ron paul=awesome/kickass?

[Dr. Love]

He may not be racist but he's definitely a homophobe!


http://www.anyclip.com/movies/bruno/ron-paul-interview/

In Texas, he's lucky he didn't get shot (and I doubt anyone would have convicted Ron Paul if he had shot him).

[Dr. Love]

ron paul reaction

[Seshmeister]

In Texas, he's lucky he didn't get shot (and I doubt anyone would have convicted Ron Paul if he had shot him).

Shot just for misreading the signs?

[Dr. Love]

I think, watching the video, an invitation to a bedroom with a guy that puts on music, lights candles, starts dancing and then disrobes (and blocks the door) ... in Texas, yeah, that could very well get you severely hurt, and most citizens would not really blame the person for feeling threatened/protecting themselves.

Regardless, I've been watching more of the news lately and they are finally talking about Ron Paul but only to try to smear him further, claiming that he appeals only to a fringe element and that he doesn't have any real support in the US (despite being 20%+ in Iowa ... that's a huge fringe). Furthermore, they are trying very hard to make his votes look anti-minority/anti-gay by framing it as "Ron Paul votes against Rosa Parks getting the Congressional Gold Medal" when in fact he was voting against the government paying for it ... offering and challenging his fellow congressman to put forward money out of their own pockets to pay for it instead of paying for it with taxpayer money. Same thing with saying that Ron Paul supports laws against homosexuality. He believes the states should be able to pass their own laws and the federal government should be limited to it's constitutional mandate. No realistic person believes that a state will pass an ardently anti-homosexual law, but it's a nice way to twist the position to fit the agenda to commit slander and libel against him.

Again, why? Because his positions threaten to take power away from the powerful, to undermine and dismantle the establishment, and take the country down a path where the entrenched interests will lose power and influence. Ignoring him didn't undermine his traction, dismissing him didn't undermine his traction. So, now they will attack him.

The unfortunate thing is, he's not a very eloquent speaker, so he may have a harder time defending himself.

[Dr. Love]

I could go on at length, but perhaps it's better for you guys to read up on his political positions yourselves, and make up your own minds and not let a news channel tell you what to think. Here's a good place to start, as it will help give a lot more direct quote information on his views on many, many things, including racism and homosexuality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul

[Seshmeister]

I think, watching the video, an invitation to a bedroom with a guy that puts on music, lights candles, starts dancing and then disrobes (and blocks the door) ... in Texas, yeah, that could very well get you severely hurt, and most citizens would not really blame the person for feeling threatened/protecting themselves.

I was only kidding I don't think Paul did anything wrong but violence never mind extreme violence in those circumstances says more about the person having doubts about their own sexuality than anything else.

Change the sex of Ron Paul in the scenario to female then she is far more vulnerable being physically weaker. If a girl went willingly into a bedroom with a guy with a film crew in an adjoining room it would be ok if she shot him the minute he dropped his pants?

[Nickdfresh]

He may not be racist but he's definitely a homophobe!


http://www.anyclip.com/movies/bruno/ron-paul-interview/

There's an article around stating that most gays don't have a huge problem with Paul as his record regarding basic civil liberties is good...

[knuckleboner]

I could go on at length, but perhaps it's better for you guys to read up on his political positions yourselves, and make up your own minds and not let a news channel tell you what to think. Here's a good place to start, as it will help give a lot more direct quote information on his views on many, many things, including racism and homosexuality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...ns_of_Ron_Paul

i've studied up a bit on ron paul. i definitely believe he's sincere. moreso than most, if not all members of congress. good for him. that said, sincerity, by itself, does not make up for absolutely loony economic policies, no matter how much you really believe in them.

my favorite is his, "let's let every American make up their own form of currency." because, the one thing this economy needs right now is 300 million potential exchange rates...

[sadaist]

You do realize that this place is populated with the most far left liberal mofo's on the face of the earth?

Makes it interesting & fun for me. Otherwise we would just have threads with a hundred posts of "I agree".

[Dr. Love]

my favorite is his, "let's let every American make up their own form of currency." because, the one thing this economy needs right now is 300 million potential exchange rates...

link/source?

[jhale667]

I know racism is your hot button. I just think it's unfortunate that you let others press it and manipulate you with it.

I don't. And I've done my research on Dr. Paul. While I agree with him about ending the wars and a couple of other things, he'absolutely batshit on social issues. He also just picked up an endorsement from a zealot preacher who's most well-known for saying gays should be executed. Not helping his case...

[Nitro Express]

You would never hear these allegations come out if Ron Paul didn't have a chance at becoming the next president. I think the way the Republican establishment has treated him has been shameful. If you want war with Iran. More corporate bailouts. More debt. Go ahead and vote for the other Republicans. If you want a neocon agenda with a more socialist flavor, leave Obama in. Ron Paul is the only candidate to start focusing on this country instead of running 800 overseas bases, letting a private bank screw us, and bailing out corporations that should just go broke due to their own incompetence.

It's going to get nasty. I hope nobody shoots him.

[Dr. Love]

I don't. And I've done my research on Dr. Paul. While I agree with him about ending the wars and a couple of other things, he'absolutely batshit on social issues. He also just picked up an endorsement from a zealot preacher who's most well-known for saying gays should be executed. Not helping his case...

On the social issues, he's all about personal freedom and liberty, and about making sure that the federal government cannot tell you what you can/can't do ... only local and state governments would be able to legislate things like that. He wants to keep the federal government out of everything about your personal lives. Unless you mean abortion?

I could certainly understand and agree if you said his views on regulations were crazy, but on the social side, I don't understand. What do you disagree with in particular?

As for the preacher ... well, I'm not voting for a preacher, I'm voting for a President to start fixing things (not perpetuate the problem). I couldn't care less what the preacher thinks unless the candidate tells me he agrees with it. And given his record on the homosexuality issue, I extremely doubt he agrees with the preacher.

[Nitro Express]

I don't. And I've done my research on Dr. Paul. While I agree with him about ending the wars and a couple of other things, he'absolutely batshit on social issues. He also just picked up an endorsement from a zealot preacher who's most well-known for saying gays should be executed. Not helping his case...

You can't run on a right wing ticket and not have some bat shit. Obama got some crazy backing too. If you want to nit pick you can dig dirt on anyone or connect some dots to some unsavory sources. Liberatarians tend to be hands off on social issues and a lot of right wing fringe lean that way. You are going to get some snake handlers give you a donation.

I look at the bigger picture. I want the Federal Reserve audited and I don't want war with Iran. Israel is not our friend and it's time to start rebuilding the US instead of policing the whole world with 800 overseas bases. I could care less about a little bat shit in the pool.

[FORD]

Despite all of this, Ron Paul apparently had a good day today, as two key members of the Batshit Bachmann team defected to his camp. You know that's gotta hurt, 5 days before the fucking Iowa caucus