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    My Tweet to Eddie Trunk

    After hearing on his Brian Johnson episode of That Metal Show that Eddie Trunk perpetuated the lie again about VH with Bette selling more than with DLR, here was my response via Twitter....

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    @EddieTrunk Ed, please correct your audience that VH with DLR sold DOUBLE than with SH. DLR/VH = 34 mil, SH/VH = 16 mil #notevenclose

    42 seconds ago via TwInbox


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    This should be good. I doubt he replies..
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    Keep in mind that those figures you fired back at Trunk are certified US sales only - Van Halen sold more overseas with DLR than with Hagar as well, would be my guess. So the gap will probably be bigger than the US sales gap itself reveals.

    VH's two 10-million sellers were last certified by the RIAA a long time ago. It is only if and when the record label requests an audit that the RIAA do a new count, so to speak. Sales will have slowly continued to nudge up through downloads especially since all that activity will have occurred post-the last Diamond certification. Will the Hagar-era albums have continued to sell? Somehow I think not in the same quantities.

    As it happens I wound up on Wikipedia last night looking at UK number one albums for the 70s, and I found myself at a page titled 'List of Best Selling Music Artists':

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._music_artists

    I was baffled as to how, for instance, Kiss could be listed as a band with Claimed Sales of 100 million, when their certified worldwide sales figures (acc to the article) were only about 20 million. That's quite a discrepancy. Meanwhile Van Halen appear much further down the list even though their certified sales were around 60 million (with claimed total sales - based on some entertainment news article about Val Bertinelli's divorce from Ed as the source of that nugget of truth - of 80 million as a total).

    Anyway - Wikipedia. What a bullshit list! About a dozen acts ranked higher than VH on the basis of CLAIMED sales have less certified sales than VH. But it's all the result of fans lobbying and editing in claims on the basis of the kind of unsourced statements you get in news articles. There was, amidst the endless arguments and discussions about the methodology of the list on the discussion page, another list reproduced from last.fm that had Van Halen's global figure at 136 million sold. Not a reliable source, apparently - although tabloid newspaper stories are ...

    All these estimated claims are supposedly backed up from certain 'reliable' sources (ho ho) - viz., fucking news stories where some band PR - or in the case of Kiss, probably Simmons - blurts out that 'yeah, we sold a hundred million.' Bull Shit. I really doubt very much that newspapers in this day and age have fact checkers for stuff like this - even if they did, the only factual info is the ... certified sales!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    Keep in mind that those figures you fired back at Trunk are certified US sales only - Van Halen sold more overseas with DLR than with Hagar as well, would be my guess. So the gap will probably be bigger than the US sales gap itself reveals.
    Oh, I know, and I'm ready to fire back if he throws that up there....

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    It's 15 years since VH1 was certified a 10-million seller. That album probably still sells. I've bought it twice in the last year or so - the vinyl reissue and a CD remaster. It's 13 years since 1984 was certified a 10-million seller. Because of 'Jump', if nothing else, that album probably still sells to fans who are newly discovering the band as well.

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    This outta be good.................

    Any fool knows the truth..............time for Trunk to own up to the facts
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    The last thing Trunk wants is to engage in a tweet war with the Roth Army. Some battles are not winnable.
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    He's been answering tweets this morning, but alas, not mine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    He fears you
    Seriously...you've seen Va when he's cranky...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    It's 15 years since VH1 was certified a 10-million seller. That album probably still sells. I've bought it twice in the last year or so - the vinyl reissue and a CD remaster. It's 13 years since 1984 was certified a 10-million seller. Because of 'Jump', if nothing else, that album probably still sells to fans who are newly discovering the band as well.
    I'm sure that it's selling tons...

    but in the last five years or so, the numbers are muddled by downloads...digital buys aren't figured in to standard buys...i don't believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonrisa salvaje View Post
    The last thing Trunk wants is to engage in a tweet war with the Roth Army. Some battles are not winnable.

    Trunk is a FUCKIN' FRAUD and a Sambo Pussy Nugget Revisionist History Regurgitator. He needs to be banned from the airwaves.

    Trunk calls himself a "true Van Halen fan", but then his little pea brain shuts down when asked to name all 11 VH studio albums.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMKID View Post
    Trunk is a FUCKIN' FRAUD and a Sambo Pussy Nugget Revisionist History Regurgitator. He needs to be banned from the airwaves.

    Trunk calls himself a "true Van Halen fan", but then his little pea brain shuts down when asked to name all 11 VH studio albums.



    I agree with the too much "he who should remain nameless" bias, but hell, I shut down when I try and list the albums.....usually getting lost in the first one (On Fire) and then just continuing to stop on the second (Outta Love Again)....... Den she can make me breakfast while 1984 is playing.


    Last edited by SunisinuS; 11-27-2011 at 04:33 PM. Reason: Those are the only Van Halen albums featuring Van Halen. 1996 was the last two songs.
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    There is no real journalism anymore. I had to take a newspaper writing class in college that was taught by an old school newspaper man who covered the beat for the Honolulu Herald in the days before reporters were really glamorized. He knew his shit and we followed the Associated Press Handbook to the T. You had to be thorough, check all your facts, and cover the story in the inverted pyramid formate using as little space as possible because it all had to fit into a newspaper. I think the electronic press has made people sloppy. He used to love to call television reporters air heads. It's become a lost art.
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    While I don't particularly agree with many of Trunk's opinions (and it IS a bit clear he's in the bag for Hagar), it is a bit surprising that he thinks Hagar outsold Roth far as Van Halen albums goes...usually the guy manages to get the bare facts correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJMKID View Post

    Trunk calls himself a "true Van Halen fan", but then his little pea brain shuts down when asked to name all 11 VH studio albums.

    I can only name 6 myself.

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    Well...with any FArking luck.....DAVE will do TMS to hype this CD............


    THEN....THEN Mr Eddie FUCKING Trunk motherfucker.....you'll be dealing with the MAN...who will NOT let that shit stand, son................

    I'll believe it when I see it...if the sisters turn the Mutha of ALL Frontmen loose this time out.........

    He'll put this Spammbo shit to bed....for fucking Good

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    Quote Originally Posted by POJO_Risin View Post
    Seriously...you've seen Va when he's cranky...
    That and just @RothArmy would make you think hard before responding

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    Dave and VH are simply going to continue to beat Sam down by acting on the very quote Hagar used to muttle to the crowd back around the time of their shitty faux live album. "What is understood need not be discussed." Correctamundo!! He knows his facts ain't facts and his goose is cooked. Anyone who wants the truth about record sales can do the homework for themselves, rather than take the word of an insignificant man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    While I don't particularly agree with many of Trunk's opinions (and it IS a bit clear he's in the bag for Hagar), it is a bit surprising that he thinks Hagar outsold Roth far as Van Halen albums goes...usually the guy manages to get the bare facts correct.

    Trunk had Sammy Pussy Nugget on "That Metal Show" a couple months ago and it was all softball questions designed not to hurt Hagar's feelings. I was waiting for Trunk to call out Sambo on some of the blatant lies he printed in his book --- such as "I was as huge as Van Halen in 1984" or "Roth-era concerts were not very tight since they were 4 solos and maybe 6 or 7 songs". Any music journalist with half a spine would've called Sammy out on that kind of bullshit, but Trunk was quite happy to waste time sucking on his nutsack and telling everyone how good Sammy looks for his age --- even though his flabby belly and cottage cheese thighs could not be concealed under that stupid t-shirt and capri pants ensemble he wears these days.

    Trunk is a joke and nowhere close to being an objective music journalist. He only has a radio & TV show because he's chummy with a lot of metal and hard rock acts. He's a PR puppet and gossip spreader ---- nothing more.

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    Va, i'm assuming Trunk never responded to your tweet so the thing to do would be to call him tonight on his 3 hour live xm/sirius show. I have gotten through several times. If you call just tell the screener you want to ask about the Van Halen reunion. If you give away what you are going to ask him he probably won't take the call.

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    Nah, I ain't got time for that....

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    C'mon VA ! I'll find a way to listen if you do!
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    I don't understand why hagar should even be on a show about metal.

    If that's the case, Journey, Reo, Styx should all be on the show as those are his "Contemporaries". And I feel bad even comparing Hagar to the first two as they're actually really talented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unchainme View Post
    I don't understand why hagar should even be on a show about metal.

    If that's the case, Journey, Reo, Styx should all be on the show as those are his "Contemporaries". And I feel bad even comparing Hagar to the first two as they're actually really talented.
    Sam could be on a show about scrap metal. He has produced enough junk over the years to be an expert on that.

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    Metal alloys have become heavier than what was produced in the early 70's. Used to be Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and of course Black Sabbath were considered early metal... pretty mild stuff compared to today's Drop-D from hell, meth-infused crap... today.
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    Someone should tell Trunk to STFU with the false Spam praise... no one should enable the Flatulent one in spreading his BS...


    FFS, I used to work in the record industry and regularly SAW the sales figures... NO WAY did the Velveeta years outsell the 6-pack, EVER...just didn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unchainme View Post
    I don't understand why hagar should even be on a show about metal.

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    Because there isn't a show about Milkshakes and Hallmark Cards
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrillsNSpills View Post
    Because there isn't a show about Milkshakes and Hallmark Cards

    And until the Colonoscopy Channel secures funding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrillsNSpills View Post
    Because there isn't a show about Milkshakes and Hallmark Cards
    Actually, there is. It's called Emeril's Table and airs daily on...yup, the Hallmark Channel. Nope, me neither.

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    Not exactly a shocker, but Eddie never responded to me....

    And, by the way, I actually like Emeril's spaghetti sauce, got a nice tang to it....

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    Trunk likes to fondle everyone's balls...and he does throw soft balls at times.

    Fact is though I give him props...he has said many times the David Lee Roth version is untouble...even though he loves Sam.

    Still the best programmed four hour block on Sirius' Boneyard...XM's version is sadly missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post

    And, by the way, I actually like Emeril's spaghetti sauce, got a nice tang to it....
    Really? I find it more or less bland, and not much better than Prego. To tell ya the truth, the best jarred sauce I ever tasted was Frank Sinatra's, but sadly, it's been off the market since he passed away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Not exactly a shocker, but Eddie never responded to me....

    And, by the way, I actually like Emeril's spaghetti sauce, got a nice tang to it....
    Nor did he respond to my post agreeing with you that he is full of sh*t. Not surprising.

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    Va,Phone The Fucker,Please.
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    Seen the episode the other day, you could see Jim Florentine frown up when Trunk made that statement, like dude you're wrong.

    But I guess he couldn't correct him on tv?
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    It is intensely frustrating to see others propagate that fucking lie...

    I could see if they were neck and neck...or if Hagar's version of the band put out anything remotely close to being something memorable...

    but they weren't even fucking close with regards to sales...and seriously...is there ANY Hagar version that you could put into the top 20 of Van Halen's all time top songs? I can't stand the Hagar version....but if there was one...I'd remember it...right?

    Isn't that the point?

    So liking Hagar, or not liking Hagar isn't the deal...it's that Hagar's movie is like purchasing Prego for your spaghetti sauce...it's better than just dumping ketchup on it, but a day or so later, it all leaves you quickly, never to be heard from again...

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    Eddy Truck sounds like a massive intellectual pussy who deserves to have his balls kicked in. Only, he doesn't have any...
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    Trunk is a delusional Pussy who's never been in the Pit....
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    Eddie Trunk

    ...is Eddie Trunk annoying to anyone else?

    Not a big fan but I just finished watching Iron Maiden 666 from 2008 (very cool documentary by the way) Eddie is interviewing BD and coming off like a retard. Not the first time I've had that impression, but hey, who am I to criticize...

    Sometimes I get the impression he tries way too hard - I know he does some good stuff too - Rocklahoma, That Metal Show etc
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