Well, he did say he was focusing on the Republican "frontrunners," and I don't think Ron Paul qualifies. But still, it's a valid point.
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Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.
Paul won the debate imo.
Romney came 2nd
Gingrich third.
Santorum got his frothy ass kicked.
Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team
This is Paul's best debate performance...
A comparison of Ron Paul's budget against Obama's.
watch out Lounge, there's probably going to be a lot of words you might have to read!
SYNOPSIS:
America is the greatest nation in human history. Our respect for individual liberty, free markets, and limited constitutional government produced the strongest, most prosperous country in the world. But, we have drifted far from our founding principles, and America is in crisis. Ron Paul’s “Restore America” plan slams on the brakes and puts America on a return to constitutional government. It is bold but achievable. Through the bully pulpit of the presidency, the power of the Veto, and, most importantly, the united voice of freedom-loving Americans, we can implement fundamental reforms.
DELIVERS A TRUE BALANCED BUDGET IN YEAR THREE OF DR. PAUL’S PRESIDENCY:
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who doesn’t just talk about balancing the budget, but who has a full plan to get it done.
SPENDING:
Cuts $1 trillion in spending during the first year of Ron Paul’s presidency, eliminating five cabinet departments (Energy, HUD, Commerce, Interior, and Education), abolishing the Transportation Security Administration and returning responsibility for security to private property owners, abolishing corporate subsidies, stopping foreign aid, ending foreign wars, and returning most other spending to 2006 levels.
ENTITLEMENTS:
Honors our promise to our seniors and veterans, while allowing young workers to opt out. Block grants Medicaid and other welfare programs to allow States the flexibility and ingenuity they need to solve their own unique problems without harming those currently relying on the programs.
CUTTING GOVERNMENT WASTE:
Makes a 10% reduction in the federal workforce, slashes Congressional pay and perks, and curbs excessive federal travel. To stand with the American People, President Paul will take a salary of $39,336, approximately equal to the median personal income of the American worker.
TAXES:
Lowers the corporate tax rate to 15%, making America competitive in the global market. Allows American companies to repatriate capital without additional taxation, spurring trillions in new investment. Extends all Bush tax cuts. Abolishes the Death Tax. Ends taxes on personal savings, allowing families to build a nest egg.
REGULATION:
Repeals ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, and Sarbanes-Oxley. Mandates REINS-style requirements for thorough congressional review and authorization before implementing any new regulations issued by bureaucrats. President Paul will also cancel all onerous regulations previously issued by Executive Order.
MONETARY POLICY:
Conducts a full audit of the Federal Reserve and implements competing currency legislation to
strengthen the dollar and stabilize inflation.
CONCLUSION:
Dr. Paul is the only candidate with a plan to cut spending and truly balance the budget. This is the only plan that will deliver what America needs in these difficult times: Major regulatory relief, large spending cuts, sound monetary policy, and a balanced budget.
Here are the budget comparisons
LOOK AT DAT DEFECIT!
BTW, let me get this straight..re: Romney, Gingrich and Santorum
It makes no sense to invest in gov't health care due to budget concerns, but we should add more to the budget of the military? wtf?
Can there be naked chicks presenting the graphs next time, dr. love?
I think it would really help me remember dr. paul's political views .
Last edited by Unchainme; 02-22-2012 at 09:52 PM.
Okay I dare you to explain what you just posted, Dr. Love....
Please show your work
Let me break it down for you.
High number bad!
Low number good!
Wow...
Ron Paul just CALLED ME OUT
Lounge, this thread wouldn't be the same without you.
It'd be at least 30 posts shorter.
And alot less funny.......
I'll have you know I spend a good 2 minutes copying and pasting those charts!
And a whole minute skimming them as well!
It's hearing...
what was that?
did anyone see the intro on CNN? I got confused for a sec. and thought for a sec was watching an intro for the AFC Championship game or something.
Nitro was right..Politics has become some bizarre ass sport where we cheer on the home team.
Current delegate projections from the Ron Paul campaign
Total Delegates...|.IA.|.NH..|.SC.|.FL.|.NV.|.MN.|.CO.|. ME.|
Romney:|...93.....|.6..|...7..|..2..|.50.|.14..|.. 2..|..7..|..5..|
Paul:|........82.....|.13.|...3..|..0..|..0..|..5. |.28..|..17.|.16.|
Gingrich:|...29.....|.0..|...0..|.23.|..0..|..6..| ..0...|..0..|..0..|
Santorum:|.25.....|.6..|...0..|..0..|..0..|..3..|. .7...|..9..|..0..|
This is based on how much they believe they will get in delegates based on confirmed precinct delegates.
"I'm real Ron, I'm real."
"Congratulations."
lol.
As Elvis says... Stay Frothy now
Boom, CNN confirms Ron Paul, 2nd in delegate count (and a close 2nd)
Last edited by Dr. Love; 02-23-2012 at 01:14 AM.
Who won the debate?
Frothy lost from what I've read so far.
Didn't watch it.
Then let me help you out!
Oh man.......me and my big mouth
OMG!
Ron Paul the delegate hunter
yikes!
http://www.policymic.com/articles/45.../category_listRon Paul Wins CNN Arizona Republican Debate
In the final Republican debate before Super Tuesday, and perhaps the last of the race, Texas Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) made quick work of his opponents.
Though not known for his stellar oratory abilities or powerful stage presence, the libertarian gadfly stood out among the remaining candidates during Wednesday night's contest for the same reason he has been able to stay in the race thus far: his consistent and convincing defense of free markets and small government.
Paul opened his time by defending his criticism of Santorum as fake fiscal conservative. In response to CNN moderator John King's question, "Why did you call Senator Santorum a fake fiscal conservative?" Paul quipped, "Because he's a fake!" After the massive applause died down, Paul pointed out that most politicians are fiscal hawks during their campaigns, but they tend to be far less principled once elected. Santorum, who admitted he wouldn't cut defense spending, and supported dozens of federal spending increases while in Congress, perfectly fits this description.
During a slap fight that broke out over earmarks between the frontrunners, Paul was criticized for sending federal money back to his district. Paul rightly pointed out that he earmarks funds for his district because the money would otherwise be spent on wars and bank bailouts by the Executive Branch. Though he prefers the money not be taken from taxpayers in the first place, Paul argued that earmarks ensure that some of the money is sent back to the people who it actually belongs to.
On the auto bailout, Paul argued that all bailouts are economically harmful because they represent legalized theft. "Do we praise bank robbers if they are successful?" As many economists have long argued, Paul pointed out that bailouts save failing businesses at the expense of the rest of the economy, and that letting companies like General Motors fail is necessary if the economy is going to recover.
Should the government be involved in issues like contraception? Paul says no, because that's where the problem arises. Congress legislates morality; people of differing religious persuasions then fight incessantly over whose morality will be the law of the land. Much like abortion or gay marriage, the answer, according to Paul, is to return the decision to use birth control, and the cost of using it, to states and individuals.
The Texas congressman also laid into Santorum for voting for Planned Parenthood while claiming to be a pro-life Senator. Santorum didn't deny the charge, but justified his vote by claiming that he authored legislation that would fund abstinence only education. Paul responded, "There's always an excuse for the spending."
Paul used a question about immigration to criticize our foreign policy of "worrying about the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan." He also claimed that we need to eliminate the incentives, mainly welfare, that encourage people to immigrate to America illegally. Meanwhile, the rest of the candidates argued over how to successfully arrest Mexican immigrants and build big fences along the southern border.
While Santorum, Romney, and Gingrich stuck to the neoconservative line that we have to keep building our military and policing the Middle East, Paul, following a long line of foreign policy experts, explained that we need to stop fighting aggressive wars and consider our role in fostering the rise of violent dictators around the world.
Because our influence in the region, and the fact that Iran doesn't have a nuclear bomb, Paul also claimed that the likelihood of Iran starting a nuclear war is minuscule. He also highlighted the enormous costs of an aggressive foreign policy, citing the Soviets as an example of what happens to countries that overextend themselves abroad.
All of the candidates took reasonable stances on education policy. Each correctly took shots at teacher unions and argued that the federal Department of Education needs to be reformed. But as Paul opined, the other three contenders didn't go far enough. Education should be a state and local issue, a position no other Republican on the stage consistently defended while in office.
At this point in the race, it's unlikely that Paul will win the Republican nomination, trailing far beyond Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum as he is. But after tonight's debate, the Texas congressman has illustrated why he's the best choice. If Republican voters, supposed conservatives, can't see that, then they deserve the champion of big government that their next president will be.
Paul mopped the floor with Frothy but really that's like winning a debate with a retarded person
What's not in the video is the big purse fight that happened between Romney, Newt and Santorum. Let me see if I can find a clip of it.
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