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    Rick Perry - Sinister?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/us.../07prayer.html



    HOUSTON — Standing on a stage surrounded by thousands of fellow Christians on Saturday morning, Gov. Rick Perry of Texas called on Jesus to bless and guide the nation’s military and political leaders and “those who cannot see the light in the midst of all the darkness.”


    “Lord, you are the source of every good thing,” Mr. Perry said, as he bowed his head, closed his eyes and leaned into a microphone at Reliant Stadium here. “You are our only hope, and we stand before you today in awe of your power and in gratitude for your blessings, and humility for our sins. Father, our heart breaks for America. We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see anger in the halls of government, and as a nation we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us, and for that we cry out for your forgiveness.”

    In a 13-minute address, Mr. Perry read several passages from the Bible during a prayer rally he sponsored. Thousands of people stood or kneeled in the aisles or on the concrete floor in front of the stage, some wiping away tears and some shouting, “Amen!”

    The prayer rally was seen as one of the biggest tests of Mr. Perry’s political career, coming as he nears a decision on whether to seek the Republican nomination for president.

    Mr. Perry, a lifelong Methodist who regularly attends an evangelical megachurch near his home in West Austin, has been speaking and preaching in sanctuaries throughout Texas since he was state agricultural commissioner in the 1990s. Organizers for the event, called The Response: A Call to Prayer for a Nation in Crisis, estimated that more than 30,000 people were at Reliant Stadium when Mr. Perry spoke. The seating capacity is 71,500, and tens of thousands of seats in the upper decks were empty.

    “I wish you could see what I see here,” announced Luis Cataldo, a leader of the International House of Prayer, a Christian ministry in Kansas City, Mo., as the event began at 10 a.m. “This is the body of Christ.”

    He said that there would be no long speeches, no banners, no signs. “You didn’t come here to listen to people preach,” he said. “You came to pray, and Jesus wants to hear your voice.”

    While those on the stage avoided making overt political statements or expressions of political support for Mr. Perry, many in the audience made it clear in interviews that they would vote for the governor should he enter the presidential race.

    Liz Lara, 62, who lives in La Vernia, Tex., a city of 1,200 outside San Antonio, drove about 200 miles to Houston with her daughter and two grandchildren to attend the rally. She said the family came to support Mr. Perry and pray for God’s help in solving the nation’s problems.

    “I believe that God has prepared Rick Perry for such a time as this,” she said. “I believe he will be our next president.”

    At one point, Mr. Perry asked those in the audience to pray for the president. “Father, we pray for our president, that you impart your wisdom upon him, that you would guard his family,” he said.

    Mr. Perry addressed the crowd nine days after a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit filed against him by a national group of atheists arguing that his participation in the rally in his official capacity as governor violated the First Amendment’s requirement of separation of church and state.

    Members and supporters of that group, the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation, protested outside. They waved picket signs that read “In reason we trust” and played marching-band-style music.

    The atheists were among dozens of people protesting outside the stadium, including gay activists who criticized Mr. Perry for supporting the American Family Association, which organized and financed the rally. The association is a conservative evangelical group based in Mississippi that is listed as an antigay hate group by the nonprofit Southern Poverty Law Center.

    A number of Texas political and religious leaders were noticeably absent.Mr. Perry’s two Austin pastors — one from Tarrytown United Methodist Church, where he has been a longtime member, and the other from Lake Hills Church, an evangelical church that he has been visiting more regularly — were not at the rally. Neither was the leader of Houston’s biggest congregation, Pastor Joel Osteen of Lakewood Church, who was holding his own worship service in Chicago on Saturday.

    Mr. Perry had invited his fellow governors to join him, but only Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas, a Republican, attended. Gov. Rick Scott of Florida made a video statement that was played in the stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    At one point, Mr. Perry asked those in the audience to pray for the president. “Father, we pray for our president, that you impart your wisdom upon him, that you would guard his family,” he said.
    What's that all about? Is he trying to plant a seed there?

    I do worry about the US.

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    God will not be mocked by sleazy Texas politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    What's that all about? Is he trying to plant a seed there?

    I do worry about the US.
    I think you're over-reading that. Wishing health and safety on families is a fairly standard part of prayer.

    The idea of harnessing prayer and politics may be faintly ridiculous, but I don't find it sinister.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    What's that all about? Is he trying to plant a seed there?

    I do worry about the US.
    Don't worry brother, we're still doing fine...
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    Gott Mit Uns (God is with us). The Wehrmacht had that on their belt buckles since World War I.

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    He was the BCE's hand picked replacement for Chimpy as Texas governor. That was all I needed to know about him to know which team he played for.

    And it ain't JC's!
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    Of course, in all fairness, at least Hitler could fill the fucking arena.


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    Actual picture from Perryprayapalooza.....



    Remind you of anything.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Remind you of anything.......
    the sexy milf is remembering her groupie days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Actual picture from Perryprayapalooza.....



    Remind you of anything.......
    I looked at the empty seats and thought the VanSam tour of '04.
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    As Christians the Bible shows clear ways as to fit into the order of things.

    The Bible teaches that the church and state are separate institutions, ordain of God, each having a specific responsibility:

    1. Rulers are appointed by God. (Daniel 2:21; 4:17, 25, 32; 5:21)

    2. Rulers are the ministers or servants (not sons) of God. (Romans 13:1, 2, 4)

    3. They are to suppress the evil and protect the good (Romans 13:3), by executing wrath upon the evildoer (Genesis 9:5, 6; Romans 13:4).

    4. The church is the representative body of Jesus Christ upon Earth (Matthew 16:18, 19), to serve as His ambassadors (the highest position one may obtain as a representative of his King), calling men to be reconciled to Him (Luke 2:14; 2 Corinthians 5:20).

    5. As strangers and pilgrims Christians are to: honor rulers (Romans 13:7; 1 Peter 2:17); pray for them ( 1 Timothy 2: 1-3 ); pay taxes and other dues they levy (Romans13:6, 7); be subject to the for conscience sake (Romans 13:1, 5; Titus 3:1); remembering that Christians first allegiance is to God (Acts 4:19; 5:29).

    6. Ambassadors, strangers, and pligrims have no right to engage in the political activities of the country in which they live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by standin View Post
    As Christians the Bible shows clear ways as to fit into the order of things.

    The Bible teaches that the church and state are separate institutions, ordain of God, each having a specific responsibility:

    1. Rulers are appointed by God. (Daniel 2:21; 4:17, 25, 32; 5:21)
    I'm very disappointed in some of his appointments.

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    Faintly???

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    Nah.

    He's too stoopid to be sinister.

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    It's possible he could be the next president and he doesn't 'believe' in evolution or climate change and his answer to the economic problems is more praying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's possible he could be the next president and he doesn't 'believe' in evolution or climate change and his answer to the economic problems is more praying...
    Any worse than George W?

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Any worse than George W?
    Supposedly he makes W look like a rocket scientist. So, yes - imagine a MORE dim-witted W in office. If that happens, we're doomed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Supposedly he makes W look like a rocket scientist. So, yes - imagine a MORE dim-witted W in office. If that happens, we're doomed.
    That's frightening idea. The sort of person who makes you feel like you're losing brain cells as you're talking to them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    That's frightening idea. The sort of person who makes you feel like you're losing brain cells as you're talking to them....
    What kills me is these assbags have no clue or understanding of US history and what this country was founded on - and they actually state openly their goal is to turn the US into a "Christian nation based on biblical law" when that's one of the things the founding fathers (whom they have no problem invoking like they're the 12 apostles or some shit) were trying to AVOID...it's maddening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's possible he could be the next president and he doesn't 'believe' in evolution or climate change and his answer to the economic problems is more praying...
    I wouldn't want him praying for our economy. Back in April of this year, he called for Texans to pray for rain. Well, only 15-20% of the state was in exceptional drought then, and now it is more like 75-80% exceptional after all of the praying! So, by that logic, I figure we wouldn't have an economy left by the time he got through praying for it to get better. Look, that big prayer meeting down in Houston last weekend was nothing more than a political stunt by Perry to capture the support of the religious right wingnut Repukes for a future Presidential run, nothing more. We've had this jackass in office for the last 10 years and we can't get rid of him. There are too many stupid rednecks that keep voting for this fucker every election. All we need is another religious fucknut like Dumbya in office waging more wars because "gawd told him to".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Texan View Post
    I wouldn't want him praying for our economy. Back in April of this year, he called for Texans to pray for rain. Well, only 15-20% of the state was in exceptional drought then, and now it is more like 75-80% exceptional after all of the praying! So, by that logic, I figure we wouldn't have an economy left by the time he got through praying for it to get better. Look, that big prayer meeting down in Houston last weekend was nothing more than a political stunt by Perry to capture the support of the religious right wingnut Repukes for a future Presidential run, nothing more. We've had this jackass in office for the last 10 years and we can't get rid of him. There are too many stupid rednecks that keep voting for this fucker every election. All we need is another religious fucknut like Dumbya in office waging more wars because "gawd told him to".
    Lets face it if prayer worked the way Perry says it does then the world would be run by Muslim clerics by now. A billion x 5 a day is a lot of praying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Lets face it if prayer worked the way Perry says it does then the world would be run by Muslim clerics by now. A billion x 5 a day is a lot of praying.
    That's a lot of catching up to do!








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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Texan View Post
    I wouldn't want him praying for our economy. Back in April of this year, he called for Texans to pray for rain. Well, only 15-20% of the state was in exceptional drought then, and now it is more like 75-80% exceptional after all of the praying! So, by that logic, I figure we wouldn't have an economy left by the time he got through praying for it to get better. Look, that big prayer meeting down in Houston last weekend was nothing more than a political stunt by Perry to capture the support of the religious right wingnut Repukes for a future Presidential run, nothing more. We've had this jackass in office for the last 10 years and we can't get rid of him. There are too many stupid rednecks that keep voting for this fucker every election. All we need is another religious fucknut like Dumbya in office waging more wars because "gawd told him to".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of...State_of_Texas

    I REALLY don't want this man praying for our country!

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    That signature does not fill you will any optimism about his mental powers.

    What's with the capital letters in the middle of Perry? How can the governor of Texas not know the difference between r and R or is this a cultural thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post


    That signature does not fill you will any optimism about his mental powers.

    What's with the capital letters in the middle of Perry? How can the governor of Texas not know the difference between r and R or is this a cultural thing?
    Maybe it's a subliminal thing to convince Repukes that he has the endorsement of their REAL Messiah, Ronald Reagan.

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    Fuck it. Let's make Steve Perry president. He can sing "Don't Stop Believing" to us and tell us there is still hope left in the world.

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    Yeah like Tony Soprano...

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    Yes I think he is a little bit.

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    Well, apparently there are homophobes in the Scottish Parliament now, so maybe we shouldn't get too high on our horses....

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Well, apparently there are homophobes in the Scottish Parliament now, so maybe we shouldn't get too high on our horses....
    Green party leader Patrick Harvie has condemned the Scottish Parliament for letting the leader of a 'homophobic' academic institution to address MSPs.

    Cecil Samuelson, president of US-based Brigham Young University - which is owned and run by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - was asked to deliver the Time For Reflection speech before Holyrood on Wednesday.

    Mr Harvie said: "Mr Samuelson should never have been invited to address the Scottish Parliament, given he leads an institutionally homophobic academic institution.


    "Contrary to the position he holds, there is nothing dishonourable about loving another man or another woman, and the idea that a university might expel students for feeling otherwise is utterly outdated and absurd.

    "Parliament is an institution for the whole of Scotland, and this platform must never again be given to someone with this kind of attitude to Scotland's gays and lesbians."

    The university's honor code, published on its website, states: "One's stated same-gender attraction is not an honor code issue. However, the honor code requires all members of the university community to manifest a strict commitment to the law of chastity.

    "Homosexual behaviour is inappropriate and violates the honor code. Homosexual behaviour includes not only sexual relations between members of the same sex but all forms of physical intimacy that give expression to homosexual feelings."

    A Scottish Parliament spokeswoman said: "A wide range of faith and non-faith speakers have taken part in Time For Reflection, and every speaker is issued with guidance which makes clear all contributions in the chamber must be consistent with the principle of equal opportunities for all and should not include remarks or comments which are discriminatory."
    I never knew they even had a 'Time for reflection' speech.

    What a crock of shit!

    All the main religions are homophobic just to different degrees. Probably added as a compromise when someone asked what they should do in place of the Christian prayers at the start of the UK parliament.

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    In all fairness to W and Perry and Bachmann and Palin and any of the other dingbats, if they want to run for President, sure, knock yourself out... It's a free country, it's a democracy, go right ahead....

    It's the stupid fucks that would VOTE for these idiots that I have the problem with.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    In all fairness to W and Perry and Bachmann and Palin and any of the other dingbats, if they want to run for President, sure, knock yourself out... It's a free country, it's a democracy, go right ahead....

    It's the stupid fucks that would VOTE for these idiots that I have the problem with.....
    True dat...it's one thing, the candidates being so stupid they don't understand the reason and NEED for separation of church and state (pretty much immediately disqualifies them as candidates IMO), but further anyone stupid enough to vote for someone that wants to blur that line shouldn't be allowed to vote. It's the basic foundation of this country, and if you don't even get that...

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    I don't think a lot of these so called religious people are very religious at all. They are more of what I would call opportunists. Do you honestly think Sarah Palin is religious? These politicians and politician wannabes think playing the role of being religious will help them get elected. The problem is if you go too overboard on it you may alienate the swing vote that decides presidential elections.

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    I believe I've never voted for the fucker in any election, even back in my hardcore neocon Repuke days of the early 2000's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    In all fairness to W and Perry and Bachmann and Palin and any of the other dingbats, if they want to run for President, sure, knock yourself out... It's a free country, it's a democracy, go right ahead....

    It's the stupid fucks that would VOTE for these idiots that I have the problem with.....
    Or the Supreme Court Justices who hand them an election they didnt win...........

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    The Rick Perry Thread

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    Governor Perry's biggest problem is Rick Perry

    EASTON, Md., August 18, 2011 — From Republicans to the media, everyone seems to be in a swoon now that Governor Rick Perry has declared his candidacy for President.

    They just can’t get enough of the Texas governor.

    Republicans think he just might be the Third Way: not Bachmann, not Romney, an alternative with all their strengths and none of their faults. They see him as a candidate who can unite Bachmann's and Romney's bases, appealing to all and offending none.

    The media are excited for new, chili-hot copy, and Perry looks good, and not just on paper. He cuts a fine figure in the flesh.

    Perry has better hair than Mitt Romney, he sports custom-made cowboy boots emblazoned with the 1842 Texas motto Come and Take It (a slogan that summarizes the spirit of Texan defiance), he can drop to his knees to pray for the country in a nanosecond, he is the longest serving governor of the second largest (both in area and population) U.S state, and he is the father of the Texas Miracle, the more than 1 million jobs created in Texas since 2000, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Or as like the Governor himself likes to brag: “Since June of 2009,Texas is home to 40 percent of all the jobs added in the United States.”

    So what’s not to love about Perry? He sounds like Perry the Perfect.

    His sumptuous mansion, the one he chose to live in while the Governor’s house is repaired and renovated, also sounds perfect. Do you want to see taxpayers seethe? Then ask Texans about the rental bill they’ve been footing for the past four years. Rick Perry and his family currently reside in a $1 million plus residence with all expenses paid, including new window treatments by Neiman Marcus, all financed by Texans to the tune of $700,000. So far.

    Want to take a tour of the house? Be my guest. Just don’t use the guest towels, if you please.

    Now if you are ready to take a closer look at Perry’s Texas record, you will see something very different from Perfect Perry, something scary.

    Here are five reasons why Governor Perry is a problem for the GOP and bad for America. There are many more, but let’s start with these five.

    1. Perry’s job creation record is less than it seems:

    * Most of the jobs created in Texas have been in the natural gas and oil industries; as energy prices rise, those jobs increase, soaring by 16.8% over the last year;

    * fewer state regulations attract businesses to Texas that don’t like following the usual rules of health and safety;

    * nearly 10% of Texas’ hourly laborers earn less than the $7.25 an hour minimum wage, sharing that bottom of the barrel distinction with Mississippi;

    * Perry just slashed the state budget, which will kill 100,000 jobs. Most of those fired will be public sector workers, such as teachers;

    *Perry’s braggadocio aside, Texas’ unemployment rate is 8.2%, lower than in many states, but higher than in 25 others, including liberal Massachusetts and New York (CNN Money).

    2. The Texas economy is rocky.

    Governor Perry signed a budget this year that is balanced only through the use of accounting gimmicks, such as delaying payment on bills coming due in 2013. Perhaps he believes he will be in the White House by then.

    Over the last decade Perry doubled the state's debt, from $12.7 billion in 2001 to $34.08 billion in 2009. He did this by refusing to raise any state taxes, at the same time pruning property and business taxes and handing out tax breaks and exemptions.

    He claims that he preserved the Rainy Day Fund, but angry fellow Republicans say that’s untrue and have demanded that he drop the claim. (AP report)

    3. Texas is the country’s biggest polluter.

    Just look at what lax or nearly nonexistent regulations can do to a state. They've made Houston the smog capital of the nation, according to the Houston mayor’s report. The Texas Legislative Study Group on the State of Our State wrote in its damning report that Texas has the rare distinction of being:

    1st in amount of carbon dioxide released into the air;

    1st in amount of volatile organic compounds released into air;

    1st in amount of toxic chemicals released into water;

    1stin amount of recognized cancer-causing carcinogens released into air;

    1st in amount of hazardous waste generated;

    1st in amount of toxic chemicals released into the air.

    Perry’s solution to the problem is to tell the EPA, “Don’t mess with Texas.”

    In February, 2010, Governor Perry sued the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in federal court for its recent finding that CO2 is a pollutant. EPA’s national campaign to tighten pollution regulations led to this pushback from Texas, not surprising since the state is home to huge petrochemical corporations, major producers of industrial pollutants and carbon dioxide.

    4. Just as you would expect, then, Texas has an abysmal health record, ranking at 40th out of the 50 states.

    Texas is last in:

    * percent of non-elderly women with health insurance;

    * percent of pregnant women getting prenatal care in the first trimester;

    * workers’ compensation coverage;

    * per capita spending on mental health.

    Nearly 26% of Texas' children live in poverty.

    Texas is on the brink, thanks to Republican misrule, including the misrule of that other infamous Texan, George W. Bush. The policies of its current governor continue to push it towards the edge.

    Or as the Texas Legislative study put it:

    “You get what you pay for. In Texas, we do not get much because we do not pay for much. Compared to other states, Texas ranks near the bottom in spending for education, health care, environmental protection, workforce development, public safety, and other services and protections. Our failure to invest in ourselves puts our children at risk and our future in jeopardy.” (Texas on the Brink)

    5. Perry looks to God to step in and solve Texas’ problems when he won't.

    Stop: Wildfire ahead.

    In April of this year, Governor Perry declared three days of prayer in Texas to get God to intervene and stop the drought and the ensuing wild fires that were engulfing the state. What did Perry do to help God out?

    Since fire season started on Nov. 15, 2010, the Texas Forest Service and area fire departments have responded to 18,300 fires that have burned 3,435,963 acres, according to the Forest Service. July was the hottest month ever recorded in Texas, according to state climatologist John Nielson-Gammon, and the 12 months ending July 31 were the driest since records started being kept in 1895. The drought has ravaged more than 78 percent of Texas and is rated historically exceptional.

    Texas depends mostly on volunteers to fight wildfires in rural areas. The appropriate response to the situation might be to raise the Forest Service's budget to fight fires. When the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram asked the Governor's office about a proposed 30 percent budget cut, spokeswoman Lucy Nashed responded:

    "We’re still working through the budget process, but the governor is committed to continuing to work with lawmakers in the House and Senate to craft a budget that prioritizes essential services, including public safety, without raising taxes."

    So, Governor, rather than raise taxes to fight fires, I guess you'd prefer to pray that God stop them for you, “Pretty please.”

    In May the Governor revealed that he prayed for President Obama every day: “I pray that God will open his [Obama] eyes. I wish this president would turn back the health care law that’s been passed, ask that his EPA back down these regulations that are causing businesses to hesitate to spend money.”

    Are you listening, God? It’s me, Rick Perry. We're 40th in health care, so won't you please do something about Obama?

    And don’t forget the big pray-in Perry sponsored with his right-wing minister pals on August 6th, calling together nearly 30,000 people to fast and pray all day to bring an end to our economic woes and set this country on the right track.

    Of course it was too late for God to step in and stop Standard and Poors from downgrading our nation’s credit rating, since S&P did that the Friday before God heard about it from Perry.

    And two days after the day of prayer on August 8th, the stock market plunged 635 points. Guess God wasn’t paying much attention or we are not worth saving. Or perhaps He only helps those who help themselves. State deficits are a big part of the problem, so He might leave his prayer line off the hook when Perry calls.

    This is the man the GOP thinks will be its savior/warrior ready to smite President Obama in 2012. However, the chinks in Perry’s armor are enormous and his backside is exposed, with more to be revealed about Perfect Perry. Stay tuned.

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    Believe it or not, this guy is not even popular in his own state, and the only reason he keeps getting reelected governor that I can think of is the weak opponents that have run against him the last few elections. I've voted against him in every election the last ten years.

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    His strengths are(in order) good hair, religious fanaticism and keeping Texan unemployment average during a massive oil boom?

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    Just yesterday I thought I was reading that he had minimal executive experience and was just a figurehead. Today I'm reading that he single-handedly raised the debt, cut the taxes and screwed over Texas.

    I must have misunderstood what a figure-head was.

    I don't like him either -- he screws over a lot of people and is extremely dishonest.
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