Album Sales predictions-What do you think?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Either or, this ain't exactly scientific....

[Dan]

Sweet As,Pants Off VA.

[DRD]

I found this article about top Album and Digital single sales in 2010 and the numbers are low compared to how sales used to be for the biz. Hope Van Halen blow these numbers away.
http://www.billboard.com/news/eminem...04137895.story

[BITEYOASS]

[BITEYOASS]

Of course that was for the rock singles chart. In the itunes rock album category, they knocked out Metallica in the top of that chart.

[BITEYOASS]

I'd say it will go platinum in a month.

[BITEYOASS]

Now the album is No. 5 on the itunes albums chart, No. 6 on Amazon.com and the damn thing hasn't been released yet!

"Tattoo" is also now No. 25 on the itunes singles chart!

Now the damn video has had 700k views on YouTube in ONE DAY!

VAN HALEN = WINNING!

[Terry]

A million sold shouldn't be difficult to attain. Certainly not within the context of a major tour. Non-scientific, to be sure, but look at all the buzz surrounding the Cafe Wha? gig, the brief internet snippets and now the release of the new single and video. LOT of people are interested.
Also, this is the first full-length Van Halen album in 12 years. Even fans of the band who may have been more partial to Hagar than Roth...a percentage of those will scoop it up.
Yeah, free downloading and such have impacted sales, but I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of old-school Van Halen fans who will want the tangible cd in their hands so they can slip in the disc player and crank it up.
1 to 2 million sold throughout the course of the tour shouldn't be a problem. MAYBE 2 million +.
Over 5 million? That'd be something. Probably not very realistic in terms of expectations, but should that come to pass it'd be pretty neat (the thought of Hagar and Anthony trying to stammer through their next Chickenfoot interview attempting to shrug off THAT level of success certainly brings a smile to my face).

[binnie]

I think 5 million is not even in the realms of possibility.

The last Metallica record didn't do those kind of numbers....

[Golden AWe]

I don't know...the music industry of today...they'd have a hard time hitting a million even if they released "JUMP" today.

A pessimist won't be disappointed!

[Southpaw]

of course I'm gonna buy the CD ASAP.... but what am I gonna do with it?

[Golden AWe]

of course I'm gonna buy the CD ASAP.... but what am I gonna do with it?

Take the cd in your hand...turn it around...raise it in front of your eyes...there, you can see your own ass with it!

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

It will come down to how many long-time fans come out and purchase. I don't envision Van Halen appealing to many new fans. Why? First, look at the musical landscape today. Just on YouTube (to give a little context, doesn't tell the whole story), LMFAO Party Rock has 350 Million views and even someone like "Tyga" with their "Rack City" video has 13 Million views. Tattoo is a respectable 1.7 Million for a rock act. in this day and age (and will likely increase over the course of the year). Van Halen will be lucky if they capture 2%-5% new fans. The rest will be folks like us that have been waiting forever. And quite a few of us have literally passed away sadly during the long wait, or have become completely disinterested.

Ok so that's my glass-half-empty preamble.

Having said all that, I agree with FORD, I do believe 4xPlatinum by year-end to not be unreasonable. Interscope is doing the right things including selling a deluxe version because I think fans are hungry to see some acoustic or jam videos and we all enjoy seeing and hearing the guys together and happy. Not meaning to sound like a chick all touchy-feely, but VH is like extended family for many, and seeing AND hearing David and Edward together again making NEW music is huge. Further, I'll say a higher percentage of Chickenfeed and Van Hagar fans will buy the new VH album then expecting Classic VH fans to buy Chickenfeed and Van Hagar albums. My point? There's likely a large latent fan base that just completely opted out of VH after DLR left and who may return and buy the new album out of hope, nostalgia, curiosity, etc. So I see it breaking down thus:

2,500,000 - Hard Core Classic VH Fans
1,250,000 - Chickenfeed / Van Hagar Fans (They'll buy anything, so why not a new VH album)
750,000 - Old School Fans who gave up but come back to the fold
150,000 - New/Young Fans and people who hit the wrong button on iTune and Amazon

4,650,000 - Total 2012 Album Sales
195,000 - Digital Download Single - Tattoo (People who can't wait until Feb 7 will buy the single, but most will buy whole album)

Or... They sell 599,000 total and beat out VHIII.

That is all.

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[clarathecarrot]

LMFAO is a good reason or example, of the state the industry, that is for sure the demographic they appeal to is the what 13-17 year old barbie dream house extacy dance party mix crowd? They have always been the largest purchasers of music as you well know.

Good shit for what it is.

Appealing to that demographic is out of the VH sphere. Thank you Jebus.
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I think you are close with your predictions. I am going to buy all three things ,the CD, Bonus trac, and also the LP, I have seen pop up. Plus a show.

I have viewed, three of LMFAO videos and never watch or listen again..like I said good for what it is.

[ELVIS]

Ok it's linked now.
I am still pissed at No Vinyl! Maybe that should be the next POLL!

For real...

I have the new Blizzard and Diary on vinyl as well as CD...

The vinyl sounds awesome...

[VHscraps]

For real...

I have the new Blizzard and Diary on vinyl as well as CD...

The vinyl sounds awesome...

The vinyl edition of A Different Kind of Truth is only available at the moment via Live Nation:

http://www.store.livenation.com/Product.aspx?cp=13281_20623_54521&pc=XM03COMBO

somebody posted about this on another thread that I can't find now (it wasn't in Main), but I googled it up again ... only available to customers who have a US-registered credit card (I tried ordering, but my credit card is linked to my UK address, naturally - that's where I live!).

Coming soon to eBay at very inflated prices, no doubt, unless they release the vinyl everywhere, which I hope they will do eventually.

[BITEYOASS]

I think 5 million is not even in the realms of possibility.

The last Metallica record didn't do those kind of numbers....

Well for one thing, this ain't Metallica and Lars is a cunt.

[bueno bob]

Awe's right...industry being what it is today, it's going to be a hard sell. It'll race like a motherfucker out of the gate, but after a month, maybe less, I'm guessing it's going to dry up pretty quickly.

No matter, they'll make bank on the road, they always do.

[conmee]

I think Van Halen's situation is a bit different. If this were a new Van Hagar release, I'd agree that sales would be tepid, interest muted, and sales lucky to crack 1M. However, ADKOT is the follow-up, for all intents and purposes, to 1984. They will mainly sell to a hungry worldwide fan base that hasn't heard an album of new material from these guys in 28 years. Van Halen fans buy albums not just singles. We're such a starved community for new music I believe that demand will make sales of this album follow more of a pre-Napster/pre-iTunes sales trend.

Another thing, because I don't believe Van Halen will win a substantial number of new/young fans, most of Van Halen's older fan base IS USED TO PAYING for music. I don't know about the rest of you, but I've downloaded all sorts of music but AlWAYS paid for anything from Van Halen. So I think piracy will trend lower in the sense that most of us want to see the band do well and continue making music. Paying for tunes helps keep that process alive.

I doubt the sales will rival the likes of Lady Gaga, Kanye, Jay-Z, Katy Perry, but so what. It will still reach multi-Platinum status and even that doesn't matter except for people who see it as some sort of competition or comeuppance vis-a-vis Chickenfeed and Hagar (and that just shouldn't even be of concern to anyone... David is back and the nightmare is over so just enjoy the new music, videos, and tour).

That is all.

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[sadaist]

Well for one thing, this ain't Metallica and Lars is a cunt.

Metallica isn't even Metallica.


...and Lars is a cunt.

[binnie]

Well, I don't think the last AC/DC record did 5 million, either.

2 million would be a great achievement in 2012.

[BITEYOASS]

I'm buying two CDs. One for me and one for the mrs. Of course I'm keeping the deluxe edition for myself.

[So this is love]

OK to be fair lets take RHCP how many did they sell???

[Terry]

OK to be fair lets take RHCP how many did they sell???

With an avatar like yours, who really cares how much who sold?

[dave_is_vh]

Depends on how good it is.

Van Halen fans will buy it no matter what.

The rest of the population will only buy it if it is very good.

[So this is love]

depends on how good it is.

Van halen fans will buy it no matter what.

The rest of the population will only buy it if it is very good.

the rest of the polpulation don't know dick what this is about......

[So this is love]

with an avatar like yours, who really cares how much who sold?

sorry for misleading you i am not gay///not in a patient mood....currently watching pulp fiction...

[minkahed]

I'm buying three...

[Vinnie Velvet]

BOV1 sold 2 million copies on the strength of just two new songs, so I can't imagine the new album selling any less than that.

Not saying I don't agree with you, FORD, but that was in 1996.

Pre-VDIII, pre-failed reunion attempts, pre-Eddie in hobo/meth stage, pre-Eddie cancer, pre Eddie-Val divorce, pre-Hagar 2004 reunion, pre-Mike getting dumped, and most of all PRE-DIGITAL MUSIC AGE.

[BITEYOASS]

Depends on how good it is.

Van Halen fans will buy it no matter what.

The rest of the population will only buy it if it is very good.

The rest of the population wouldn't know what's good if it came around and kicked it right in the ass! Look at all the pop-garbage and YouTube personality whores (and not the fun kind of whores) that get all the attention.

[DavidLeeNatra]

I couldn't care less what the rest of the world will do...I will have it the day it comes out...

who gives a chickenshit if it sells more than whatever...only because millions of flies eat shit it doesn't mean that the shit is better than what we get...and we get something...finally...no matter how many copies that fucker will sell...

[BITEYOASS]

Oh I know its gonna sell over a million, but beyond that I don't care. Yet you've gotta admit that it does give us another fact to slap around the sheep clowns with.

I can't wait to say: When was the last time Hagar had a platinum album without Dave's songs, muthafucka?!?! :fucku2:

[DavidLeeNatra]

sure it would be nice if they outsell everybody and especially osammy bin hagar...but I really don't care...it's something nice to have...let those Chickenshitters and linx-sheep say whatever they want...I smile, sit back, relax and sing TAT-TOO TAT-TOO...

[BITEYOASS]

sure it would be nice if they outsell everybody and especially osammy bin hagar...but I really don't care...it's something nice to have...let those Chickenshitters and linx-sheep say whatever they want...I smile, sit back, relax and sing TAT-TOO TAT-TOO...

Oh they will outsell Hagar all right! That will be easier than John Holmes getting laid in a swingers club.

In the meantime we won't just smile, we'll EAT EM' AND SMILE!

[DavidLeeNatra]

Oh they will outsell Hagar all right! That will be easier than John Holmes getting laid in a swingers club.

In the meantime we won't just smile, we'll EAT EM' AND SMILE!

yessir...

[Seshmeister]

Record sales are entirely fucking irrelevant these days.

They make 100 million a fucking tour by squeezing every last cent out of us. In the olden days the concert ticket made them break even, the t-shirts made some money and the albums made the big money.

Now it's the $200 gig tickets.

I'll be honest when I pay $200 for a ticket for a gig I have no conscience or worries whatsoever about stealing the album from a bit torrent. The music itself has become a promotional vehicle for the concert ticket. It's like a commercial.

[Nitro Express]

Seeing a concert still is probably cheaper than buying a decent whore.

[Seshmeister]

Define decent you old charmer, you 21st century man you.

Maybe they charge you extra...

[shaggydoo]

I voted "1-2 million", but don't crucify me for that, I hope I'm wrong and they sell over 5 million!

I'm buying two, so I hope that gets the ball rolling in my parts of the world.

[Heater]

So are a lot of people going to buy more than one copy just to boost the sales numbers? And let's not forget all the illegal downloads or burning one for a friend. Is somebody going to extrapolate that figure and add it in? "Well, they sold 200,000 the first week but if they all made a copy and then THEY all made a copy.... That means a trillion sold!! Woot-woot!" seems to be an awful lot of worrying about something that "doesn't matter". Back in the day (pre 1985) I don't remember anybody giving a flying fuck where a VH record sat on the charts or who they outsold, the fans weren't of that mindset, they just enjoyed the music when it came out.