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    The great job conundrum...

    Times are rough. Unemployment is high. The job market seems to be little more than crippled. The great divide between the rich and the poor grows every day. It’s a sad time for this great nation. Our dollar’s value is low and we keep sending jobs over seas. A sad time indeed. And in these sad times those of us who are fortunate enough to have jobs should sit back and thank whoever that we have them.

    I fucking hate my job. In fact, I wish I could hate my job to death.

    Don’t get me wrong, inside I know that I am grateful to have income and am able to [partially] put food on the table. But every day I come into this cubical farm and deal with shitty office politics and vile old woman gossip and I cannot help but seethe with overwhelming loathing for this place.

    Case in point: it is Sunday here in sunny Boca Raton, Florida. Whilst people are enjoying time with their families, I am sitting here working a ten and a half hour shift. Now, some may think that there are some perks to working Sundays that will keep the help in check. Well, yes, I can dress down. However I cannot wear sneakers or I will get written up. Now, is that in and of itself a big deal? No. But when the managers who enforce this wear sneakers or flip flops, it pisses me off. Do as I say not as I do indeed.

    Whatever. I’m just bitching. Trying to pad my post count a little. Just hanging out. Working. Listening to Van Halen. Wait. No I’m not. I’m not listening to Van Halen. Why? Because the ability to listen to music was taken away because someone thought I was listening to satanic music when Running with the Devil came on. “Ok, Vag Pounder, I can kind of understand where they’re coming from.” Oh, can you? How about this? I was singing Ice Cream Man not too long ago. Ice Cream Man. You know the tune. I got a verbal warning. Yep. No singing. Next time is a write up. It’s “distracting”. Fuck. You.

    Siiiiiiigh…….Why am I making you poor souls read this? Well, I’m not. You clicked this link. But I am bored, I am hungry, I’m still a little hungover from Friday, and all I want to do is get some fucking sleep, so I thought I’d share. It’s a sad time indeed. A time where the job market is so scarce that employers can now treat employees as sub-human. Whatever. I try not to bitch, but sometimes I just can’t help it.

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    You just need to find a way to get paid for your art.

    People pay for quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrillsNSpills View Post
    You just need to find a way to get paid for your art.

    People pay for quality.
    Yeah I do. This shit right here is fo' suckahs.

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    I agree Thrills!

    Do it as a sideline until it becomes profitable enough to quit your day job or........learn everything you can about the job you're in and strike out on your own. That way you're giving a big FU to your employer or better yet, they give you a raise/promotion to keep you from competing against them.
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    Well, I am graduating with a degree in graphic design in March so, there's that. It's just one of those "so close, and yet, so far away" situations. And who knows if I'll even get a job coming out of the gates. There are much more experienced people out there that are looking for work. Argh....

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    I'd have to say, no matter how much you hate your job, DO NOT QUIT. I've been unemployed for 3 years, partially due to my own bad attitude about the whole thing. I've been blacklisted in my own industry and there seems to be nothing else i can do and actually support myself. So get your art under control and silently curse the idiots where you work. It's the best way, trust me.

    Oh dear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrillsNSpills View Post
    You just need to find a way to get paid for your art.

    People pay for quality.
    I was thinking the same thing...dude is too insanely artistically talented to be wasting said talent working at a job he hates. Put those mad art skills to work and get paid for them. They say if you have a job that you enjoy you'll never work a day in your life.

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    You guys are awesome. All supportive and such.

    Shoes, what industry are you black listed from? I totally understand the vocal "FUCK YOU" thing. I have a very difficult time keeping quiet myself.

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    Television news

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJtheVagPounder View Post
    Shoes, what industry are you black listed from? .
    Porn, escort, and barista.....

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    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    Television news
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    Prove me wrong......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    Television news
    Oh brutal....

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    I won't. He's right. One of the reasons I thought it would be OK to leave.

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    Meh. You're better than spray tans and teeth caps.
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    Ha. Those are the people that make the money. I was a producer. 30 years. anyway, as much as you hate it, don't leave without a plan.

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    I got a plan. It's solid:


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    Quote Originally Posted by JJtheVagPounder View Post
    Well, I am graduating with a degree in graphic design in March so, there's that. It's just one of those "so close, and yet, so far away" situations. And who knows if I'll even get a job coming out of the gates. There are much more experienced people out there that are looking for work. Argh....
    I majored in design first year in college. Second year I got cold feet, worried about not getting a job and switched to business. I have never have a job that I like. Looking back I should have stuck with what I love to do instead of going the safe route. Go with your design path. You are seriously talented. I would think the commercial art world are always on the look out for new fresh talent. Might have to relocate where the jobs are. Check this out ... This is the company that does the promo for http://www.superstarmedia.com/site/ Is this the type of company you're looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    Oxymoron



    Prove me wrong......
    I thought that meant this guy...










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    Isn't that guy dead?

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    Well, I am very limited on my web design. Although, I do have a website that I built, it is super basic. I'm going more towards the print end of things. Layouts, corporate identities, things like that. I would love to draw for a living. LOVE IT. But it will probably just remain a side thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    Ha. Those are the people that make the money. I was a producer. 30 years. anyway, as much as you hate it, don't leave without a plan.
    couldn't you go into freelance production?

    note i didn't say porn.

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    Oxi....

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    Craig is easily confused.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    Isn't that guy dead?
    Yeah, but I couldn't find a good image of the twerp on the right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    Isn't that guy dead?
    Billy Mays? Oh yeah. He's dead as hell. Hey Billy, is MJ up there with you?

    "No. POW!"

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    I'm so confused....
    WE'RE ON A MISSION FROM ROTH.

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    Billy Mays died around the same time as Michael Jackson. When this happened a local morning radio host had a guy call up acting like Billy Mays from beyond the grave. The guy sounded all coked up (Billy was suspect) and played the part perfectly, talking super fast and super excited and sniffling every now and then. Well, the DJ asked “Billy” if Michael Jackson was up in Heaven with him and he replied….

    “No. POW!”

    You had to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJtheVagPounder View Post
    Billy Mays died around the same time as Michael Jackson. When this happened a local morning radio host had a guy call up acting like Billy Mays from beyond the grave. The guy sounded all coked up (Billy was suspect) and played the part perfectly, talking super fast and super excited and sniffling every now and then. Well, the DJ asked “Billy” if Michael Jackson was up in Heaven with him and he replied….

    “No. POW!”

    You had to be there.
    Oh, and I was there... We sure got some mileage on that one. Speaking of MJ, that motherfucker died on my birthday and stole my thunder!

    Back on topic, hang in there JJ, this is going to be a good year, I can feel it... And that's just not Fridays hangover talking.

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    You have too much fun. And then I make you have more. We may be alcoholics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJtheVagPounder View Post
    Case in point: it is Sunday here in sunny Boca Raton, Florida. Whilst people are enjoying time with their families, I am sitting here working a ten and a half hour shift. Now, some may think that there are some perks to working Sundays that will keep the help in check. Well, yes, I can dress down. However I cannot wear sneakers or I will get written up. Now, is that in and of itself a big deal? No. But when the managers who enforce this wear sneakers or flip flops, it pisses me off. Do as I say not as I do indeed.

    Whatever. I’m just bitching. Trying to pad my post count a little. Just hanging out. Working. Listening to Van Halen. Wait. No I’m not. I’m not listening to Van Halen. Why? Because the ability to listen to music was taken away because someone thought I was listening to satanic music when Running with the Devil came on. “Ok, Vag Pounder, I can kind of understand where they’re coming from.” Oh, can you? How about this? I was singing Ice Cream Man not too long ago. Ice Cream Man. You know the tune. I got a verbal warning. Yep. No singing. Next time is a write up. It’s “distracting”. Fuck. You.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

    The Peter Principle

    The Peter Principle states that "in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence", meaning that employees tend to be promoted until they reach a position at which they cannot work competently. It was formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull in their 1969 book The Peter Principle, a humorous [1] treatise which also introduced the "salutary science of hierarchiology."

    The principle holds that in a hierarchy, members are promoted so long as they work competently. Eventually they are promoted to a position at which they are no longer competent (their "level of incompetence"), and there they remain, being unable to earn further promotions. Peter's Corollary states that "in time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out their duties" and adds that "work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence." "Managing upward" is the concept of a subordinate finding ways to subtly "manage" superiors in order to limit the damage that they end up doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

    The Peter Principle

    The Peter Principle states that "in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence", meaning that employees tend to be promoted until they reach a position at which they cannot work competently. It was formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull in their 1969 book The Peter Principle, a humorous [1] treatise which also introduced the "salutary science of hierarchiology."

    The principle holds that in a hierarchy, members are promoted so long as they work competently. Eventually they are promoted to a position at which they are no longer competent (their "level of incompetence"), and there they remain, being unable to earn further promotions. Peter's Corollary states that "in time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out their duties" and adds that "work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence." "Managing upward" is the concept of a subordinate finding ways to subtly "manage" superiors in order to limit the damage that they end up doing.
    Holy shit! They wrote a principle about this place?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJtheVagPounder View Post
    Holy shit! They wrote a principle about this place?!
    The Dilbert comic strip has been based upon a variation of it for years, now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JJtheVagPounder View Post
    Times are rough. Unemployment is high. The job market seems to be little more than crippled. The great divide between the rich and the poor grows every day. It’s a sad time for this great nation. Our dollar’s value is low and we keep sending jobs over seas. A sad time indeed. And in these sad times those of us who are fortunate enough to have jobs should sit back and thank whoever that we have them.

    I fucking hate my job. In fact, I wish I could hate my job to death.

    Don’t get me wrong, inside I know that I am grateful to have income and am able to [partially] put food on the table. But every day I come into this cubical farm and deal with shitty office politics and vile old woman gossip and I cannot help but seethe with overwhelming loathing for this place.

    Case in point: it is Sunday here in sunny Boca Raton, Florida. Whilst people are enjoying time with their families, I am sitting here working a ten and a half hour shift. Now, some may think that there are some perks to working Sundays that will keep the help in check. Well, yes, I can dress down. However I cannot wear sneakers or I will get written up. Now, is that in and of itself a big deal? No. But when the managers who enforce this wear sneakers or flip flops, it pisses me off. Do as I say not as I do indeed.

    Whatever. I’m just bitching. Trying to pad my post count a little. Just hanging out. Working. Listening to Van Halen. Wait. No I’m not. I’m not listening to Van Halen. Why? Because the ability to listen to music was taken away because someone thought I was listening to satanic music when Running with the Devil came on. “Ok, Vag Pounder, I can kind of understand where they’re coming from.” Oh, can you? How about this? I was singing Ice Cream Man not too long ago. Ice Cream Man. You know the tune. I got a verbal warning. Yep. No singing. Next time is a write up. It’s “distracting”. Fuck. You.

    Siiiiiiigh…….Why am I making you poor souls read this? Well, I’m not. You clicked this link. But I am bored, I am hungry, I’m still a little hungover from Friday, and all I want to do is get some fucking sleep, so I thought I’d share. It’s a sad time indeed. A time where the job market is so scarce that employers can now treat employees as sub-human. Whatever. I try not to bitch, but sometimes I just can’t help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Have you ever thought of bartending?
    My wife is actually a bartender. Have I thought of it? Yes. The problem though is my propensity to drink beer when I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJtheVagPounder View Post
    My wife is actually a bartender. Have I thought of it? Yes. The problem though is my propensity to drink beer when I see it.
    Yeah, I gave up on the idea of becoming a high school teacher for remarkably similar reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJtheVagPounder View Post
    Well, I am graduating with a degree in graphic design in March so, there's that. It's just one of those "so close, and yet, so far away" situations. And who knows if I'll even get a job coming out of the gates. There are much more experienced people out there that are looking for work. Argh....
    You should pm me...I know someone in the business. One of my best friends from 2nd Grade. Google "Gary Platner". And it is ok....he is well known so not giving something away.

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