutz.
"That lawsuit created a tremendous amount of work, stress and turmoil," Davis said. "Tom had been told earlier in his career that he could have been fired without pay for the wrath he brought on the Raider organization."
Cable's agent did not immediately reply to an e-mail seeking comment. Cable has filed a grievance with the NFL to recover the lost wages.
Davis said Cable lied to him when asked if there were any issues in his past that could affect the Raiders. He was also angered by one aspect of Lutz's lawsuit that said Cable brought her on road trips with the team, saying it goes against his way of living and the Raider way.
He said that even though Cable was accused of breaking Hanson's jaw in August 2009, accused of assaulting three women later that year and sued by Lutz last June, he kept him on to coach the 2010 season.
"We had been in turmoil for about a year or two after the initial stuff came out and so I just didn't think we needed another uproar at this particular time," Davis said. "Two roads. You can choose Road A or Road B, either way."
Cable has acknowledged striking his first wife, Sandy Cable, with an open hand. He said the altercation happened more than 20 years ago and was the only time he's ever touched a woman inappropriately. Because that happened before Cable joined the NFL, he was not punished by the league.
Davis said he still does not know what happened in the hotel room at training camp when Hanson had his jaw broken. Hanson accused Cable of throwing him against the wall, causing the left side of Hanson's face to strike a table, then hit Hanson while he was on the floor. Hanson was treated for a fractured jaw and broken teeth. Hanson said Cable was restrained by assistants John Marshall, Willie Brown and Lionel Washington.
Davis said he didn't want to get into the middle of the dispute.
"Can't get the story," Davis said. "You know, it's like Gitmo. Trying to find out, did they waterboard those guys or not? No, really. It's hard to believe. How many guys went in? Four guys went into the room with a guy, the guys comes out with a broken jaw and no one saw it."
On other topics in Davis' first news conference in more than 16 months:
- Davis took some blame for the Raiders struggles the past eight years when they have failed to post a winning record. "I have made mistakes. Yes, there's no question about it, and you got to have great players. But you also, sometimes, have the players and don't get it done. So, you're saying, should I take some of the blame? I certainly do."
- He said the team was hurt by the failures of former No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell, who was cut last May after being paid more than $39 million for three ineffective seasons. "We had a big investment in this guy. Basically, he's a good person but he's got personal problems, and I decided that it was time that we were not going to fight it anymore."
- He said he was not pleased with Cable's proclamation that "we're not losers anymore" after the Raiders won the season finale to finish 8-8. "If that's not being a loser in our world, I don't know what it is, come in .500. That's never been my goal."
- He explained why he still believes in receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, who caught just 37 passes in his first two seasons. "Explosion. He can catch, he's getting better and he's a good guy. He's going to be good."
- He said he wouldn't know whether Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha would be brought back after the final year of his contract voided, but hinted the Raiders would have cut him instead of picking up an option that was set to be worth at least $16.8 million. "Can that $17 million bring you two or three quality players to help you win?"
- He also said he was not surprised he won a grievance hearing against former coach Lane Kiffin, who was seeking more than $300,000, after being fired for cause in September 2008. "I beat him because he lied. He's a liar. He lied to you guys."
- He said the team needed a new stadium - preferably at the same site as the current home - and was hurt by low revenues. The Raiders sold out only one game this season but Davis hopes a new labor deal will help Oakland's cause. "We don't have the resources that other teams have, but, but, I think we've shown that we can compete. It's a question now of winning, and doing better than them. But it depends on what happens in the collective bargaining agreement."
- He would not give an opinion on a proposed 18-game season that commissioner Roger Goodell wants in the new collective bargaining agreement, but said the talk of increased injuries was overplayed. "There's no question that the ownership wants it, and Roger seems to have a way of getting things done if he wants it. So I'd rather not say what I think but I think the business of injury is overplayed."
- He said he wasn't worried about recent criticisms from Pro Bowl punter Shane Lechler, who was upset the team let Cable go, pointing out that Lechler talked about leaving as a free agent after the 2008 season. "Shane said publicly he wasn't coming back, he didn't like it here. A month later, he was coming back because I gave him the highest paid contract of a specialist in pro football. No, these things happen, that's a part of our lives, I read about marriage breakups, all those things."
Nice....
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