Hagar Predictably Runs His Boorish Yap In Revisionist History Memoir, 'Red'

[FORD]

"Hits" are overrated anyway. I mean, are there any REAL Van Halen fans out there who actually think "Jump" was a better song than "Unchained"?

[ELVIS]

So you've finally came out of the closet?

Has the Church and it's followers abandoned you?

No, I'm one of the minority straight guys...

[Nitro Express]

"Hits" are overrated anyway. I mean, are there any REAL Van Halen fans out there who actually think "Jump" was a better song than "Unchained"?

I never liked Jump. I love Unchained. I actually think Jump is one of Van Halen's worst song but that was their big Top 40 hit.

[Nitro Express]

Do you even attempt to look at what thread you are posting in anymore?

Nope. I just go on drunken rants.

[Nitro Express]

sammy can talk all he wants about eddie vanhalen and dave.

The truth is that sammy got lucky as hell to be where he is at today and he got there holding onto eddie vanhalens beltloop.
Eddie is a national treasure, Dave is a self made rock and roll God.

sammy is just an fat,ugly piece of shit. those are my old ladies words, not mine. she said he looks like a retard.

Ed is now considered an American icon by The Smithsonian. 30 years from now Ed will be on the list of guitar icons. Sammy will be long forgotten and the Cabo Wabo will be closed and gone.

[Terry]

terry, it would be my doobiest honor to purchase you an adult beverage of your choice someday

All I can say is should the lot of us here meet down the line for a few drinks...bring plenty of bail money.

[Halen High]

See, here's the thing: Eddie Van Halen is an alcoholic. Dave imho left the band because Eddie was an alcoholic. In all the time he was gone, Dave basically had statements about Eddie's attitude, like, "it is really dark up there on howdy doody mountain". He never said he hated Eddie as a person, or made fun of his humanity. He genuinely likes Eddie and has admiration for him as far as I can tell. He wrote a song about it "Damn Good". He constantly pushed the BAND Van Halen, even when not in the line up.

Ched Head on the other hand, does not say "I saw Eddie looking terrible, I asked if he would like to see my Doctor who I trust", instead he makes fun of him. He uses Van Halen for all the money girls and fame he can get, then goes back to being a solo artist. Eddie was right to tell him to go to hell, he only used Eddie for a ride; Dave always wanted to be in the Band. Spammy, as opposed to Dave, writes a song where he portrays Eddie as a monkey playing a guitar.

Between the two attitude types, I certainly know which one I would want to be in a band with:

Dave, somewhat patient and Zen, or The Well Fed Rocker, who doesn't even say thanks for the Cheetos.

The truth is in the telling: Spam brags about his ability to be a billionaire, Dave gets his EMT certificate and works as one. Dave gets his Helicopter License, Spam drinks Tequila.

Good riddence to bad rubbish.

Great post. Nailed it right on the head.

[Halen High]

Is it just me but....the older I get the more annoyed I am by this guy.

Seems he has a compulsive need to get his side of the story out every time he speaks.......has he done an interview [since joining Van Hagar] where he doesn't mention VH or Dave in a negative light.

The guy would be a B-list rock star at best had he not joined VH......he should be kissing their asses at every opportunity, like bassplayer usually does.

Would the guy ever have gotten in the Hall of Lame as a solo "artist"?

Sammy has always felt insecure about his place in VH's history. No more so than now as his worst nightmare has come true. His final tour with VH was a disaster, Dave returns for a critically acclaimed tour played to packed houses and now a rehabilitated EVH is recording a new VH album with Dave.

[Halen High]

I never liked Jump. I love Unchained. I actually think Jump is one of Van Halen's worst song but that was their big Top 40 hit.

Nothing wrong with Jump. Pop/hard rock at its best. A timeless melody, cool lyrics and a great video. Aspects which EVH, AVH and MA tried to replicate with Sammy to the point where they forgot what they were really about - and failed. The trick for CVH was to write great pop but not over do it.

[Cato]

Sammy Hagar is just an American local singer. He has no worldwide popularity.

period.

[ashstralia]

is it true you have undie vending machines?

[VanHalener]

I wonder who Sammy was fucking in the sex tent. Mike?

I failed to mention that not only does he travel with his own Mexican donkey, but Spammy is what we call around these parts a Gerbil Pusher who never leaves home without one.


There is a sign at the door to remind him about cuts and scratches

[ZahZoo]

Read the thread... Don't seem like Main material.

No big revalation that Ed was a fuckin mess during the porn/House of Petals era. Remeber the 2 Dorks radio guys that were callin him at 4am and the drunken bullshit Ed was spewing. Hagar comes along 6-8 years later and spews what most already knew... yawn. Ain't worth the anger to give a flyin fuck what that insecure bastard has to say...

Just thankful the Van Halen's got no use for the jackass...

[kwame k]

It dawned on me today when reading the Thread title.....

Sammy Hagar burns bridges in his uncensored memoir, "Red".

With the way Ed holds a grudge.......this book just guarantees that The Red Cocker will be dead by the time Ed comes around and makes him a brother again.

So I guess Spammy was useful after all.

[FORD]

I failed to mention that not only does he travel with his own Mexican donkey, but Spammy is what we call around these parts a Gerbil Pusher who never leaves home without one.


There is a sign at the door to remind him about cuts and scratches

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[Cato]

He has no worldwide popularity.

just like handegg

is it true you have undie vending machines?

if you mean soiled panties vending machines...we had some in Tokyo and Osaka. they were removed years ago.

[Antman]

The annoying thing, and the reason he is writing doing the book, is whatever fucking bullshit he tells the ghost writer people will accept and will become part of the intro to everything ever written about him by the 99% of music journalists who are lazy bastards these days. I've lost count of the number of lies that have come out of his dribbling fat mouth over the years.
BOOM! Line 1.

How did he get sacked in 1996 and then not see Ed for 10 years before their 2003 tour?


We should have a competition here when this shit comes out. Hagar Lies Bingo, the person who finds the most documented lies and falsehoods wins a prize. I guarantee the winning score will be at least 3 figures...

We could make itinto a drinking game. The first person not dead from alcohol poisoning by page 10 wins.

[VAiN]

We could make itinto a drinking game. The first person not dead from alcohol poisoning by page 10 wins.

Thanks! I needed that today...

[Diamondjimi]

"Hits" are overrated anyway. I mean, are there any REAL Van Halen fans out there who actually think "Jump" was a better song than "Unchained"?

Not this guy. When I first heard Jump on the radio (before the albums release) I thought they'd sold out...

[chefcraig]

"Hits" are overrated anyway. I mean, are there any REAL Van Halen fans out there who actually think "Jump" was a better song than "Unchained"?

No comparison, but at the time, I thought it was very cool to hear a Van Halen tune (let alone a Van Halen tune introduced by Dave Roth himself) the first time it was played on our local top 40 station. I was at work, and it was the only station the boss would allow to be broadcast. So after hearing the same bland Phil Collins tunes over and over all day, even if it was equally bland, "Jump" tended to stick out.

[Diamondjimi]

. So after hearing the same bland Phil Collins tunes over and over all day, even if it was equally bland, "Jump" tended to stick out.

Jump SCREAMS put next to any Phil Collins song....

[VanHalener]

Jump SCREAMS put next to any Phil Collins song....

It screams, regardless.

That motherfucker is tearing up my garage in

3

2

1

[VanHalener]

In any other neighborhood...

The cops would be on their way.

You think Jump was played loud...

Let me yell ya

Jamie is about to cry over here.

~Volume~

[VanHalener]

The last time I was at the hospital I heard a lady say Spamspectrometer.

I was in the cancer wing.

Beware of Bette Midler

[Hardrock69]

LMAO!

Terry, you hit the nail on the head about Spamulus Flatulus.

Simple because he is not considered an icon by anyone, much less a 'legend', he has to try to blow himself up to something more than he is, just by opening his fat mouth, which amazingly enough is not stuffed with cheezeburgers, and talking smack.

I mean, don't get me wrong, Spamulus at least has made a career out of being a mediocre talent, who happened to be at the right Maserati repair shop at the right time.
He was at Monterey, and at least has got to earn a good living at playing music. Something I have not been able to do.

But that does not make him worth anything to me or anyone else with half a brain, and a minimal amount of musical taste.

[ELVIS]

Jump SCREAMS put next to any Phil Collins song....

That's bullshit...

[Hardrock69]

Well, let's put that in perspective. Perhaps the song is a piece of pop mung. But look at who was playing Jump?

Pretty much anything is heavier than Phill Collins.

[Diamondjimi]

Well, let's put that in perspective. Perhaps the song is a piece of pop mung. But look at who was playing Jump?

Pretty much anything is heavier than Phill Collins.

Apparently Su su sudio rocks harder than Jump, according to Elvis...

[Diamondjimi]

Jump SCREAMS put next to any Phil Collins song....

That's bullshit...

Feel free to elaborate Mr.Blurt'nbail...

[ELVIS]

Land Of Confusion puts Jump to shame...

[chefcraig]

Land Of Confusion puts Jump to shame...

But that tune wasn't being played on the top 40 station I was referring to, the dreary "Against All Odds" was (for some reason, I thought "Separate Lives" was from that time as well, but it was a while later), along with other cringe-worthy dreck like "I Just Called To Say I Love You" by Stevie Wonder and those simultaneously wimpy/creepy ballads by Chicago or Lionel Richie.

[Dave's Bitch]

Even though it is from sammy,I love it when people slam Ed,He deserves it.What i would really love to see is someone going off about alex,that guy is the most arrogant prick

[Diamondjimi]

Land Of Confusion puts Jump to shame...

That's a Genesis song there, guy.

Ed's solo in Jump trumps any pop tune from the era...

[ThrillsNSpills]

Fair Warning's HAD to sell more than 2 mill. That's an old figure.
It's one of the top 5 guitar albums of all time.

[hambon4lif]

What i would really love to see is someone going off about alex,that guy is the most arrogant prick

I could go off on a full-fledged rant about what a shitbag of a human being I think Alex is, but it's a bandwidth issue.

It starts with the speculation of why the band broke up in the first place.....

then it goes on to Ray Daniels, and the part Alex played in that......

.....then it goes on to a point that fans of the band should really stop to think about.
What kind of a human being would let their little brother get himself in such a fucked-up condition?
Nevermind the fact that he's your meal ticket, but he's your goddamned brother!!!

As much as people burn on Ed for his horrendous people skills, Al should be ashamed of himself for allowing his own sibling hit the skids so fucking hard.

No wonder Ed puts his arm around a different singer every other week and call him his "burrrrtherr". The fact that his own "burrrtherr" is a nutless neckbrace motherfucker could possibly have something to do with that.


[RANT]

[chefcraig]

I could go off on a full-fledged rant about what a shitbag of a human being I think Alex is, but it's a bandwidth issue...

The fact that the dork now goes around as an ordained minister only proves that the last thing a scoundrel clings to isn't patriotism, it's religion.

[kwame k]

Fair Warning's HAD to sell more than 2 mill. That's an old figure.
It's one of the top 5 guitar albums of all time.

That's just it......where are the current sale figures?

If the RIAA doesn't have current sales figures, who does?

[Kristy]

Fair Warning's HAD to sell more than 2 mill. That's an old figure.
It's one of the top 5 guitar albums of all time.

It's also one of the most underrated in terms of production. Why Dave & Co. never made a record that sounded close to Fair Warning is beyond me. 1984 has its moments but never measured up.

[hambon4lif]

Bottom line is this....

One singer is out there making money by selling a book that exploits how fucked up Ed was.

Another singer cared enough about Ed to pick him up off the ground and got his shit back together.

....so I don't think anyone needs to wonder who THE REAL LEAD SINGER OF VAN HALEN is!
Not anymore!

ROTH'N'ROLL MOTHERFUCKERS!!!


End of story.

[hideyoursheep]

I could care less about how many top 40's the second generation of VH had over the original. It was never about hit songs-it was, for those of us lucky enough, about literally witnessing rock history as it happend every time VH released an album. The same can NOT be said of anything Hagar was ever associated with in his lifetime.

What's funny is that Sam said he hadn't seen Ed in 10 years, Ed looked like hell and was in a bad place during that time period, and his fat ass went on tour with VH anyway.
Verrrry shady.