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    Quote Originally Posted by chi-town324 View Post
    Ed brought in his own kid...MA was gonna be out anyway
    Yeah I don't think he had a choice, seeing as how he only played on three songs on VHIII and had nothing to do with BOBW. He said in a 2006 interview that the VH brothers didn't want him on the 2004 reunion tour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heater View Post
    Doesn't answer the question....WHAT is a calk board? Maybe your post would make more sense if you explained it. Nice picture, is that you on the left? Boom!
    CHALK BOARD...I know its a mystery when a person drops a letter out of a common word....try to keep up kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    What happened to that other Bueno Bob who couldn't have been more in opposition to the whole thing? If I recall you wanted no part of a Van Halen without Mike? Have you come from the Dark side finally? Nice to have you back!
    Yeah, more or less. I hated the thought at first, and a large part of me STILL would love to have Mike back, but at this point, it's barely an issue to me anymore, really. Wolfgang's honestly got all the bass chops Van Halen needs; I don't care all that much about the backing vocals, per se. It looks weird to have a kid amongst old men, yeah, but what are looks when it comes to having the band back?

    And it's not like I'm going to go on a hate fest about Mike...or anybody else, per se, if Mike wants to play backup in Chickenfoot, that's fine...if it makes him happy, whatever...his being gone is his fault, Hagar's fault, Eddie's fault, and even Alex's fault, they're all equally to blame for it....Mike could suck it up and call Eddie and probably get his job back, but he doesn't; Eddie could call him and Mike would be on a plane inside of 2 hours...it is what it is.

    I have no vitriol towards Wolfgang, and in his shoes, hey, it's a cool gig to have, you know? As far as I care anymore, if anybody REALLY misses Mike all that much, they can go listen to The Other Half of Planet Chickenfoot or whatever...

    ...but based on the sales of THAT particular band, well, NOBODY DOES.
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    Chickenfoot III

    Is burning up the charts
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    Quote Originally Posted by mug View Post
    It's the greatest thing I've ever heard, outside of Supertramp and Erasure.
    You really are a dolt


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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Chickenfoot III

    Is burning up the charts
    Straight to the discount bin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floridaman1985 View Post
    Straight to the discount bin!
    Where it sits at a respectable #130 in the under $3.00 category

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    Well, from what I read in the thread that was directly quoted from Anthony, the words "lawsuit" and "songwriting credits" weren't spoken by him, and I think it was classy of him to simply wish the band well and say that he was looking forward to hearing the new album.
    I still can't decide if Mike Anthony has been exhibiting a zen-like sense of peace and acceptance over being ousted from the band, or if he has the personality of a doormat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Well, from what I read in the thread that was directly quoted from Anthony, the words "lawsuit" and "songwriting credits" weren't spoken by him, and I think it was classy of him to simply wish the band well and say that he was looking forward to hearing the new album.
    I still can't decide if Mike Anthony has been exhibiting a zen-like sense of peace and acceptance over being ousted from the band, or if he has the personality of a doormat.
    I'd say the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    I'd say the latter.
    Yeah...perhaps...I mean, if he's bitter or pissed at all, he sure does a good job of hiding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Well, from what I read in the thread that was directly quoted from Anthony, the words "lawsuit" and "songwriting credits" weren't spoken by him, and I think it was classy of him to simply wish the band well and say that he was looking forward to hearing the new album.
    I still can't decide if Mike Anthony has been exhibiting a zen-like sense of peace and acceptance over being ousted from the band, or if he has the personality of a doormat.
    Both.....

    He's in his 50's, a multimillionaire, has lived a life that any of us would of killed for and now he gets to play in a band that doesn't have the hassle of mounting a major tour, Hell, booking the small theaters for these guys could be done by the band itself and they'd still be free by lunch.

    Why not be a doormat......he's done it all!

    He's making money, doing what he loves and really doesn't have the stress or hassle of having to sell out arenas to be able to continue.

    If it wasn't for having to hear Spammy caterwaul on a nightly basis....I'd trade places with him in a heartbeat

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    Can somebody please explain why MA would sign his rights away?

    I can't stand his playing but why would anyone give up the rights to their work. Its sheer stupidity. Im not talking what people speculate on what he or eddie played. Im talking the written contracts, liners, and songwriting.....

    There has to be more than this because its makes NO sense. Im not talking reaming VH for all you can get , but protecting your work.

    Having him airbrushed off the covers, denying him rights to say he was the former bass player of VH ....none of this sounds on the up and up.
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    He did not!

    He signed away ALL FUTURE rights of the brand Van Halen. He basically signed away his right to be in the band or have an equal say in anything about the band.

    He's still listed as songwriter on everything up to '03, IIRC.

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    Michael Anthony was the Van Halen version of Ogre from "Revenge of the Nerds".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Chickenfoot III

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    No My Son,It's Burning Up Someone's Asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    No My Son,It's Burning Up Someone's Asshole.
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    I Feel The Love In This Thread.

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    So, No Hairy Dogs then, dad?

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    MA Wrote,This Hot Sauce Is Too Hot For Your Asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidLeeNatra View Post
    we got a place for you here...ask Rikk...he'll show you the way...
    Damn straight.

    And seriously...fuck Michael Anthony. The only reason he isn't "going after them" is because he knows goddamn well he never wrote a note or a beat. He played bass and sang. Good for him...but name one goddamn Van Halen song Mikey wrote. No, those six solo bass notes at the beginning of RWTD don't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    Mike was in on the Dave bashing when he was in Van Halen.

    Now that he's out of VH, he says Dave is the only reason he'd want to jam with the group again.

    The guy has no core.
    One thing I can't take about Mike at this point is the scores of people whining that he's not in the band.

    I remember his shitty look on his face up on the stage at the MTV Video Awards in 1996. He was furious that Dave was doing his schtick. He looked angrier than the brothers.

    Then I remember this quote from a '96 Dutch Fan Club interview after Dave was apparently back in...

    Michel: How do you feel about this situation personally? In the press the band always hated David Lee Roth. And now all of a sudden you're working with the guy!

    Mike: Yeah, I know. A lot of people were surprised by that. Actually I was the last person in the band to accept the fact that this would happen. Eddie was the one that wanted to do it. He met with Dave two or three times. And that last time, I called over there and I talked to Dave. It was the first time I talked to him in eleven years.

    Michel: You didn't, in all those years?

    Mike: Oh no... I told them I didn't want to work with Dave and I wouldn't wanna tour with him. But I'm in Van Halen and Eddie and Alex are my brothers. And if they wanted to do it I would do it, too.... It was kind of hard at first because musically we're pretty much evolved a lot more than Dave did. But we have a producer by the name of Glen Ballard and he worked on new songs with us. And all I got- to say is that this guy is the best producer we've ever worked with. He's the most normal person. He doesn't have an ego like a lot of producers do. And when we're going to do our next studio record, he probably will produce it for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bueno bob View Post
    Oh, never mind...he's banned already.

    8 whole posts.

    Wow. Guess we're being Johnny On the Spot about bannings these days?

    LOL
    what'a all this banning shit these days???? where is the fun now kicking these asswipes around????
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    Quote Originally Posted by bueno bob View Post
    Yeah, more or less. I hated the thought at first
    takes guts, goodonyamate
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave_is_vh View Post
    Van Halen is/was ABSOLUTELY a two man operation. I could play bass or drums in Van Halen right now and you wouldn't even know the difference unless you saw me. And I am not even a good bass player or drummer. Furthermore we all know Dave and Ed wrote ALL of the songs.
    Now, now... don't go talkin out your ass... No need to go embarrassing yourself.

    In a blind test I'd know the difference in two beats within a measure.

    Clearly you don't have the knowledge nor experience to know what went into composing and recording all of the Van Halen material. At least 4 people went into the studio and 4 performances made it to tape. I think we all acknowledge Ed's guitar contributions and Dave's melodies and lyrical genius. The bass and drums are not optional plug-n-play modules. It's all an integral part of the VH magic... A riff track with scratch vocals does not a hit song make...
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    MA can change his mind as he matures and he has the freedom to bash and then forgive ..like how I remember all those women I made love in my youth, too, and in my heart I really meant, just the tip.

    Now, that I have mature'd I wish I could see them all again and just knock off one more piece of that ass.

    Mutha On Bitches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    One thing I can't take about Mike at this point is the scores of people whining that he's not in the band.
    I think it's just become fashionable with certain mouth breathing youtube commenters who were never really Van Halen fans to begin with
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    It is bizarre how people say that Mike 'alligned himself' with Haggis...Haggis was ED's choice to be in the band. Ed wrote many albums of SHIT with that guy. MANY albums of shit and sold it like it was cotton candy at the fair. So, because Haggis treats Mike like a human being rather than a lapdog, and then Mike decides to hang out with the guy (come on man...chubby kids stick together) everyone blames Mike? Ed brought that annoying wannabe into the fold and loved it all.

    Whether you care or not if Mike is in the current line-up, it isn't Haggis' fault and it isn't Mike's fault. It is Ed's doing because he is a control freak egomaniac.

    The f'n end.
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    Wow....I just wished someone would of said that years ago, ad nauseam

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    End of the day, it is Mike that worked hard to make the '96 reunion not happen. He was against Dave being there from the beginning and let it be known. And he was the fat bass player.

    Ed and Al had the final say and fucked it all up, but Mike sure helped the '96 reunion not happen.

    And for him I don't feel remotely bad. He can fuck himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    End of the day, it is Mike that worked hard to make the '96 reunion not happen. He was against Dave being there from the beginning and let it be known. And he was the fat bass player.

    Ed and Al had the final say and fucked it all up, but Mike sure helped the '96 reunion not happen.

    And for him I don't feel remotely bad. He can fuck himself.
    Nicely written, Rikk. That hot sauce peddler can fuck himself. He's a marginal bass player at best and his background vox are overrated.

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    Now now. "Marginal bass player at best"? Not true. Sure he ain't Tal Wilkenfeld, but for the type of music they were playing, he was pretty fucking good.

    It is all academic. I posted after seeing "She's The Woman" that I did not give a fuck if Mikey ever came back. He wanted to be with Spambot. He has money. He is set for life. And he does not have to deal with Ed or Dave. Just the screechklown in his current chickenshit band.

    Wolfy has had the torch passed to HIM. I am all for it. He is a fucking badass, and IF Mikey never plays in Van Halen again, I am fine with it. Sure I would love it if he were to do so.

    But it is irrelevant to worry about it now.
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    I have never gotten all this moaning over St. Michael of Pasadena. If he had been the one who had left/was pushed in 1985, there would have been one line in the RS Random Notes (“longtime Van Halen bassist Michael Anthony replaced by Billy Sheehan”) and nothing more. Not one fan—not one—would have defected over Bassplayer’s departure.
    Even now, I think fans are more angry over how it was handled, not that he is no longer in the band. The way I see it, the guy was the target of workplace mobbing for 30 years and he put up with it a) for the money, b) he knew he’d never get another gig half as sweet, and c) he’s a total pussy utterly lacking in self-esteem. I’m not going to say he got what he deserved, but after you’ve made some decent bank, if you continue to put up with that shit then you’ve got to know some day it’ll bite you in the ass, especially when seeing all the other folks EVH turned on.
    People confuse meekness, or plain out cowardice, with virtue. Turn the other cheek is a wonderful philosophy of self-restraint and forgiveness more should follow, but sometimes you’ve got to stand up for yourself and clock the mf back.
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    EXACTLY!!!

    Grow a set....like Jason Newsted....who said..."F-U-C-K YOU! I'm taking my millions and leaving this sinking ship! AND I'm gonna go and make music that IS FUN!!!"

    So...fuck "Hot-Sauce"...................he stood by and bent anyway the winds of fortune blew.....

    "BYE BYE SUM-BITCH"!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by golitely View Post
    People confuse meekness, or plain out cowardice, with virtue. Turn the other cheek is a wonderful philosophy of self-restraint and forgiveness more should follow, but sometimes you’ve got to stand up for yourself and clock the mf back.
    I get what you mean but people would be furious if Mike called out Ed for what Ed is/was...they'd be calling him ungrateful and a backstabber and eevry name in the book. Because he chooses to not get into the mud slinging now people will call him a coward, spineless, etc. Well, I don't know him so I can't say...all I can do is judge by what I have seen and by what I've seen he was Ed's lapdog, super loyal tro the VH brothers, but now he gets treated like a person and he already has as much money as anyone could ever need so I bet that he is completely unaware that thyere are a bunch of people backing him and a bunch of people stabbing him in the back because he just plays music, enjoys himself and lives a life like few can imagine...even if it is often spent with Haggis .

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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgdonkey View Post
    I get what you mean but people would be furious if Mike called out Ed for what Ed is/was...they'd be calling him ungrateful and a backstabber and eevry name in the book. Because he chooses to not get into the mud slinging now people will call him a coward, spineless, etc.
    It's pretty much a no win situation for him.. He seems cool with things, so good for him. He's taking a high road - a certain fat singer should follow his example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VAiN View Post
    It's pretty much a no win situation for him.. He seems cool with things, so good for him. He's taking a high road - a certain fat singer should follow his example.
    I agree...I even think that Fatty McSinger would seem a lot more noble if he took it down to about 50% - then it would just be a little jabbing. You can bet that if Ed is ever to comment that he'll let it fly pretty hard at Mr. Haggis. When he hit the airwaves with the 'Sauce Sobeleski' comments that time I thought that he was pretty ruthless so he probably has some real heavies saved up for the real target of his current hate.

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