ron paul=awesome/kickass?

[gbranton]

If somebody could say this who's views I didn't agree with, at least I could respect him.

[kwame k]

I said ad nauseum.....that I can't get behind his deregulate everything and let God sort 'em out policy.

[Seshmeister]

Government Somalia style?

After seeing him in the debate and realising just how old he is it's a pointless argument anyway. Retirement age is 65 for a reason, it's absolutely crazy to vote someone into a 4 year post 10 years after they have passed the retirement age.

He may be fit for 76 but he's still 76. What other professions would you be happy about an 80 year old doing for you?

[Dr. Love]

That argument doesn't really resonate with me ... I support him for the ideas and philosophy, which is ageless...

[ELVIS]

I said ad nauseum.....that I can't get behind his deregulate everything and let God sort 'em out policy.

And Paul never said that...

[Seshmeister]

That argument doesn't really resonate with me ... I support him for the ideas and philosophy, which is ageless...

Fair enough but at 31 what age are your grandparents? Have you seen them decline? It often happens pretty quickly.

[Seshmeister]

And Paul never said that...

That would be his healthcare policy if he could get it through.

[Dr. Love]

Fair enough but at 31 what age are your grandparents? Have you seen them decline? It often happens pretty quickly.

They're in their 70s, and I know what you mean, I've seen it happen to 1 (who died) and another who stopped living in the present when the former died. It's very sad.

[Dr. Love]

That would be his healthcare policy if he could get it through.

I think his policy is best described as ... government can only make things less efficient. Without federal government and the bureaucracy, he feels that private charities, communities and local government can bridge the gap effectively. He is a practicing physician and believes that the people were better able to afford and attain care before the social programs were put in place, and that waste and inefficiency have made it much harder for people to get quality, affordable care.

I have no idea if it's true, having not been around before those programs were enacted. I personally believe there should be some form of safety net for the elderly.

I don't think Ron Paul believes that people in need should be abandoned, but rather that when government becomes the solution, and individuals become dependent on the state, that other, more reliable solutions are overlooked and ultimately not embraced, causing more problems than we could otherwise have had.

There are plenty of examples of when he was practicing medicine in the 60s where he donated his own time and money to provide free care for others, and that the hospital he worked at did the same routinely.

[kwame k]

And Paul never said that...

You know what, E....if you can't keep up with the rest of the class, please don't comment

I'd suggest using Google and type ron+paul+deregulation....but I fear that suggestion would confuse you

[Seshmeister]

I personally believe there should be some form of safety net for the elderly.

That's the bit that costs the most money.

[kwame k]

I think his policy is best described as ... government can only make things less efficient. Without federal government and the bureaucracy, he feels that private charities, communities and local government can bridge the gap effectively. He is a practicing physician and believes that the people were better able to afford and attain care before the social programs were put in place, and that waste and inefficiency have made it much harder for people to get quality, affordable care.

I have no idea if it's true, having not been around before those programs were enacted. I personally believe there should be some form of safety net for the elderly.

I don't think Ron Paul believes that people in need should be abandoned, but rather that when government becomes the solution, and individuals become dependent on the state, that other, more reliable solutions are overlooked and ultimately not embraced, causing more problems than we could otherwise have had.

There are plenty of examples of when he was practicing medicine in the 60s where he donated his own time and money to provide free care for others, and that the hospital he worked at did the same routinely.

Doc...come on, man...really?

Are you that desperate, grasping at straws, that you'd throw common sense to the wind and believe..........or in a Lennon voice....."Imagine there's no government"

We are a nation of laws....they stated that at the beginning of this whole Crazy Thing we call Love

Truth be told...I only looked at your first paragraph

You may or may not had a point after that......50/50

[Dr. Love]

I was explaining how I understood Paul's point of view, and if you'd read the other half, I went on to point out that I didn't agree with it.

In any event, Paul has said more than a few times that he isn't going to push his ideology on the nation; He's pragmatic and would do what he could to safeguard our social systems and begin transitioning us away from government dependence.

I personally like that philosophy. We can afford our social programs if we change our imperialistic philosophy and militarism -- which is exactly what he's saying he would do.

Paul isn't campaigning on a platform of deregulation; He's campaigning on a platform that says we need to change our foreign engagements and get our own house back in order. Spend our resources here and not everywhere else. A lot of people get caught up on what he thinks would work well in theory and forget to look at what he's saying he would do in practice.

A lot of people here included.

[Guitar Shark]

Ron Paul is a crusty old turd.

[Seshmeister]

The reason that Obama has largely failed in his agenda is that a) he is an outsider and b) the US system is built to stop any radicalism.

I don't see how Paul is going to get around that either even if he wins and then wins and then stays healthy.