When he sang "There must be some kind of way...that we can make it right"
I'd follow with "Yes, there is...Get Dave back!"
Exactomundo! Even in 98 when Eddie was sprouting all that shit about "Gary is my brother, has elephant balls, sings like a angel, this is the singer i've been looking for etc" bulldust I could just hear it in the songs man, this was a temp deal. Gary was always pretty humble about it and the tour was mostly a Roth nostalgia trip....
If anything it was the solo album that Ed never made. He took Sammy on board '85 and had all those vultures around him living off him, he was forced into the whole sold out crystal pepsi deal. Then he makes III and WB reluctantly lets it out, refuses to do another with Gary. To me it sounds like Ed saying to Dave "Hey I've cut the cheese, this isn't for the charts, respect me Dave?" Maybe.
Did Sammy VH have a better album? 5150, FUCK? Are these more listenable than III? Whaddya reckon fellas?
*an angel* sorry
the opening song from Live Without A Band (1986).
"Check the hands on the clock it's 8:05 it's time to rock, and this world can't disagree they don't understand how it should be, oh yeah... there's only one way to suck cock." der nernt ner chi chi dern no ner nern
yeah it's catchy enough, that's all Sammy went for. I'm not gonna act all high and mighty. When I was 10, that shit sounded cool to me, but the path kept on you see, and old Dave keeps on walking outta sight in front of me. I never see Sammy cos he's always so far back
yeah I can list my Sammy (VH) listenables (like you, Ed and Al and Mike's cool bass n high mullet vocs sure help!)
- Dreams (under another band name - this song is pure 80's coke-delusion! Nice solo too)
- 5150 (hate the reverb-to-the-maxx drum intro)
- pleasure dome (barely a Sammy song)
- top of the world (just the oooh ooohs in the bridge and then the solo, it's one of my favourite solos!!)
- de ja vu (nostalgic old riff - Sammy doesn't kill it till the chorus)
- humans being
he's had moments, i'll give him that, but in reality it's Van Halen that were having the moments - Sammy, like always is riding on the coattails with his hand out for cash. He used Halen for cash and (some) fame. I'll never forgive him for that.
LWAN I will never understand. Van Halen alienated their hardcore CVH fans in one fell swoop by opening with a Hagar tune.......your Van friggin Halen and that's the first song you choose for your first official live recording? How rediculous is that? That was like a big middle finger to all the people who supported the group from it's inception. They made it pretty easy to jump ship and side with Dave....especially after hearing Eat Em and Smile and the monster musicians Dave assembled to play with him.
Won whey two rok...
I guess there's more than one way...
Noticed the house cleaning in the forums today... you missed one. This thread should be in the dump rather than main... I'm just sayin...
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Heh I was trying to find these Van Cherone songs on Youtube because I never listened to any of them and found this nugget.
Who are we kidding, this is fucking terrible
Wow...I've NEVER listened to that before.........
That might be the worst thing I've ever heard on a Major Label................
Heads should have FUCKING ROLLED for releasing that steaming pile.........................
I'm thunderstruck at how incredibly AWFUL that was............................................... ..................................
Well, heads did roll, in a sense..... the first one being Cherone's (who ironically had very little involvement in that particular shitty track).
All reports from the Mushroom $tarks at the time suggests that Van Danniels second album was nearly complete in November 1999, when Ga y was unceremoniously dumped from the band. Logic suggests that WB heard a rough mix of the album, and knew it would tank as badly as VDIII did, so they told the band "Fuck this shit. Lose the ballerina and get Roth back in the band, or you're off the label"
Took another 6 years and three horrible new Hagar turds to do it, but WB finally made good on their threat. They even passed on the opportunity to release a REAL Van Halen hits compilation (one with no cheddar on it) to cash in on the 2007/08 reunion tour.
I'll bet someone at WB kicked themselves the moment "Tattoo" hit the airwaves, but after two shitbricks (VDIII and the Hagarized BOVII in 2004) in a row labeled "Van Halen", it seemed like a sound business move at the time to drop them.
Eat Us And Smile
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"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
I think the lp cover to VH III was pretty accurate...the guy getting the cannon in the gut was the Van Halen fan base
It comes as a surprise that you guys never had heard "HMSI" before now. Since we are in the middle of the lunchtime hour here on the East coast, I'll do you all a favor by NOT posting the live version, which would ruin your meal. The audience in the clip was similarly moved.
The follow-up to VHIII was being produced by Danny Kortchmar, who had worked wonders for Don Henley and a handful of other decidedly middle-of-the-road artists. His sole attempt at producing hard rock was Neil Young's virtually unlistenable album Landing on Water. One can only imagine how VH's album would have fared.
I first heard HMSI when they had the full album preview on the radio back in 1998.
I have not heard it since and have no desire to. Even for a laugh - because I wasn't laughing in 1998 nor would I be today if I listened to that piece of dung again.
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EAT US AND SMILE
You guys are complaining about How Many Say I and One Way to Rock.
trust me that's nothing compared to the Hag track "Let Sally drive"
If you ever hear that you will be that much more stupefied that the Hag could ever critique Tattoo.
makes Footnote sound like fuckin Mozart.
I agree Nuno can play and Extreme has good background vocals. That Queen medely they did at the Freddie Mercury tribute concert was fantastic. Cherone seems like a good guy, I wish him no ill will.. its not like he tried to sweep the DLR catalog under the rug, he encouraged Ed to play more of those songs I believe for that VHIII tour.
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That Freddie Mercury tribute was really amazing when you think of the combinations of people playing together that you'd never see.
You saw musicians out of their element or doing things they don't usually, like Iommi playing nonSabbath stuff for example.
anyone who likes even a little bit of the Queen catalog should check that one out.
Most of the crowd wouldn't have known who they were.
I have much more respect for Cherone than I'll ever have for Spam-bot - Cherone at least respected the legacy of this band and didn't let his ego get in the way of trying to perform Classic Van HALEN tunes in concert. Spam-bot did everything he could to shit all over that legacy, and pretend it never existed.
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