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Oh, FFS....One ELBOW wallowing in lameness... 
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Originally posted by conmee
If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.
That is all.
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I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667
Originally posted by Isaac R.
Then it's really true??:eek:
The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???
OMFG...who in their right mind...???
Originally posted by eddie78
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“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”― Stephen HawkingComment
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I hate Leno, but Ron Paul did pretty well!
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haha suck it santorum!
Santorum supporters shocked, angered at Greene County Caucus
Ron Paul walks away with 59 percent of delegates, Romney 36 percent, Santorum 5 percent
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. -- At times, the Greene County Republican Caucus on Saturday seemed to teeter on the brink of chaos.
"Madam Chairman, this is not Russia! This is America!" cried one woman into the microphone in the University Plaza Convention Center's center aisle.
From the moment the doors opened at 8 a.m., it was clear supporters of candidate Ron Paul were playing for keeps. Many wore hunter orange, with the ring leaders sporting Secret Service-style listening devices in their ears tied to two-way radios. Long time party members commented more than once that they had never seen so many young people at a Republican caucus.
Ten hours later, when the the caucus was gaveled to a close, Paul had collected 65 delegates, an overwhelming majority of Greene County's 111 delegates going to the next round of caucuses. Rick Santorum got six.
Winning Missouri's meaningless primary in February may have been the worst thing to happen to Santorum. His supporters, while enthusiastic and vocal, were outmaneuvered and out-prepared by the Paul camp, who had read the rules and played their caucus hand like an ace-high straight.
Along the way, Paul's supporters cut a deal with the Mitt Romney circle, a move that proved to be the caucus' ultimate master stroke.
Tom Fowler, the leader of the Romney supporters, spent years as Missouri's Republican Chairman. Few in the room were as familiar with both the caucus process and how to make the most of what support you have. By teaming with the Paul camp, Romney came away with 40 delegates, 36 percent of the total.
In the end, the caucus unfolded much like an eight-hour episode episode of CBS's "Survivor." With Newt Gingrich skipping Missouri (he was not on the primary ballot), Santorum was outflanked by the Romney/Paul alliance. The final vote was 407-353. The tribe had spoken.
As the writing on the wall became clear, Santorum supporters became increasingly incensed.
"You're out of order!" caucus chairwoman Danette Proctor repeated over and over as the Santorum uprising reached the center aisle microphone.
Many with Santorum stickers said their piece, then left in disgust before the final vote, the ultimate outcome already a foregone conclusion.
"We're one of the most conservative counties in the state," said one disgusted delegate who asked not to be identified. "How in the (heck) did we end up giving almost all of our delegates to the two least conservative candidates?"
That question was not limited to Greene County. In other county caucuses across the state, Paul's supporters used caucus rules and alliances to walk away with far more than establishment Republicans thought they "deserved."
"I apologized to my party, to the entire caucus," said Dallas County Republican Committee Chair Jack Dill. "We were tipped off that something like this was going to happen, and sure enough (it did)."
But rules are rules. And that's how a caucus works. It is not a primary.
"And that's wrong," said Dill. "We (the Missouri Republican Party) made a mistake not having a primary that counted. I hope that never happens again."
Missouri's Republican Party chairman released a statement on Saturday evening in the face of disagreements across the state, including a spat over a video camera at a St. Louis-area caucus that led to two arrests and the caucus shutting down before it even started.
“Reports coming in from across the state indicate that a vast majority of the Missouri caucuses were well run and well attended," said David Cole, chairman of the Missouri Republican Party. "While it is natural that supporters of different candidates will disagree, in most cases, these disagreements were handled in a civil manner."Comment
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i'm curious. how is he socialist?
the private health insurance companies' stocks went up after the health care law passed, because the private market's getting more customers. sounds capitalistic to me.
the government provided money to the banks and has recouped that investment plus interest. sounds capitalistic to me.
the government invested in the auto industry and is actively selling off their shares to recoup. they could sell them all at once, but that would flood the market and depress the price, so they're doing it gradually to increase the chance of a profit. sounds capitalistic to me.
the government invested in AIG and almost certainly will not get all it's money back. ok, so this is socialism? a bad investment?...Comment
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I'd like to personally congratulate RON PAUL........
For making The Newt irrelevant......Originally posted by KristyOriginally posted by cadaverdogComment
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No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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the rEVOLution is on!
Ron Paul supports take over the party in Warren County Virginia
Rift opens between Ron Paul backers, other Republicans
FRONT ROYAL -- A rift has opened between Ron Paul supporters and other Republican party members after a divisive power struggle Thursday that led one committee member to publicly resign and declare himself an independent.
Tim Ratigan said he walked out of a mass meeting of the Warren County party committee in protest of what he called on his Facebook page "unethical and immoral behavior" by a group intent on claiming the chairmanship and vice chairmanship posts.
"I wouldn't call them Republicans," Ratigan said in an interview Tuesday. "I would call them libertarians attempting to take over the Republican Party of Warren County."
As a result of the meeting, Ratigan said, he has declared himself an independent, although he will continue to support conservative candidates in future races. Ratigan is running for mayor of Front Royal, an officially non-partisan position.
Rattan's version of events at the party meeting was supported by two other party leaders, neither of whom spoke for attribution. At least two other committee members resigned, Ratigan and one of the other party, leaders said.
All three said Paul supporters have launched similar efforts in other parts of the state and nation and warned committee members in neighboring counties to expect to meet strong challenges by Paul supporters in the near future.
An ABC television news blog reported that a feud between Paul supporters and Republican leaders at a major caucus in Missouri on Saturday led the organizers to shut down the event.
Paul carried Warren County in the Virginia Republican presidential primary while losing statewide to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
Ratigan and one of the other party leaders said around 100 people attended Thursday's meeting. The party's committee website described the purpose of the meeting as electing the top committee leadership and up to 290 delegates to the 6th Congressional District Convention scheduled for May 5 in Lexington. The convention will then elect three delegates and three alternates to the Republican National Convention in Tampa in August.
Ratigan and the two other party leaders said they and the Paul supporters share the same basic beliefs in limited government. Ratigan said his objections to the Paul supporters stem from their efforts to overturn party rules and standard operating procedures.
"Don't get me wrong," Ratigan said. "Everybody has a right to be a Republican, but there's a right way to go about achieving your goals, and there's a wrong way."
The committee is trying to organize another meeting at which another attempt will be made to elect new officers. No date has been set.
first the precincts, then the districts, now the counties... next the states!Comment
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GOP gunna be sneaky, RP campaign predicts it will carry several state delegations
GOP Insiders Suggest Ron Paul Cannot Legally Be Part Of RNC Ballot
Rule does not mean Paul cannot be part of the convention, or win in a brokered situation
GOP insiders are beginning to float the idea that Congressman Ron Paul cannot legally be on the first ballot at the national convention in Tampa this August because he will not have enough delegates from enough states.
USA Today carries a report that suggests both Paul and Newt Gingrich will not be able to get on the first ballot because they may not have a plurality of delegates from at least five states by the time the convention comes around.
Appearing on MSNBC News, Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee, cited Rule No. 40, Section B in the Republican National Committee rulebook, which states:
Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a plurality of the delegates from each of five (5) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of the candidate for nomination.
“So when these candidates are adding up their delegates or when people out there have a particular issue that they would like to move at the convention, they had better make sure they at least have a plurality of five states to make these things happen,” Priebus said on MSNBC’s Daily Rundown.
Of course, Ron Paul’s strategy is to win more unbound delegates, and it is still possible that he could win a plurality of delegates from five states.
Paul campaign chairman Jesse Benton has said that the campaign anticipates meeting the five-state threshold, saying in an email that “we are well positioned to carry WA, MN, AK, ND and ME among several others.”
It is also important to note that the rule does not mean that Paul’s delegates will not be able to take part in the convention.
It is still possible that even if Paul’s delegates cannot vote for their candidate on the first ballot, they could do so on subsequent ballots if the Congressman garners the support of a plurality of delegates from at least five states during the floor fight.
This was the possible situation Paul referred to on the Jay Leno show this week when he said “The second go around, they can go with their conscience… then, I believe, we’ll get a lot of the votes.”
Indeed, it is possible for Paul, Gingrich, or any other presidential candidate for that matter, to get on the ballot after the first round and still be able to win the GOP nomination.
Randy Evans, a Gingrich adviser, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that the idea that Rule 40, Section B is “a legal prerequisite is a falsehood.”
We'll see as the caucuses wind up how many states RP winds up carrying.Comment
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RP polls best against Obama - again
RP ties Obama with independents... if the GOP wants to win in November, they need to stop being so batshit crazy!Obama leads GOP field by small margins
PPP's newest national poll finds Barack Obama leading all of his potential Republican opponents, although by slightly smaller margins than he did a month ago.
In the most likely match up Obama leads Mitt Romney 48-44. In February Obama's advantage was 7 points at 49-42. The main difference is that Romney is now taking 15% of the Democratic vote, up from 10% he was getting a month ago.
When Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson is included Obama's lead expands to 7 points at 46-39, with Johnson taking 7%. 39% of Johnson voters would support Romney if Johnson wasn't in the picture, while only 18% would go for Obama. I doubt Johnson will really get anywhere close to 7% in the general, but the numbers do make it clear that Obama's base is more committed to him than Romney's is and that any half serious third party bid is more likely to hurt Romney's support.
Reversing a trend of falling favorability numbers Romney's net favorability is -25 this month at 33/58. That's actually a slight improvement from -28 a month ago at 29/57. To put those numbers into some perspective though, we were asked on Twitter this morning whether Romney or George W. Bush is more popular. The answer is Bush by a wide margin. Last month we found 45% of voters rating him favorably to 46% with a negative opinion.
The difference is mainly among Republicans. Bush is at 79/15 with them compared to 49/42 for Romney and there's a good chance once Romney locks up the nomination that the party will unify around him and he'll get closer to Bush. But Bush also does better with independents (36/50 to Romney's 29/58) and they're about equal among Democrats with Romney at 20/71 and Bush at 19/73.
Romney is actually not the most electable Republican candidate on this poll. Ron Paul and Rick Santorum both do a point better than him, trailing by 3 points at 46-43 and 48-45 respectively. As we often find to be the case Paul is the strongest candidate with independents, tying Obama with them while the rest of the GOP field trails by 6-15 points. The reason Santorum does better than Romney is a slightly more unified Republican base, getting 81% of his party vote to 78% for Romney.
The only Republican who doesn't improve on the margin of John McCain's loss in 2008 is Newt Gingrich, who trails by 8 points at 50-42. Only 28% of voters have a favorable opinion of Gingrich to 61% with a negative one.
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