Devastating thought then adkot commentary

[CDABOAT1]

Devastating thought... What if years ago with Sammy they would have re-worked the old demos? Hearing Sammy singing new versions of Down In Flames, Bullethead, Put Out the Lights, etc...

THANK YOU EDDIE FOR NEVER DOING THIS TO YOUR FANS......


ADKOT Commentary... Our amusement park, Six Flags Over Texas, recently rebuilt the worlds tallest wooden roller coaster (Texas Giant). This new version is much faster, smoother and just an exciting ride - has an old look and feel but this thing cooks.. You want to ride this roller coaster again and again.

ADKOT is much the same. What a wild ride. "The band is on fire"... 2011 comment from Ross Hogarth.. is the truth. I didn't believe his comment 100% last year but oh my.. his comment... and this CD.. is dead on. Are all these songs going to be top 40 hits? No. Will they all be top 40 hits to us loyal fans? Hell yeah.

Which ones will be radio hits? IMHO... Tattoo (already reached #1), Stay Frosty, You and Your Blues and Blood and Fire. Might also add She's The Woman.

Yes, the big bear has been in long time hibernation... but he is roaring now kids. Yowza!

[CDABOAT1]

Oh yes.. and BIG RIVER... roll that sucker to a top hit too, why don't ya! FRIG this new CD is the shizzle!

[minkahed]

I don't think Sam could have pulled any of that material off and make it sound authentic.

That's one of the biggest factors in the whole Sam vs Dave bullshit, in that a key element that Dave has in spades that Samuel lacks is CHARISMA

[CDABOAT1]

I don't think Sam could have pulled any of that material off and make it sound authentic.

That's one of the biggest factors in the whole Sam vs Dave bullshit, in that a key element that Dave has in spades that Samuel lacks is CHARISMA

Very true.. not to get into a Dave/Sam debate (cuz I'll defend Dave all day, any day).. but.. Some may say that Sam is a better singer technically.. Okay.. fine. But Dave brings the attitude which comes out in the music.. and that is one of the many flavors of the Van Halen appeal that has been missed for over 2 decades (except Me Wise Magic and Can't Get This Stuff No More). Attitude.. his vibe is the fuel here. Yes?

[Yount]

Dave has torque!
Sammy has pork!

[DlocRoth]

Dave has torque!
Sammy has pork!

Sig worthy!!!

[CDABOAT1]

wonder if Bullet Head is a little bit of a F.U. to Sammy on he and his book? On the other hand, the brothers probably don't care at this point.

[Kaydeim]

Dave's lyric writing was already head and shoulders above Hagar, but nowhere is it more evident than between ADKOT and Chickenfoot III. If people will just give this album a chance, it will go multi-platinum. As others have said, I don't care what others think...but I do believe this music deserves to be heard. I think Interscope is doing their part. I hope the band plays Leno, Letterman or even Fallon...that would be cool.

I can't believe I'm so geared up over 1:30 clips!

CDA, your analogy is spot on.

[VanCanHalen]

Very true.. not to get into a Dave/Sam debate (cuz I'll defend Dave all day, any day).. but.. Some may say that Sam is a better singer technically.. Okay.. fine. But Dave brings the attitude which comes out in the music.. and that is one of the many flavors of the Van Halen appeal that has been missed for over 2 decades (except Me Wise Magic and Can't Get This Stuff No More). Attitude.. his vibe is the fuel here. Yes?

Plus Hagars lyrics about dreams, love, love, some more love useless garbage, Dave brings layers to every recording both vocally and lyrically

[ashstralia]

i'm still on the self imposed leak ban. i will not hear anything other than 'tattoo' till next friday.

i recently said this to a dear mate of mine...

'then the big engine got cleaned and repaired and fired up again. and it's the most motherfucking powerful thing on the planet; never mind it's age. i think that's what the locomotive represents.'

[CDABOAT1]

i'm still on the self imposed leak ban. i will not hear anything other than 'tattoo' till next friday.

i recently said this to a dear mate of mine...

'then the big engine got cleaned and repaired and fired up again. and it's the most motherfucking powerful thing on the planet; never mind it's age. i think that's what the locomotive represents.'

Thanks, Kaydeim... your beautiful babe don't ever change... Yo.. on the locomotive. You are on to something.. An old train, re-tooled with full steam ahead into the future. That makes a lot of sense.. I'd bet there's a part of that thought - or a majority of that thought - behind the CD cover.

[vandeleur]

Dave has torque!
Sammy has pork!

Love it

[Kaydeim]

i'm still on the self imposed leak ban. i will not hear anything other than 'tattoo' till next friday.

i recently said this to a dear mate of mine...

'then the big engine got cleaned and repaired and fired up again. and it's the most motherfucking powerful thing on the planet; never mind it's age. i think that's what the locomotive represents.'

Well, "Good on ya, mate!" You are stronger than me. However, I already bought the album, so I didn't really consider it cheating or anything. Just know that you are going to be blown away. I have no doubt that this will exceed any expectation you may have had...and I'm not over selling.

God bless you!

[bueno bob]

Let's Get Jivin'? Down in Love? Loverhead?

Yeah, that would have worked...actually, I don't think Ed deserves any thanks for not reworking them with Hagar per se, I just think he probably hated Dave so much at that point (along with the rest of the band) that he wanted to distance himself as far away from him as humanly possible. Makes sense when you look at the concert set lists between 1986-1995...

[guwapo_rocker]

Let's Get Jivin'? Down in Love? Loverhead?

Yeah, that would have worked...actually, I don't think Ed deserves any thanks for not reworking them with Hagar per se, I just think he probably hated Dave so much at that point (along with the rest of the band) that he wanted to distance himself as far away from him as humanly possible. Makes sense when you look at the concert set lists between 1986-1995...

You're alive!!

[ashstralia]

nah, woulda been all about food.

[bueno bob]

You're alive!!

I'm kinda like Captain Jack Harkness, except without the gay part.

How ya been?

[guwapo_rocker]

Good to see you. It's late here, I'll shoot you a pm tomorrow.

[DavidLeeNatra]

You're alive!!

and so are all his aliases

[Dave's Bitch]

Sammy does not have the voice to touch the old demo's.His scratchy voice would sound horrible on any of the CVH stuff

[DavidLeeNatra]

Sammy does not have the voice to touch the old demo's.His scratchy voice would sound horrible on any of the CVH stuff

naaaah...he sang that stuff better than ever...c'mon we all know that...and just imagine how GOOD that old stuff could have been with HIM...we will hear that, soon....

don't worry...one will ask...one will answert...

[Panamark]

Man thats a fucked up idea ?

I wonder how much of 5150 was Dave's ?

Dont scare us dude !!!

[Halen High]

That is a shocking thought......but it's a thought I've also had. I would think Hagar was well aware of Classic Van Halen's legendary collection of unreleased material, either through his relationship with Mike, hearing stuff while hanging around 5150, or later, in 2004, via the internet. I think he would have loved to have been given the opportunity to be associated with this timeless music and I wouldn't be surprised if he attempted to coerce Eddie into releasing it with him. After being presented with Up For Breakfast, I just imagine him saying, "Come on Eddie let's look in the vaults. I know you have tonnes of stuff in there."

Perhaps Eddie respected Dave too much to allow that to happen, or he knew lawyers would get involved if they did - who knows? But thank God Hagar never touched this stuff. His screeching, souless vocals and awful lyrics would have killed the lot of it - and who knows how the music would have been altered to suit his bland view of songwriting. Not only that, but he would have given no credit to Dave and claimed it was all originally written with him - no matter what the evidence. We are very lucky.

Panamark - I think about half of 5150 was recorded with Dave in early '85 - but others here will know for sure.

[Yount]

I think about half of 5150 was recorded with Dave in early '85.

I wonder if we'll ever get to hear the 5150 Dave demo's like Eat Thy Neighbour.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Oh for Christ sakes, you can only say "Come on baby", "Owwww" and "Dig it Ya'll" so many times....

[78/84 guy]

At first I thought what a stupid thread, but it is interesting and before alot of the demo's got out very possible. Ed was smart to leave those riffs in the past until now.

[DLR Bridge]

VHND scored an interview with Mike whereby he answered post-ers questions a few years ago. That would be great if the Army could snag a set up like that with Dave. I bet he'd clear up some of our curiosities about the unheard 1985 sessions. I've often wondered if any of his lyrics to songs on his solo albums were pulled from anything he may have layed down with VH, aside from the song title, Big Trouble. Who know's, maybe gems like the lyrics to Bottom Line were originally intended for VH. Always liked that one.

[VAiN]

Man thats a fucked up idea ?

I wonder how much of 5150 was Dave's ?

In my opinion it seems pretty obvious which tracks were demo'd with Dave - basically the handful of rockers - I'd say: good enough, get up, summer nights (one of the stupidest choruses in the universe) and maybe best of both worlds. I know for a fact that the riff to (not)good enough was actually played live durning some late 84 shows..