Pickup mods: Magnet-Swaps and the "Half-Air" mod demystified

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  • jhale667
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 20929

    Pickup mods: Magnet-Swaps and the "Half-Air" mod demystified

    Another cool dude and source of info for all things guitar is @LonePhantom out of Australia. He has tons of DIY resource info up on his site from repairing cracked necks to electronic modes, and product reviews. Here's a very cool video tutorial he did on how to swap a pickup magnet on a humbucker (looks so much easier once you actually SEE someone else do it), so I asked if he'd mind if I reposted it here. The test subject is a PAF Pro in an Ibanez, originally A5, then he tried a ceramic and wasn't into it, finally decided on an A8.



    Here's the original blog with the written instructions, too:




    Also of note is the Dimarzio "Half-Air" mod (by which something non-conductive is placed between the magnet and the polepieces, resulting in a more "open" sounding pickup. Good stuff!

    Modifying pickups – the half-air mod



    After installing my DiMarzio Tone Zone in to my Ibanez 20th Ann RG550RFR, I had been reading about the “half-air” mod, which quite a few people have performed on their Tone Zones. I was curious about it as I was wanting to find a way to get rid of some of the boomy low-end that the Tone Zone produces, and thought I might try the mod just in case I had no luck sorting it out by adjusting the pickup heights, etc.

    I thought that before I pulled apart the Tone Zone that I might try it on a cheaper pickup in a guitar I don’t use so much. I have a Saga PRS-style kit guitar that I put together several years ago, which I had installed Mighty Mite Motherbuckers in to.

    I have always found that this guitar, which has a very dark and prominent low-end tone sounded way too thick with the Motherbuckers in. The Motherbuckers are also extremely high-output pickups. I installed a ceramic pickup, as per the instructions in one of my previous posts on magnet changes in pickups. This opened up my pickup a little, and tamed the wild output somewhat, but it was still a little too thick, especially while picking on the low E string.

    The “half-air” mod involves removing the bar around the screw pole-pieces in a humbucker, and sticking the magnet directly to the screws themselves, eliminating the contact the magnet makes with the lugs on the other coil.

    This idea is based on the “Air” range of DiMarzio pickups, where the magnet does not touch any of the pole-pieces. this results in an open sounding pickup with increased sustain. The “half-air” mod lowers the pickup output, and opens up the tone a bit, eliminating some of the lows, and increasing some of the highs.

    So how do we do this:

    As always, take particular care when working with the insides of pickups. The wires are extremely thin, and if you break any you may be in for a world of pain to fix it!
    Step 1:

    The first thing you need to do is get your pickup out of the guitar. Get the strings out of the way. This guitar has a tune-o-matic bridge and tail piece, so I de-tuned the strings, and unscrewed the tail piece, lifting all of the strings out of the way at once.


    Step 1:

    The first thing you need to do is get your pickup out of the guitar. Get the strings out of the way. This guitar has a tune-o-matic bridge and tail piece, so I de-tuned the strings, and unscrewed the tail piece, lifting all of the strings out of the way at once.



    Step 2:

    Remove the pickup ring or pickguard so you can get to the pickup.


    Don't lose your screws!

    Step 3:

    You don’t want to loose your screws and springs. I use a spare pickup magnet. They are not going to get lost when they are stuck to this.



    Step 4:

    Remove the pickup from the pickup ring or pickguard. You need to do this so you can remove the pickup’s base-plate.


    Step 5:

    Remove the pickup base-plate. There are 4 screws to remove. Carefully loosen the pickup tape around it with a stanley knife or small flat-head screwdriver so you can lift it right off the pickup bobbins. Remove the magnet from the pickup. Use a flat-head screwdriver to carefully lift it up. Take note of it’s orientation so you don’t make the pickup out of phase. I labelled it with some masking tape as you can see.



    Step 6:
    Carefully remove the metal bar from the pole-pieces. I used a flat-head screwdriver to pry it up from the bobbins.





    Step 7:
    Put the magnet back in, noting orientation, and push it up evenly against the screws.



    Step 8:
    Put something non-ferrous in-between the magnet and the slugs. I used a thin sliver of rubber sheeting that I had available to me. This is to ensure that the magnet stays “aired”.

    Once this is done reverse steps 5 to 1, and tune your guitar back up. Plug in and find out what your newly modified pickup sounds like.

    I found that it tamed my Motherbucker a good amount. That was fine though, as I had plenty of space to increase the pickup height to get it really driving the amp again.

    The tone is definitely more “open” now and less a wall of sound, with the lows not so powerful, and a nice amount of highs added back to the sound. I am quite happy with how it turned out, and will definitely be leaving the pickup in this state.



    I’m still not sure if I’ll be performing this mod to the Tone Zone just yet, as I seem to have set it up just right for my ears. The mod is definitely worth trying though, not just to a Tone Zone, but to any other pickup that you might want to experiment with.


    Originally posted by conmee
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    Originally posted by Isaac R.
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    Originally posted by eddie78
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  • jhale667
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 20929

    #2
    Hmmm....lots of views, no comments...BUT there's a bright spot, turns out!

    Well, this is going to come in handy for me, at least since I just found out I won (!) a set of humbuckers from Porter Pickups in their July giveaway...had a choice of anything in their line, so I chose the "Clear" humbucker set...got to specify the output, even - so I went for a medium/almost vintage output for the bridge position @ 9k and asked them if they thought 8 or 7.5 would match better in the neck...they come stock with Ceramic magnets, but if I decide I'm not completely knocked out with that (kinda leaning towards Alnico these days) I still have that stack of A8s in the parts stash...!




    Originally posted by conmee
    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

    That is all.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


    Originally posted by Isaac R.
    Then it's really true??:eek:

    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
    Originally posted by eddie78
    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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    • VAiN
      Use my hand, I won't look
      ROCKSTAR

      • Nov 2006
      • 5056

      #3
      Very cool stuff, but waaaay beyond my skillset. I'm not comfortable working on my guitars.. I do have an old Kramer that's all apart, would make a good learner guitar.. hmmm....
      Originally posted by wiseguy
      That shit will welcome you in the morning and pour the milk in your count chocula for ya.

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      • jhale667
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 20929

        #4
        You can rebuild it...make it BETTER than it was...you have the technology!

        Originally posted by VAiN
        Very cool stuff, but waaaay beyond my skillset. I'm not comfortable working on my guitars.. I do have an old Kramer that's all apart, would make a good learner guitar.. hmmm....
        Gotta start somewhere, right?

        I just became obsessed with Ed's DIY guitars as a kid, and since I lived in a small town, it made more sense to learn to do whatever I could myself after I'd successfully built my first mutt Strat. That and there was only one really knowledgeable luthier in town who kind of took me under his wing once he heard me play and saw I picked up the tech shite quickly...he was like "Let me show you how to do this so you don't have to pay anyone to do it ever again. I'm not stingy with my knowledge." Totally cool guy.


        The only thing I'm really hesitant to delve into is fretwork, mostly because the necessary tools aren't cheap and the saying goes you have to screw up a few necks before you get it right.. I've yet to mess with pickup magnets, but from all the research I've done the only way you can screw up is if you put the new mag in w/the wrong polarity (easily fixed) or if you bust a coil wire - in which case you're kinda screwed, but I got a cheap Duncan off Ebay to practice on. Not sure how interested I am in trying the "air" mod, but definitely found it interesting!
        Originally posted by conmee
        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

        That is all.

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        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


        Originally posted by Isaac R.
        Then it's really true??:eek:

        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
        Originally posted by eddie78
        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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        • indeedido
          Veteran
          • Feb 2004
          • 2293

          #5
          I've been thinking of tinkering with magnet swaps. Good notes!
          This space for rent.

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          • Hardrock69
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Feb 2005
            • 21834

            #6
            I will always entrust fret jobs to the professionals.

            But, when it comes to other stuff like adjusting the truss rod, wiring the guitar myself, installing pickups, and creating my own customized pickguards, I do all that stuff myself.

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32794

              #7
              Never pry the covers off a old P-90. I found out the hard way what happens. The whole damn bobbin unwinds and all you have left is one big fucking unfixable mess.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • jhale667
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 20929

                #8
                OK, after a few emails back and forth with Brian at Porter Pickups, decided on the "Classic" (A5) neck pickup to pair with the "Clear" (ceramic) in the bridge. F-spaced, 4-conductor wiring, zebra coils. They'll start winding them sometime next week. It was really cool to be able to custom-spec a set of pickups....STOKED!


                Originally posted by conmee
                If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                That is all.

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                Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                Originally posted by Isaac R.
                Then it's really true??:eek:

                The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                Originally posted by eddie78
                I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                • jhale667
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 20929

                  #9
                  OK, based on the soundclips I think I'm going to like the choices I made with the Porters sans mag swaps on the neck at least...



                  Can't really tell about the bridge yet since the amp in the clip used sounds nothing like my Boogie...the basic tone in that neck clip I can get with the clean channel all day long, but my overdrive sounds are a bit more aggressive... I wanna see how the lower output pickup reacts with it...

                  Originally posted by conmee
                  If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                  That is all.

                  Icon.
                  Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                  I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                  Originally posted by Isaac R.
                  Then it's really true??:eek:

                  The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                  OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                  Originally posted by eddie78
                  I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                  • Diamondjimi
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • May 2004
                    • 12086

                    #10
                    The PU's in the samples sound like single coils.
                    Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                    • jhale667
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 20929

                      #11
                      Yeah, think the amp was really weak on the bridge clip, but that's kinda what I dig aboot the neck pickup clip, it's like a fat single-sound... wondering how the "Clear" model will compare to, say a Duncan '59B... I have a feeling I might be trying an A8 in the bridge pu down the line... Still dying to try the Custom 8 too.
                      Originally posted by conmee
                      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                      That is all.

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                      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                      Originally posted by Isaac R.
                      Then it's really true??:eek:

                      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                      Originally posted by eddie78
                      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                      • ashstralia
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6555

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jhale667
                        or if you bust a coil wire - in which case you're kinda screwed
                        not necessarily, j; i once broke a tele neck p/up when i took the cover off it. so i got a magnifying glass, a strong cup of coffee, and began gently unwinding. after a couple of hours, i had a big lump of copper linguine and a fixed pickup. when i put it back in another guitar, it had a toppier airier sound which i love. 14 years later it still works a treat! diy rules!!! btw, i probably know that lone phantom dude; i worked down there in canberra for years. cheers

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                        • jhale667
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 20929

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ashstralia
                          not necessarily, j; i once broke a tele neck p/up when i took the cover off it. so i got a magnifying glass, a strong cup of coffee, and began gently unwinding. after a couple of hours, i had a big lump of copper linguine and a fixed pickup. when i put it back in another guitar, it had a toppier airier sound which i love. 14 years later it still works a treat! diy rules!!! btw, i probably know that lone phantom dude; i worked down there in canberra for years. cheers
                          Interesting...you didn't notice a significant drop in output afterwards?
                          Originally posted by conmee
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                          That is all.

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                          Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                          I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                          Originally posted by Isaac R.
                          Then it's really true??:eek:

                          The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                          OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                          Originally posted by eddie78
                          I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                          • ashstralia
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6555

                            #14
                            there was definitely a drop, i wouldn't call it significant, no. but the tone was better to these ears

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                            • jhale667
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 20929

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ashstralia
                              there was definitely a drop, i wouldn't call it significant, no. but the tone was better to these ears
                              File that under #winning, then!
                              Originally posted by conmee
                              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                              That is all.

                              Icon.
                              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                              Originally posted by Isaac R.
                              Then it's really true??:eek:

                              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                              Originally posted by eddie78
                              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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