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I went over to the Ronald Reagan Library in Simi Valley. The main reason was to check out the presidential 707 that was used as Air Force One. The Gipper is buried under a lot of concrete. I like to joke that Nancy wanted a lot of concrete over Ron so the Republican Party wouldn't dig him up and parade him around.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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No doubt, nor lack of hope.
Isn't yours the party of hope?
NDAA
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HR 347
Military able to assassinate American Citizens
Military able to arrest and hold Americans indefinitely without trial
Drones authorized to patrol American skies
War on Drugs extended to medical marijuana dispenseries
Defends warrantless wiretapping laws
How's that workin' out for you?Last edited by Dr. Love; 03-13-2012, 12:18 AM.Comment
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No surprise then that Nader supports Ron Paul.
Ralph Nader Hearts Ron Paul, Hails Potential Left-Libertarian Alliance
Matt Welch | September 28, 2011
Michael Tracey, who wrote about restrictive teen-driving laws in the June issue of Reason, catches up with the consumer crusader for The American Conservative:
Looking ahead to the 2012 presidential race, one might assume that Nader has little to be cheerful about.
Yet he says there is one candidate who sticks out—who even gives him hope: Rep. Ron Paul of Texas. [...]
"Look at the latitude," Nader says, referring to the potential for cooperation between libertarians and the left. "Military budget, foreign wars, empire, Patriot Act, corporate welfare—for starters. When you add those all up, that's a foundational convergence. Progressives should do so good."
I thought I'd bring up the subject of Ron Paul with Nader after seeing the two jointly interviewed on Fox Business Channel in January. Nader had caught me off guard when he identified an emergent left-libertarian alliance as "today's most exciting new political dynamic." It was easy to foresee objections that the left might raise: if progressives are in favor of expanding the welfare state, how well can they really get along with folks who go around quoting the likes of Hayek and Rothbard?
"That's strategic sabotage," Nader responds, sharply. "It's an intellectual indulgence....If they're on your side, and you don't compromise your positions, what do you care who they quote? Franklin Delano Roosevelt sided with Stalin against Hitler. Not to draw that analogy, I'm just saying—why did he side with Stalin? Because Stalin went along with everything FDR wanted." [...]
"Libertarians like Ron Paul are on our side on civil liberties. They're on our side against the military-industrial complex. They're on our side against Wall Street. They're on our side for investor rights. That's a foundational convergence," he exhorts. "It's not just itty-bitty stuff." [...]
There are nascent movements underway to bring disaffected progressives into Ron Paul's fold. A new organization called Blue Republican, advertised on the Huffington Post and elsewhere, urges Democrats to pledge their support for Paul. While Nader isn't willing to endorse Paul's candidacy at this point, during our interview his praise grew increasingly effusive. "Ron Paul has always been anti-corporate, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-big banks, anti-bailouts," Nader says. "I mean, they view him in the same way they view me on a lot of these issues. Did you see the latest poll? He's like two points behind Obama."Comment
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I actually listened to an interview with Ron Paul and Ralph Nader. Ron Paul said he's a Libertarian but runs on the Republican ticket so he can get on all the country ballots. Ralph Nader said it's extremely expensive to run as an independent because you have to have a staff of people to go country to country and satisfy each protocol to get on the ballots. It's a real nightmare.
If anything it just shows how biased the Republican Party is and how corrupt it is. Ron Paul is pulling his own and should be equally treated with the rest of the candidates. The thing is, he's a big threat to the banking system and the war industry. The gravy train for the party.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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No surprise then that Nader supports Ron Paul.
http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/28/ra...ts-ron-paul-ha
This just in.....Titanic Supports the Andrea Gail!!!!!
omg.Originally posted by KristyOriginally posted by cadaverdogComment
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You're right. Doc....
Ron Paul will win the GOP Nomination, and Nick and I have been wrong all along.....
Hope you and ELBOW go easy on us in August when Ron is named the GOP Nominee...
lolOriginally posted by KristyOriginally posted by cadaverdogComment
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I know memory problems are common in your elder years but I did just say that I don't expect him to win.
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Look what happened to McCain, a guy that 10 years ago seemed reasonably sound.
First he chooses Palin as a running mate which was ludicrous for a million reasons and since then post election as far as I can make out has lost the plot totally veering all over the place.
Late 70s is too old to be president. Look at Reagan's second term which a lot of people like to forget about now, his brain had melted. The job is about decision making and judgement. Anyone that has ever been shopping with someone in their 70s knows that is not a job for them.Comment
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John McCain is very active in the Senate sponsoring bills that erode habeas corpus and promote a military police state and is totally on a tizzy fit right now for us to attack Iran. Most veterans I know want to avoid war at all costs. You would think a guy who was in the Hanoi Hilton would think the same. For some crazy reason John seems to love war and seems to loath basic human rights. The guy is fucked in the head and would be very dangerous in the White House.
As bad as Barrack Obama is and he's pretty fucking bad. I cringe to think of what a McCain/Palin white house would take us.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Yeah, the McCain of 2000 and the McCain of 2008 seemed like two entirely different guys. Hell, even I voted for him in the 2000 primary, because I thought a McCain presidency might have been tolerable, and I KNEW a Chimpy presidency would not be.
McCain did a lot of Chimp ass kissing in the years in between, which didn't help his reputation either, but the movie "Game Change" makes it clear exactly how much Moosealini ate his campaign. If you don't have HBO, look for it online, it's not hard to findEat Us And Smile
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"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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