Gotta love one of the biggest Rethuglican douchebags on the site talking about other people's "ilk"....
Gotta love one of the biggest Rethuglican douchebags on the site talking about other people's "ilk"....
Yes, I bitch-slapped you again. Getting' mad, huh?
http://www.lvrj.com/news/heller-unit...142194615.htmlPaul supporters seize control of Clark County GOP party
BY LAURA MYERS
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Posted: Mar. 10, 2012 | 10:48 a.m.
Supporters of GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul on Saturday effectively took control of the Clark County Republican Party by winning election to 14 executive board positions, or two-thirds of the ruling body.
The election came during the county GOP convention where Paul delegates dominated, winning as many as half of the 1,382 delegates nominated to the state convention May 2-4 in Sparks.
Paul supporters chanted "Paul, Paul, Paul" as the new executive board took the stage.
"This is the grass roots taking a stand to change the direction of the party from the county level," said Carl Bunce, Nevada chairman of Paul's campaign and a delegate. "This is bigger than just Ron Paul. This is about liberty and openness and fairness and changing the party."
Bunce said Paul supporters share the same goal as the other Republican candidates: to defeat President Barack Obama in the fall no matter who becomes the GOP nominee.
Still, the Paul factor could complicate things at the state convention for Mitt Romney, the GOP front-runner who won the Feb. 4 GOP presidential caucus in Nevada with 50 percent of the vote. He's still struggling to sew up the nomination.
Four years ago, Paul backers tried to take over the state convention, which GOP leaders shut down in response.
The 2012 state GOP convention will elect 28 delegates to the Republican National Convention this summer in Tampa, Fla.
Romney earned 14 of those delegates because of his 50 percent caucus finish. The rest of the delegates also were awarded proportionally, depending on the percentage of the caucus vote that each candidate won in Nevada.
■ Newt Gingrich got 21 percent of the caucus vote to pick up six delegates.
■ Paul won 19 percent for five delegates.
■ Rick Santorum won 10 percent for three delegates.
Bunce said Paul supporters would follow the rules, which require the 28 delegates elected at the state level to attend the national convention and be bound on the first ballot to vote in line with the GOP caucus winning percentages.
That could mean a Paul delegate would have to vote for Romney on the first ballot if he's the GOP nominee based on delegates won during the primary season. However, a contested convention could lead to more than one ballot, and delegates could then switch to other candidates.
"I don't view it as taking over the convention," Bunce said in an interview as he worked the halls to boost participation of Paul backers. "We will have delegate enhancement."
Ryan Erwin, a Romney campaign adviser in Nevada, said plenty of the former Massachusetts governor's supporters attended the county convention and he's confident the delegate selection process will be fair for all candidates.
"We feel good about our support here," Erwin said, adding he's sure Romney will be awarded the 14 Nevada delegates to the national convention as deserved. "Our goal is to have a transparent process and not have a repeat of what happened in 2008, which wasn't good for anybody."
Paul's backers made their presence known on the convention floor when Clark County GOP Chairman Dave Gibbs asked supporters for each candidate to stand to show support as the meeting began in the morning.
More than half the room stood and cheered for Paul compared to about one-third for Romney, dozens for Gingrich and fewer for Santorum.
Gibbs then asked how many Republicans want to oust Obama, and the convention-goers returned a united cheer. He said he wanted to demonstrate that although the GOP convention-goers are backing different Republicans now, the party will ultimately unite to put a Republican in the White House.
"I think the competition sharpens the candidates," Gibbs said in an interview, comparing the GOP nomination fight to preseason games. "It gets people excited and more familiar with who the candidates are. I think it's good for the party."
Gibbs said he wasn't too concerned by Paul supporters getting elected Saturday to all 14 executive board seats open. As chairman of the county party, he's one of seven official executive board members serving two-year terms. Those seven seats on the 21-member board weren't up for election Saturday.
"They showed up and they voted. That's why you have an election," Gibbs said. "The whole point is to get Republicans elected. That's my entire focus."
More than 3,000 Republicans attended the county GOP convention at The Orleans .
U.S. Sen. Dean Heller kicked off the meeting by slamming his Senate opponent, Democratic U.S. Rep. Shelley Berkley, and by making fun of Obama.
Heller said in his travels across Nevada during the past six to eight weeks to attend GOP Lincoln Day dinners, he asked people, "What are the things that scare President Obama?"
On the list, Heller said, is people who pay their taxes, a bank not owned by the government, a balanced budget, a town hall meeting where not everyone is a Democrat, and people who pay their mortgages.
Heller also turned on its head Obama's 2008 presidential campaign slogan, saying the thing the Democrat fears most is that, "the change that you believe in will be the Republican slogan in 2012."
The line drew applause from more than 3,000 convention-goers at The Orleans who filled a ballroom and two overflow rooms.
As for Berkley, Heller criticized his Senate rival without naming the congresswoman, who is running neck and neck with him in the early opinion polls.
"The difference between myself and my opponent will be this: I will be running on my record and she will be running away from her record," Heller said, calling himself a low-tax, small-government, free-market capitalist who wants reasonable regulations.
Heller said Berkley has voted for $15 trillion in new debt spending, for bank and auto industry bailouts and for Obama's GOP-opposed stimulus package and his health care reform that Republicans want to repeal.
The Heller-Berkley contest will be one of the hardest fought in the nation as Democrats try to maintain control of the Senate and the GOP works to win the majority as they did in the House in the 2010 election.
"We can change this country," Heller said near the end of his speech of less than 10 minutes. "We can change the United States presidency. And we can change the makeup of the United States Senate right here in this room, starting today. So I need your help."
U.S. Rep. Joe Heck, R-Nev., delivered the keynote address to the crowd. He aimed his fire at Obama and the Democratic-controlled Senate run by U.S. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev.
Heck said the GOP-run House had passed 30 pieces of jobs legislation and a budget, but the Senate hasn't acted. He also decried the rising price of gasoline, now nearly $4 a gallon.
Heck mocked Obama's "we can't wait" series of executive orders and actions he has taken to get around Republicans in Congress who oppose his policies, which the president says is aimed at continuing the economic recovery.
"We can't wait for a leader in the White House," Heck said, earning a round of applause and heavy cheers. "There's a lot of buyer's remorse left over from the 2008 election."
The Nevada Democratic Party officials sneered at the GOP confab.
"What Nevadans didn't hear today is that instead of focusing on jobs, Dean Heller and Washington Republicans are pursuing an anti-middle class, pro-Wall Street agenda that kills Medicare by turning it over to private insurance companies to pay for more taxpayer giveaways to Big Oil," said Zach Hudson, spokesman for the Nevada Democratic Party.
"And while President Obama is fighting to create jobs and help struggling families keep a roof over their heads, Mitt Romney spent his career shipping American jobs overseas as a corporate layoff specialist and told Nevadans facing foreclosure they need to 'hit the bottom.' Nevadans will have a clear choice in this election between Democrats who are committed to creating jobs and Republicans who are prioritizing Wall Street billionaires over Nevada families."
Contact reporter Laura Myers at lmyers@reviewjournal .com or 702-387-2919. Follow her on Twitter @lmyerslvrj.
Romney better hope he gets it in the first round of voting or he will start losing delegates.
That's fine, we'll flip several states to RP wins if he takes the majority of the delegates after the caucus process, then.Ron Paul Just Won A Caucus But The Media Is Telling You Mitt Romney Did
Michael Brendan Dougherty | Mar. 11, 2012, 10:51 AM | 4,171 | 36
AP
Ron Paul won the GOP caucus in the Virgin Islands, or at least he won the most votes according to the Virgin Islands Republican Party.
Right now the count stands this way:
384 total cast
112 to Paul (29%)
101 to Romney (26%)
23 to Santorum (6%)
18 to Gingrich (5%)
But as with all caucuses it isn't that simple.
The AP and others reported yesterday that Mitt Romney won the Virgin Islands caucus.
And they aren't entirely wrong, because of the crazy rules that are around caucuses, Mitt Romney was able to qualify for more delegates, and win them. One of the "uncommitted" delegates also went to Romney.
So maybe the media isn't entirely unjustified in saying Romney won it.
But we think they buried the real story.
The Paul campaign should celebrate this small victory! It is the first territory where Paul has clearly beaten Romney in a popular vote, no matter how small.
-via Jesse Walker
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-p...#ixzz1opg78PWd
more proof that Ron Paul is racist (for jhale):
http://gprr.blogspot.com/2012/03/inv...27n%27+Roll%29Invasion Of The Paul People
It's a Ron Paul world, and we all just live in it.
The Story County Republican convention was a longer affair than Tara's convention, because of a phenomenon I call, "invasion of the Paul people!"
To review: the Iowa caucus is basically a statewide straw poll. Despite the results, delegates go to the district and state convention and vote for their own personal favorite for president.
If there are TWO things at which Ron Paul supporters excel, it is winning online polls and showing up for stuff. And since the world is run by people who show up, the Paul campaign is attempting to get as many delegates elected to the state convention as possible...thus winning the official Iowa delegate count despite the fact that Santorum and Romney finished first and second in the Iowa caucus, respectively.
A friend told me at the Story County GOP convention that he believed just under half of the attendees were Paul supporters. And a delegate that was identified to me as a Paul supporter was literally reading suggested motions off of her iPhone. Whether you love the Paul campaign or not, they have their act together.
The Paul supporter made motions to seat delegates as they arrived (even if they were late), then motioned that any Republican sitting in the room could vote (because county parties rarely fill their allotted county convention seats this was an ingenious move).
A counter motion by another candidate's supporter stated that county delegates must be proportioned according to the county caucus results. This motion HAD to be voted down...because one county can't change a statewide process. Quite simply, delegates are free to vote for the candidate of their choice at state convention.
That may not be the most perfect process in future contests (especially given the caucus night debacle) but it is what exists currently, and the Paul people are taking advantage of it. I wonder how many Paul delegates are headed to the district, and state, convention, and if Ron Paul will be able to pull off an Iowa surprise.
Finally: a Santorum supporter at the Polk County convention posted on Facebook that she was experiencing a "Ron Paul supporter freakout." So the phenomenon was not restricted to my county.
There's a little bit of Adolf Hitler in everyone. We all have that little dictator screaming to get out.
How sad really, that the biggest bible-thumper here has to ask from where the MORAL OBLIGATIONS come from......
Wow.
That's why I belong to the Church of Satan. I like the "Do as thy Wilt" motto. The only thing I wish is there were better looking women at the OTO lodge orgies. The only thing I'm morally obligated to do is to satisfy my own selfish desires through any means necessary.
Unfortunately according to some of you guys, we don't live in a country where we help the less fortunate out of the goodness of our hearts (or even out of some religious moral obligation).
People like RP are a throwback to yesteryear!
Now all we should expect are Presidents who destroy our civil liberties and believe that the military should be able to arrest and detain us indefinitely (when they don't choose to summarily execute/assassinate us instead).
You guys sure do hold the moral high ground!
The US is just divided now. I can tell you which side will bite the dust hard and which side will thrive. That's a no brainer. If your community works together during a crises it will thrive, if your community goes ape shit on each other if the government checks don't come, you have problems.
Excuse me, but didn't RP say at one of the GOP Debates when asked, that if a guy came into an ER with life-threatening illness, but NO insurance he should be turned away?
Don't lecture me on RP's moral high ground.
I believe FREE HEALTHCARE is a moral obligation due every citizen of this country.
maybe I should lecture you on either your memory or your ability to understand what people are saying then
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...thcare-moment/Ron Paul on debate's health care moment
Posted by
CNN's Kevin Liptak
Washington (CNN) - Rep. Ron Paul was at the center of one of the most memorable moments of Monday night's "CNN-Tea Party Republican Debate" when a member of the audience shouted "Yeah!" in response to a question asking whether a critically ill person without health insurance should be left to die.
In an interview Wednesday the Texas congressman, who was being asked the question when the outburst happened, responded to critics who said his response lacked compassion.
"You know, it's so overly simplified to explain a full philosophy on how you care for people in 30 or 60 seconds," Paul said Wednesday on CNN Newsroom.
Paul continued, "The freer the system, the better the health care. For somebody to turn around and say there's one individual who didn't have this care, you know, all of a sudden you hate people and you're going to let them die? I spent a lifetime in medicine. To turn that around like that is foolish."
Paul went on to say that of all the Republican presidential contenders, he was uniquely positioned to speak out on the government's role in providing medical care. Paul is a licensed medical doctor specializing in obstetrics and gynecology.
"I understand it differently," Paul said. "I want the maximum medical care and the maximum prosperity for everybody, and it doesn't come from the big government welfare and bankruptcies that we have now."
He continued, "Nobody can compete with me about compassion because I know and understand how free markets and sound money and a sensible foreign policy are the most compassionate systems ever known to mankind."
So no, all he said was that it doesn't have to be run by the government to be effective and for people to continue to receive care, but that at the same time, people should be responsible for their own decisions and should be free to make those decisions.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...o-free-market/WILLIAMS: End Fed’s power; give it to free market
By Armstrong Williams Sunday, March 11, 2012 Armstrong Williams (Courtesy of armstrongwilliams.com)
Ron Paul wants to abolish the Federal Reserve. He may be right: It is hard to see how the Fed has enhanced our economy.
Since 1971, when President Nixon ended the gold standard, the dollar’s value has been more volatile than in any previous period, not only in immediate, day-to-day volatility, but also over the long run. People often marvel that a loaf of bread used to cost a dime, but they never ask why so much inflation has occurred over these past few decades.
There are several reasons, but the biggest is undoubtedly the Fed. By devaluing the dollar, like China is doing to the yuan, the Fed and its technocrats try to encourage our exports. But as we know, the market will not permit distortions, and will punish them: This is bad policy.
Quantitative easing, author Louis Lehrman says, is just “a euphemism for money printing or credit creation.” These excess dollars go abroad as reserves, and are then invested in U.S. securities to finance the deficit. So, we receive back what we give out: We buy without paying. If economic growth were this easy, why stop printing money?
The Fed creates demand for goods and assets without increasing supply. This is a recipe for crippling inflation; it is an insult to hard-working Americans who want to pass down their wealth to their children and not see it turn to worthless paper.
Thus has the Fed has not only fed our consumer culture by financing the national debt, and discouraging savings by weakening the dollar, but it has also masked the problem of vanishing American exports, making the situation look better than it really is. How ironic that this veneer of health is actually helping foreign imports!
One of the many causes of the Great Recession, from which we are now still struggling to escape, is the seemingly endless Federal Reserve subsidies (that’s what they are) to the world banking system.
Not only did the Fed help cause the recession, but it has slowed the recovery. By keeping interest rates low, they have hurt savers and pension funds, when our nation needs above all more savings. Who wants to save a thousand dollars annually only to receive 25 basis points or $25 a year from their bank?
There is a certain irony that the financial recession was caused by overextended lending in the real-estate sector and the Fed’s solution is to reduce interest rates in that sector of the market. Does the Fed, truly, want to encourage Americans to borrow more money to invest in real estate? Our money supply has about tripled. Is this not an inflation nightmare waiting to happen?
Ron Paul of Texas deserves credit (if you pardon the pun) for raising the question of monetary policy among the general electorate. We must examine the wisdom of its independence from congressional oversight. A more moderate view, one we should all be able to agree on, is that the Federal Reserve must be subject to a public audit of its activities. Surely no one on either side of the aisle thinks it wise to put so much power in the hands of so few without any check or balance.
Steve Forbes, investing and business genius, says that it is almost inevitable that the United States return to the gold standard, which would completely take away the power of the Fed to manipulate the market and manipulate our lives. Another irony is that it is our friends on the left who fear this change and wish to preserve the status quo, afraid of the consequences of restoring convertibility to gold simply because we haven’t done it before.
By taking away the power of the Fed and giving it to the free market, we will all benefit. The market, not even the brightest and best-connected of our technocrats, knows best how to allocate resources.
Mr. Paul is 76, and if John McCain was too old to be president, then so is he. But he has already accomplished a tremendous legacy of energizing young people about liberty, and awakening us all to the quiet power of unelected men and women who tinker with our lives. He will be a symbol for years to come.
that's crazy talk! we can't trust free markets!
Maybe you should turn your lectures towards your failed candidate......
Lecturing me gets you no where....but he obviously could use your help finding a winning strategy that might get noticed.
Because as of now, he's the Sammy Hagar of GOP politics...
Everyone knows he's there, everyone knows he's spouting his mouth off, but he's not getting enough people to care enough to get him out of Chickenfoot.
Ron Paul is in the Chickenfoot of the GOP
Don't be in Chickenfoot.
My, someone had piss in their Cornflakes™ this morning...Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation in which there is a sharp incongruity or discordance that goes beyond the simple and evident intention of words or actions. There is presently no accepted method for textually indicating irony, though an irony (punctuation) mark has been proposed.
Ironic statements (verbal irony) are statements that imply a meaning in opposition to their literal meaning.
Don't worry, you still have a lock on Roth Army's Bitterest Old Man™Stupidity is a quality or state of being stupid, or an act or idea that exhibits properties of being stupid. The root word stupid, which can serve as an adjective or noun, comes from the Latin verb stupere, for being numb or astonished, and is related to stupor: in Roman culture, "the stupidus of the mimes" was a sort of "professional buffoon - the 'fall-man', the eternal he-who-gets-kicked."
Though Lounge is really trying to give you a run for your money.
Last edited by Dr. Love; 03-12-2012 at 09:30 AM.
These girls are shills for the failing status-quo, Doc...
Hahaha! Good one jhale!
Oh Forrest! Your lack of comprehension is only overshadowed by your complete and utter lack of intelligence
I'd point out exactly what the Supreme Court does but I don't think I could dummy it down to Forrest Speak so, I'll stick with what I was actually talking about.
So amending the Constitution doesn't make it a living breathing document? I know it's hard for you to use abstract thought or critical thinking when 99.9999999% of all your posts are in Idiot Speak [to be referred to herein as Forrest Speak] , monosyllabic retorts. I completely understand your inability to expand or even comment on higher concepts because you've been trained in, "Fire bad, hurt Forrest", thought. Having your opinions spoon fed to you in 30 second sound bytes from Rush and BecKKK has affected your debate skills. You only see in black and white....the world is in Technicolor, when you're forced to actually think for yourself your Neanderthal genes take over and you make completely false statements based on prejudices and propaganda.
It's OK Forrest, every village needs it's idiot
I suggest reading the Federalist Papers as to the intent of our Founding Fathers but it has big words soThat's what the vast majority of people of your ilk (and no doubt was your intent)mean when they refer to the Constitution in that way since Constitutional amendments, the only legal way to change the Constitution, are very few and so far in between. suggest you read up on what Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says about the Constitution being a "living, breathing document." Google it and/or read THIS BOOK.
Educated, critical thinking people......yep, that's my ilk.
Reactionary sheep who buy into the, "us against them", "you're either with us or against us", people that have ruined this country, that's your ilk.
Let's look at where the famous, "living, breathing document", philosophy comes from, shall we.......I would play name that quote but that would presuppose you had at least a ninth grade education so......
James Madison, he's one of those commie libs that actually was a Founding Father!I entirely concur in the propriety of resorting to the sense in which the Constitution was accepted and ratified by the nation. In that sense alone it is the legitimate Constitution. And if that is not the guide in expounding it, there may be no security for a consistent and stable, more than for a faithful exercise of its powers. If the meaning of the text be sought in the changeable meaning of the words composing it, it is evident that the shape and attributes of the Government must partake of the changes to which the words and phrases of all living languages are constantly subject. What a metamorphosis would be produced in the code of law if all its ancient phraseology were to be taken in its modern sense.
Thomas Jefferson, another commie lib!"I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
So what you're saying is that the Constitution should live and breathe, be changeable to reflect the times and be a document that faces the current issues, not some relic document that never changes.I suggested to FORD long ago after the 2000 election when he was whining about the Electoral College process that he write his Congressman and ask him to get the ball rolling on sponsoring legislation to change the Constitution with an amendment calling for an end to the EC process and go strictly by a popular vote.
Have a good day, Shortbus!
As usual you're confused about what Amendments are and the function of the Supreme Court in interpreting the laws.....I'd explain that to you but I think I've overloaded you with enough for today!
In summation, it was the intent of the Founding Fathers to make allowances for the evolution of the Constitution, to change as society changes, to function as our compass when issues that effect the American people arise that could not be foreseen by the Founders........or in Forrest Speak, "your a idiot"
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