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    Hardrock69's Reefhead Madness Thread

    http://bighealthreport.com/1407/gove...-cancer-cells/


    Medicinal marijuana oil made from cannabis buds, when ingested thrice daily, for two months, will destroy leukemia and cancer cells. Here is just one study which shows the results:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594

    The government study was done by Jia W, Hegde VL, Singh NP, Sisco D, Grant S, Nagarkatti M,Nagarkatti PS at the Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology, Medical College of Virginia Campus, Virginia Commonwealth University, Richmond, USA.

    To quote: ”Cannabinoids including THC, induce apoptosis in leukemic cells” PMID: 16908594
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    I'm gonna live forever!!!
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    Woot!

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    Just another reason it should be legal but the government makes too much money from it being illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VAiN View Post
    I'm gonna live forever!!!
    hope it doesn't have to be oil form
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    You guys should really get into edibles or using a vaporizer.........

    I've been doing an infusion with garlic, organic oil and organic butter. Great for pasta
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    I guess my only question on this one would be..... How the Hell did Bob Marley die of cancer. The man smoked the herb religiously, every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    ...using a vaporizer.........
    +1 on this... Vapos are AMAZING. If you've never tried one, I strongly suggest you do.

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    +2...on vaporizers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknrolldork View Post
    the government makes too much money from it being illegal.
    ... how do you figure that?
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    Ever see the numbers on the War on Drugs?

    It's staggering how much money is wasted on it and how many nonviolent offenders are sitting in jail right now. All in an effort to legislate morality. The money generated in fines, lawyer fees and such are just insane.

    In the case of pot....all for a weed that damn near anyone can grow!

    Legalize it, regulate it, and be done with it.

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    Not to mention the entire privatized prison industry. THAT is what should be illegal. I don't understand how it's not. Without drug convictions - which are usually weed - those shitholes wouldn't exist.

    Hell, even the state prisons profit from the slave labor of drug convictions. I've seen crews from "Correctional Industries" come into the office and build furniture. These people ain't serial killers and pedophiles.

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    Of course, kwame. What I am not understanding is the argument that the government "makes money" on it. It looks to me like it spends money -- a LOT of money -- fighting the war on drugs. Fines may be a source of income but I would expect the costs (policing, judicial resources, attorney fees, prison costs) would significantly outweigh any amounts collected in fees.

    I support legalizing it, by the way. Regulate and tax the hell out of it, but don't criminalize it!

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    Sure the Government spends a ton of money policing it but look at all the industries that pop up because of it!

    Rehab, tethers, mandatory drug tests, classes and on and on. Millions are made off the system and millions are employed to enforce/feed off of it.

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    Look at how much money is spent per second on this.

    http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Shark View Post
    Of course, kwame. What I am not understanding is the argument that the government "makes money" on it. It looks to me like it spends money -- a LOT of money -- fighting the war on drugs. Fines may be a source of income but I would expect the costs (policing, judicial resources, attorney fees, prison costs) would significantly outweigh any amounts collected in fees.

    I support legalizing it, by the way. Regulate and tax the hell out of it, but don't criminalize it!
    Maybe I should have said lawmakers and funded systems make money from it being illegal, and not government as a whole?

    Drug kingpins lobby the same as big business. Don't think they don't. People deep in the drug trade have more to lose if it becomes legal. If it's legal, they don't have a way to make money. Courts win because of court costs. Prisons win because it's another person to add to the count to request funding. Attorneies win because of lawyer fees. Police offices get spiffs for quotas. Not all of the federal funding for the war on drugs is actually spent on the war on drugs. If your state police receive a hypothetical amount, say $2,000,000 for funding the war on drugs in that state, only about 75% of that money tops actually goes to the efforts on the war on drugs. That leaves $500,000 sitting in the general pot (no pun intended). If the drug arrests go down, so does the posts funding.

    I did 2 research papers on this topic. I need to dig up some of my research from school and post the references. Some of the stuff on legislative and police corruption (specifically 1967 - 1988) will blow your mind.
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    Here is the deal:

    It is not so much a 'profit' generator due to 'fines'.

    BECAUSE it is illegal, people arrested have to go to trial, go to jail etc.

    Because there are thousands and thousands of people in the court and penal system that would not otherwise be there, the governments (Local, State, Federal) have to ask for money each year in the fiscal budget to pay for that stuff.

    Law Enforcement has to ask for money to pay for hiring and training of officers.

    They have to pay for shit like this (from the news here in Gnashville just last night):

    http://www.wkrn.com/global/video/fla...o&rnd=11669479

    So it is not that the government uses it as a profit generator. They use it as an excuse to spend more of our tax dollars when it is not necessary.

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    Still getting over the vaporizer image!

    If I had leukemia I'd be in big trouble because, much like Bill Clinton, I tried pot once, only I did inhale. And it made me sick. GOD it made me sick, I felt like I was having a small seizure. Do you think it was just bad stuff or do people really just have bad reactions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes, Sensible View Post
    Still getting over the vaporizer image!

    If I had leukemia I'd be in big trouble because, much like Bill Clinton, I tried pot once, only I did inhale. And it made me sick. GOD it made me sick, I felt like I was having a small seizure. Do you think it was just bad stuff or do people really just have bad reactions?
    Sounds like it was laced with something. Never heard of anybody getting seizures from ganja. Sure it wasn't that Salvia crap?

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    Too long ago for Salvia I think. C'mon Ford, aren't you and I somewhat close in age? (Pot had seeds back then......)

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    Oh yeah, I remember seeds! I inhaled far too many burning seeds, usually from improvised beer can pipes or something else without a proper screen!

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    I laughed when Roth said "It was Thursday night. 1972." Yup. That was about 1 year off.
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    Well you were getting high a long time before me then. 1973? I was in second grade then. I didn't smoke dope until Reagan was in the White House.

    Maybe you got some of that Mexican shit that Nixon sprayed with Paraquat poison?

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    LOL. I have no idea.

    I wonder if they make this concentrate for leukemia treatment, is there is a certain type of marijuana they'd use.

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    One thing is for certain....these days the reefers are REALLY strong.

    I actively seek out standard mid-grade stuff that could be compared to average Columbian back in the day.

    I want to cop a light buzz.....not become a mindless, drooling zombie incapable of getting out of my chair, lol.

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    same here HR; we've got the horrible chemical tasting indoor shit here, but the hippies out in the hills grow the good organic natural buds. much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashstralia View Post
    same here HR; we've got the horrible chemical tasting indoor shit here,
    they are not flushing their plants properly

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    Yep, straight water 2 to 3 weeks before harvest.........or that's what I heard

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    Seems after the Oaksterdam Reefer College Raid some lawmakers decided to tell the Feds to shove it up their asses....

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1397811.html

    WASHINGTON -- Elected lawmakers in five states have a message for the federal government: Don't interfere with state medical marijuana laws.

    In an open letter to the federal government, lawmakers from both sides of the political aisle called on the government to stop using scarce law enforcement resources on taking pot away from medical marijuana patients.

    "States with medical marijuana laws have chosen to embrace an approach that is based on science, reason, and compassion. We are lawmakers from these states," the lawmakers explained in their letter.

    "Our state medical marijuana laws differ from one another in their details, such as which patients qualify for medical use; how much marijuana patients may possess; whether patients and caregivers may grow marijuana; and whether regulated entities may grow and sell marijuana to patients. Each of our laws, however, is motivated by a desire to protect seriously ill patients from criminal penalties under state law."

    The letter -- signed by Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-Calif.), Sen. Jeanne Kohl-Welles (D-Wash.), Rep. Antonio Maestas (D-N.M.), Sen. Cisco McSorley (D-N.M.), Assemblyman Chris Norby (R-Calif.), Rep. Deborah Sanderson (R-Maine) and Sen. Pat Steadman (D-Colo.) -- comes directly on the heels of a federal raid in the heart of California's pot legalization movement: medical marijuana training school Oaksterdam University in downtown Oakland, where U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration officials on Monday blocked off doors with yellow tape and carried off trash bags full of unknown substances to a nearby van. An IRS spokeswoman could not comment on the raid except to say the agents had a federal search warrant.

    The lawmakers called on President Obama to live up to his campaign promise to leave the regulation of medical marijuana to the states, adding raids would only "force patients underground" into the illegal drug market.

    The president as a candidate promised to maintain a hands-off approach toward pot clinics that adhere to state law. At a 2007 town hall meeting in Manchester, N.H., Obama said raiding patients who use marijuana for medicinal purposes "makes no sense." At another town hall in Nashua, N.H., he said the Justice Department's prosecution of medical marijuana users was "not a good use of our resources." Yet the number of Justice Department raids on marijuana dispensaries has continued to rise.

    Read the full letter here:
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________
    Over the last two decades, 16 states and the District of Columbia have chosen to depart from federal policy and chart their own course on the issue of medical marijuana, as states are entitled to do under our federalist system of government. These states have rejected the fallacy long promoted by the federal government -- that marijuana has absolutely no accepted medical use and that seriously ill people must choose between ignoring their doctors' medical advice or risking arrest and prosecution. They have stopped using their scarce law enforcement resources to punish patients and those who care for them and have instead spent considerable resources and time crafting programs that will provide patients with safe and regulated access to medical marijuana.

    States with medical marijuana laws have chosen to embrace an approach that is based on science, reason, and compassion. We are lawmakers from these states.

    Our state medical marijuana laws differ from one another in their details, such as which patients qualify for medical use; how much marijuana patients may possess; whether patients and caregivers may grow marijuana; and whether regulated entities may grow and sell marijuana to patients. Each of our laws, however, is motivated by a desire to protect seriously ill patients from criminal penalties under state law; to provide a safe and reliable source of medical marijuana; and to balance and protect the needs of local communities and other residents in the state. The laws were drafted with considered thoughtfulness and care, and are thoroughly consistent with the American tradition of using the states as laboratories for public policy innovation and experimentation.

    Unfortunately, these laws face a mounting level of federal hostility and confusing mixed messages from the Obama Administration, the Department of Justice, and the various United States Attorneys. In 2008, then candidate Obama stated that as President, he would not use the federal government to circumvent state laws on the issue of medical marijuana. This promise was followed up in 2009 by President Obama with a Department of Justice memo from former Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden stating that federal resources should not generally be focused "on individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana." This provided welcome guidance for state legislators and administrators and encouraged us to move forward with drafting and passing responsible regulatory legislation.

    Nonetheless, the United States Attorneys in several states with medical marijuana laws have chosen a different course. They have explicitly threatened that federal investigative and prosecutorial resources "will continue to be directed" towards the manufacture and distribution of medical marijuana, even if such activities are permitted under state law. These threats have generally been timed to influence pending legislation or encourage the abandonment of state and local regulatory programs. They contradict President Obama's campaign promise and policy his first year in office and serve to push medical marijuana activity back into the illicit market.

    Most disturbing is that a few United States Attorneys warn that state employees who implement the laws and regulations of our states are not immune from criminal prosecution under the federal Controlled Substances Act. They do so notwithstanding the fact that no provision exists within the Controlled Substances Act that makes it a crime for a state employee to enforce regulations that help a state define conduct that is legal under its own state laws.

    Hundreds of state and municipal employees are currently involved in the licensing and regulation of medical marijuana producers and providers in New Mexico, Colorado, Maine, and California, and have been for years. The federal government has never threatened, much less prosecuted, any of these employees. Indeed, the federal government has not, to our knowledge, prosecuted state employees for performing their ministerial duties under state law in modern history. It defies logic and precedent that the federal government would start prosecuting state employees now.

    Recognizing the lack of any real harm to state employees, a number of states have moved forward. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie drew on his own experience as a former United States Attorney in deciding that New Jersey state workers were not realistically at risk of federal prosecution in his decision to move forward implementing New Jersey’s medical marijuana program. Rhode Island, Vermont, Arizona, and the District of Columbia are also in the process of implementing their state laws.

    Nonetheless, the suggestion that state employees are at risk is have a destructive and chilling impact. Washington Governor Christine Gregoire vetoed legislation to regulate medical marijuana in her state and Delaware Governor Jack Markell suspended implementation of his state's regulatory program after receiving warnings from the United States Attorneys in their states about state employees. Additionally, a number of localities in California ended or suspended regulatory programs after receiving similar threats to their workers.

    We, the undersigned state legislators, call on state and local officials to not be intimidated by these empty federal threats. Our state medical marijuana programs should be implemented and move forward. Our work, and the will of our voters, should see the light of day.

    We call on the federal government not to interfere with our ability to control and regulate how medical marijuana is grown and distributed. Let us seek clarity rather than chaos. Don’t force patients underground, to fuel the illegal drug market.

    And finally, we call on President Obama to recommit to the principles and policy on which he campaigned and asserted his first year in office. Please respect our state laws. And don't use our employees as pawns in your zealous and misguided war on medical marijuana.

    Assemblymember Tom Ammiano (D-CA)

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    Senator Cisco McSorley (D-NM)

    Assemblymember Chris Norby (R-CA)

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    Senator Pat Steadman (D-CO)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    I guess my only question on this one would be..... How the Hell did Bob Marley die of cancer. The man smoked the herb religiously, every day.

    Sorry to rain on the parade a bit here but it's worth mentioning that there are also studies that show that it causes cancer. This seems like a fair summary.
    http://cancerhelp.cancerresearchuk.o...ancer#evidence

    Also I've posted a few times now that cancer is the general name for a type of disease so there can be no single cure(or cause) for it.

    Here is a list of some of the more common diseases that come under the group cancer.


    Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia, Adult
    Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia, Childhood
    Acute Myeloid Leukemia, Adult
    Acute Myeloid Leukemia, Childhood
    Adrenocortical Carcinoma
    Adrenocortical Carcinoma, Childhood
    AIDS-Related Cancers
    AIDS-Related Lymphoma
    Anal Cancer
    Astrocytoma, Childhood Cerebellar
    Astrocytoma, Childhood Cerebral
    Bile Duct Cancer, Extrahepatic
    Bladder Cancer
    Bladder Cancer, Childhood
    Bone Cancer, Osteosarcoma/Malignant Fibrous Histiocytoma
    Brain Stem Glioma, Childhood
    Brain Tumor, Adult
    Brain Tumor, Brain Stem Glioma, Childhood
    Brain Tumor, Cerebellar Astrocytoma, Childhood
    Brain Tumor, Cerebral Astrocytoma/Malignant Glioma, Childhood
    Brain Tumor, Ependymoma, Childhood
    Brain Tumor, Medulloblastoma, Childhood
    Brain Tumor, Supratentorial Primitive Neuroectodermal Tumors, Childhood
    Brain Tumor, Visual Pathway and Hypothalamic Glioma, Childhood
    Brain Tumor, Childhood (Other)
    Breast Cancer
    Breast Cancer and Pregnancy
    Breast Cancer, Childhood
    Breast Cancer, Male
    Bronchial Adenomas/Carcinoids, Childhood
    Carcinoid Tumor, Childhood
    Carcinoid Tumor,Gastrointestinal
    Carcinoma, Adrenocortical
    Carcinoma, Islet Cell
    Carcinoma of Unknown Primary
    Central Nervous System Lymphoma, Primary
    Cerebellar Astrocytoma, Childhood
    Cerebral Astrocytoma/Malignant Glioma, Childhood
    Cervical Cancer
    Childhood Cancers
    Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia
    Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia
    Chronic Myeloproliferative Disorders
    Clear Cell Sarcoma of Tendon Sheaths
    Colon Cancer
    Colorectal Cancer, Childhood
    Cutaneous T-Cell Lymphoma
    Endometrial Cancer
    Ependymoma, Childhood
    Epithelial Cancer, Ovarian
    Esophageal Cancer
    Esophageal Cancer, Childhood
    Ewing's Family of Tumors
    Extracranial Germ Cell Tumor, Childhood
    Extragonadal Germ Cell Tumor
    Extrahepatic Bile Duct Cancer
    Eye Cancer, Intraocular Melanoma
    Eye Cancer, Retinoblastoma
    Gallbladder Cancer
    Gastric (Stomach) Cancer
    Gastric (Stomach) Cancer, Childhood
    Gastrointestinal Carcinoid Tumor
    Germ Cell Tumor, Extracranial, Childhood
    Germ Cell Tumor, Extragonadal
    Germ Cell Tumor, Ovarian
    Gestational Trophoblastic Tumor
    Glioma, Childhood Brain Stem
    Glioma, Childhood Visual Pathway and Hypothalamic
    Hairy Cell Leukemia
    Head and Neck Cancer
    Hepatocellular (Liver) Cancer, Adult (Primary)
    Hepatocellular (Liver) Cancer, Childhood (Primary)
    Hodgkin's Lymphoma, Adult
    Hodgkin's Lymphoma, Childhood
    Hodgkin's Lymphoma During Pregnancy
    Hypopharyngeal Cancer
    Hypothalamic and Visual Pathway Glioma, Childhood
    Intraocular Melanoma
    Islet Cell Carcinoma (Endocrine Pancreas)
    Kaposi's Sarcoma
    Kidney Cancer
    Laryngeal Cancer
    Laryngeal Cancer, Childhood
    Leukemia, Acute Lymphoblastic, Adult
    Leukemia, Acute Lymphoblastic, Childhood
    Leukemia, Acute Myeloid, Adult
    Leukemia, Acute Myeloid, Childhood
    Leukemia, Chronic Lymphocytic
    Leukemia, Chronic Myelogenous
    Leukemia, Hairy Cell
    Lip and Oral Cavity Cancer
    Liver Cancer, Adult (Primary)
    Liver Cancer, Childhood (Primary)
    Lung Cancer, Non-Small Cell
    Lung Cancer, Small Cell
    Lymphoblastic Leukemia, Adult Acute
    Lymphoblastic Leukemia, Childhood Acute
    Lymphocytic Leukemia, Chronic
    Lymphoma, AIDS-Related
    Lymphoma, Central Nervous System (Primary)
    Lymphoma, Cutaneous T-Cell
    Lymphoma, Hodgkin's, Adult
    Lymphoma, Hodgkin's, Childhood
    Lymphoma, Hodgkin's During Pregnancy
    Lymphoma, Non-Hodgkin's, Adult
    Lymphoma, Non-Hodgkin's, Childhood
    Non-Hodgkin's During Pregnancy
    Lymphoma, Primary Central Nervous System
    Macroglobulinemia, Waldenstr�m's
    Male Breast Cancer
    Malignant Mesothelioma, Adult
    Malignant Mesothelioma, Childhood
    Medulloblastoma, Childhood
    Melanoma
    Melanoma, Intraocular
    Merkel Cell Carcinoma
    Mesothelioma, Malignant
    Metastatic Squamous Neck Cancer with Occult Primary
    Multiple Endocrine Neoplasia Syndrome, Childhood
    Multiple Myeloma/Plasma Cell Neoplasm
    Mycosis Fungoides
    Myelodysplastic Syndromes
    Myelodysplastic/Myeloproliferative Diseases
    Myelogenous Leukemia, Chronic
    Myeloid Leukemia, Adult Acute
    Myeloid Leukemia, Childhood Acute
    Myeloma, Multiple
    Myeloproliferative Disorders, Chronic
    Nasal Cavity and Paranasal Sinus Cancer
    Nasopharyngeal Cancer
    Nasopharyngeal Cancer, Childhood
    Neuroblastoma
    Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, Adult
    Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, Childhood
    Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma During Pregnancy
    Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer
    Oral Cancer, Childhood
    Oral Cavity and Lip Cancer
    Oropharyngeal Cancer
    Osteosarcoma/Malignant Fibrous Histiocytoma of Bone
    Ovarian Cancer, Childhood
    Ovarian Epithelial Cancer
    Ovarian Germ Cell Tumor
    Ovarian Low Malignant Potential Tumor
    Pancreatic Cancer
    Pancreatic Cancer, Childhood
    Pancreatic Cancer, Islet Cell
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    Pheochromocytoma
    Pineal and Supratentorial Primitive Neuroectodermal Tumors, Childhood
    Pituitary Tumor
    Plasma Cell Neoplasm/Multiple Myeloma
    Pleuropulmonary Blastoma
    Pregnancy and Breast Cancer
    Pregnancy and Hodgkin's Lymphoma
    Pregnancy and Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma
    Primary Central Nervous System Lymphoma
    Primary Liver Cancer, Adult
    Primary Liver Cancer, Childhood
    Prostate Cancer
    Rectal Cancer
    Renal Cell (Kidney) Cancer
    Renal Cell Cancer, Childhood
    Renal Pelvis and Ureter, Transitional Cell Cancer
    Retinoblastoma
    Rhabdomyosarcoma, Childhood
    Salivary Gland Cancer
    Salivary Gland Cancer, Childhood
    Sarcoma, Ewing's Family of Tumors
    Sarcoma, Kaposi's
    Sarcoma (Osteosarcoma)/Malignant Fibrous Histiocytoma of Bone
    Sarcoma, Rhabdomyosarcoma, Childhood
    Sarcoma, Soft Tissue, Adult
    Sarcoma, Soft Tissue, Childhood
    Sezary Syndrome
    Skin Cancer
    Skin Cancer, Childhood
    Skin Cancer (Melanoma)
    Skin Carcinoma, Merkel Cell
    Small Cell Lung Cancer
    Small Intestine Cancer
    Soft Tissue Sarcoma, Adult
    Soft Tissue Sarcoma, Childhood
    Squamous Neck Cancer with Occult Primary, Metastatic
    Stomach (Gastric) Cancer
    Stomach (Gastric) Cancer, Childhood
    Supratentorial Primitive Neuroectodermal Tumors, Childhood
    T-Cell Lymphoma, Cutaneous
    Testicular Cancer
    Thymoma, Childhood
    Thymoma and Thymic Carcinoma Thyroid Cancer
    Thyroid Cancer, Childhood
    Transitional Cell Cancer of the Renal Pelvis and Ureter
    Trophoblastic Tumor, Gestational
    Unknown Primary Site, Carcinoma of, Adult
    Unknown Primary Site, Cancer of, Childhood
    Unusual Cancers of Childhood
    Ureter and Renal Pelvis, Transitional Cell Cancer
    Urethral Cancer
    Uterine Cancer, Endometrial
    Uterine Sarcoma
    Vaginal Cancer
    Visual Pathway and Hypothalamic Glioma, Childhood
    Vulvar Cancer
    Waldenstrom's Macroglobulinemia
    Wilms' Tumor
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    Does the president have much power on drugs apart from appointing the head of the DEA?

    Would Romney be better because it appears he would be much worse.

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    As governor, in July of 2006 Romney vetoed a bill that would allow for the sale of hypodermic needles without a prescription. This law was intended to reduce the spread of diseases such as Hepatitis C and HIV, but Romney believed that since it would "facilitate illegal drug use" and "send the wrong message to young people," the bill's medical aspects should be disregarded. His flimsy reasoning was exposed when the Massachusetts legislators overrode his veto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    Still getting over the vaporizer image!

    If I had leukemia I'd be in big trouble because, much like Bill Clinton, I tried pot once, only I did inhale. And it made me sick. GOD it made me sick, I felt like I was having a small seizure. Do you think it was just bad stuff or do people really just have bad reactions?
    What year was it. Sounds like the reaction that I had to some mexican weed. We figured it was probably from the paraquat the gov was spraying at that time.
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    +3 on Vaporizors !

    Havent done it in years, but if I do decide to give my liver a break, vapor for me.
    And Ash, I am in prime Hippie growing country
    Just need some seeds, you put a stick in the ground here and its a tree in a week !
    Very Mullumbimby/Byron type country...

    With regards to cancer, 2 out of 3 of us will get some form of it. (If you live long enough)
    Hopefully when its your turn, its one they have learned how to nuke.
    If you are genetically disposed to it, not much you can do ? The good thing about the genetic
    cancers is you can monitor early if you know you are likely to get it.

    Been there once already, getting ready to checkout threat number 2 !
    Those that have been struck down with multiple and brain tumours,
    seems we still have a lot to learn. Recent advise from leading cancer specialists
    is that more people will be getting cancer, but also more will be saved.
    I thought by this stage of my life they would have had most cancers covered, in a way
    I guess they do. Theres still those 3 deadly ones that I dont want to play with.

    Anyone think city processed water and food preservatives are fucking us ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    Still getting over the vaporizer image!

    If I had leukemia I'd be in big trouble because, much like Bill Clinton, I tried pot once, only I did inhale. And it made me sick. GOD it made me sick, I felt like I was having a small seizure. Do you think it was just bad stuff or do people really just have bad reactions?
    Its not uncommon to "OD" on your first few tries. I did.... You turn white, throw up everywhere, feel like death. I think the 3rd or 4th try, I saw the light, and it was good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamark View Post
    Anyone think city processed water and food preservatives are fucking us ?
    It's a fact Marky!

    They've linked pasteurized milk to Autism in children.

    The Fluoride in water has been linked to numerous health related problems.....it's a toxic product after all!

    The growth hormones in meat and poultry has been linked to many different types of health problems.

    High Fructose Corn Syrup is a major cause of obesity and other maladies. Your body cannot process the stuff.

    GMO-modified plants have a pesticide put in them on a genetic level, reduces the need for spraying crops that way.

    Look at that pink slime that was in the news lately......it's the major ingredient in McDonalds hamburger and now we find out this filler has been put in tons of other foods.

    There was a study that linked obesity to food by way of nutritional value, it explains why we eat so much. It's not because we're pigs, it's because to get the daily nutrients our bodies need we have to consume twice as much food.....why, because they have over-processed and have taken out the natural nutrients in order to grow food and process it quicker and to make sure it has a longer shelf life.

    It's fucking scary if you actually read what is out there in the public domain........there's numerous reports from government agencies on this subject and not just the tinfoil hat web sites.

    Hell, Monsanto corn is banned in Mexico and other countries to the point where we can't even export meat, dairy, poultry and other food because it was grown with Monsanto feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamark View Post
    Its not uncommon to "OD" on your first few tries. I did.... You turn white, throw up everywhere, feel like death. I think the 3rd or 4th try, I saw the light, and it was good
    The classic .... whitey ..........every one has had them at one time or another usually when they first start ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamark View Post
    Anyone think city processed water and food preservatives are fucking us ?
    Fuckin' A right they are...

    Fluoride and other waste from sources such as coal, military industry, prescription drugs and even nuclear waste in the drinking water supply...

    GMO corn and other crops including wheat...

    Steroid and growth hormone pumped chicken, cattle and pigs...

    Artifical sweeteners, fillers, antibiotics...

    On and on and on...


    It's killing us all, by design...



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