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    So...word is Dave is focusing on his acting career. Starwood isn't that surprised, given that most of the rock legends - at one point or another - have.
    Jagger. Bowie. Daltry. Even Bob Dylan. I'm sure there's many more.
    Should we count Sting?
    The point is - what do you think his chances are of success?
    Some might say his bit on the Sopranos was a good start. In terms of visiblity, it absolutely was. But he was playing himself. Not the toughest job for an actor.
    Bottom line? Every rock legend who played this game came back to the sandlot where they started - and belong. On a stage fronting a great rock and roll band.
    Given what's currently going down w/VH - and the eventual decay of excitement - it might be safe to say that doing a cameo/movie here/there might not be a bad idea. You know he'll nail it - and that will keep him in the public eye. And you know about that time, the Van Hagar swindle will fail. After the buzz wears off, the records don't sell...the fingerpointing will begin. We all know Sammy doesn't need VH. He'll split in a heartbeat. The guys almost 60, and he'll be happy fading off into the sunset with his cheap tequila and Waboritas. He's got enough money to assure the next two generations live like kings. Sorry. Got a little sidetracked.
    Dave's been playing the club/arena retro classic tour for many years now. When did I see him w/Bad Co? 99? And every summer since?
    Might be time for a well deserved rest. Would not be suprised at all if he cans the Euro tour if the album isn't selling well.
    Starwood thinks Dave should go for it and his chances are good.
    By the time TV/Film gets sick of Dave - Sammy will be sick of VH.
    And then we all meet up once again - in the sandlot - and have ourselves a party.

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    Love to se Dave take a few acting gigs.

    What I'd really like to see is a talk show/variety show. Have all the new starlets and young musicians on for comedy, leering and music. Maybe a little Man Show meets SNL by way of the Daily Show.

    Comedy Central or VH1 should get this cranked up.
    "Float like a butterfly. Sting like a B-52." - DLR=VH=
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    "I used to be able to write off condons"

    With that line there starts Dave's acting career... I guess one problem Dave would have as an actor would be how the hell does he break out of being Dave. He's just such a well known personality I think he'd have a hard time getting cast in a role outside of his personna...
    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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    ooooohhhhh boooooyyyyy...........

    If Dave couldnt make it as an actor in 1985, which is why he quit Van halen, what makes you think he can now?

    He would have to ditch his complete image to make it.

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    Maybe he will. Time will tell. Why would you say Dave can't act? His videos are small movies. His personality is off the wall with charisma to boot. I think Dave would do just fine in a serious role (ala Sopranos) or like a comedy, 1/2 "man show" type. He's got an eye for what is cool and flashy too, so I wouldn't count out directing or writing either. You say there is too much Sam bashing here, but yet everytime you post, you post negative Dave material. Why is that?
    "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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    Originally posted by Big Troubles
    Maybe he will. Time will tell. Why would you say Dave can't act? His videos are small movies. His personality is off the wall with charisma to boot. I think Dave would do just fine in a serious role (ala Sopranos) or like a comedy, 1/2 "man show" type. He's got an eye for what is cool and flashy too, so I wouldn't count out directing or writing either. You say there is too much Sam bashing here, but yet everytime you post, you post negative Dave material. Why is that?

    I didnt say he couldnt act. I said the public doesnt care anymore. Id like to see him succeed in this. Cuz I think his music career is long over.

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    Starwood thinks a "lost" porn tape with Savannah or Christy Turlington might be a good jumpstart to this career.

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    Originally posted by L.S.D.
    ooooohhhhh boooooyyyyy...........

    If Dave couldnt make it as an actor in 1985, which is why he quit Van halen, what makes you think he can now?

    He would have to ditch his complete image to make it.
    Dave could have, but the company couldn't make it as a film company. Had they not gone bust, we wouldn't be on this site. We'd all be watching Crazy From The Heat and pissing ourselves over and over again.
    Moving webhosts & will be making changes to the picture hosting - watch this space..

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    Originally posted by L.S.D.
    I didnt say he couldnt act. I said the public doesnt care anymore. Id like to see him succeed in this. Cuz I think his music career is long over.
    He hasn't done anything "explosive" to make the public care. Type his name in google, and see how revelant he still is. With the proper agent, and right roles, like Sopranos, Dave could very well be a natural at acting.
    As far as his music career goes. What would you like him to do next? You didn't like the cover album no doubt. So tell us, what does LSD think Dave should do, musically speaking.

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    What is Dave up to these days, anyway? Anyone know what his near future plans, or gigs are going to be?
    Knowing and believing are two very different things.

    It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.


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    Originally posted by Big Troubles
    He hasn't done anything "explosive" to make the public care. Type his name in google, and see how revelant he still is. With the proper agent, and right roles, like Sopranos, Dave could very well be a natural at acting.
    As far as his music career goes. What would you like him to do next? You didn't like the cover album no doubt. So tell us, what does LSD think Dave should do, musically speaking.
    Retire. If he isnt going to be fronting Van Halen, he shouldnt bother. His solo stuff is beyond lame now, the sales are embarassing and the cover band is trying too hard.

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    Originally posted by L.S.D.
    Retire. If he isnt going to be fronting Van Halen, he shouldnt bother. His solo stuff is beyond lame now, the sales are embarassing and the cover band is trying too hard.
    Sorry but YOUR opinion in "album sales" and the "cover band trying too hard" echoes simplistic theory. Dave doesn't sing for you. He sings for the people that do want him to perform. Regardless of the amount. That's what you don't understand. Dave doesn't care as much for album sales and #1 hits as do the Van Halen's, he simply wants to play and sing HIS music. Van Hagar doesn't do the classics any justice, so Dave does it for them. And does them well.
    So in your opinion he should "retire" if he isn't going to front VH? That's rediculous for 2 reasons. 1) You can't retire from what Dave does. It's a lifestyle, not a job. and 2) If he were to front VH, you would then like him again? So you only like Dave when he's playing with the bros.? All of a sudden, to you, he sounds great again and his hair is fabulous!- Right? You are a follower. Grow some balls and live your life on convictions and not what you think is popular choice.
    Great, now I feel sorry for you.

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    Amen!

    Originally posted by Big Troubles
    Sorry but YOUR opinion in "album sales" and the "cover band trying too hard" echoes simplistic theory. Dave doesn't sing for you. He sings for the people that do want him to perform. Regardless of the amount. That's what you don't understand. Dave doesn't care as much for album sales and #1 hits as do the Van Halen's, he simply wants to play and sing HIS music. Van Hagar doesn't do the classics any justice, so Dave does it for them. And does them well.
    So in your opinion he should "retire" if he isn't going to front VH? That's rediculous for 2 reasons. 1) You can't retire from what Dave does. It's a lifestyle, not a job. and 2) If he were to front VH, you would then like him again? So you only like Dave when he's playing with the bros.? All of a sudden, to you, he sounds great again and his hair is fabulous!- Right? You are a follower. Grow some balls and live your life on convictions and not what you think is popular choice.
    Great, now I feel sorry for you.
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    Had to vent there. Didn't mean to show my ugly side. I have been tame lately and the screams are beggin' to be heard!

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    Well, that's why you are Big Troubles...

    Shit, that's why you are a Roth Mod, now.

    Because you're a fellow defender of ROTH.


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    Yeah, and I think I was hitting on your woman the other night too! Sorry. It's this penis attached to me...It makes me do weird fucking things.

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    Just thought Id be honest and give you the heads up. I think we're meeting in Jersey next week for a quick greet. I just didn't want to meet you that way, you know...while were in bed together and shit. That'd be all wrong. So what do you say me and you go for a beer first and then we drop you off somewhere before we "get busy".

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    I just fucking with ya! LOL I love women, don't get me wrong. But I happen to be married to one and I could never do that. Couldn't do it to a bud either. The whole Jersey thing I just made up BTW. I got the story from pete....Check with him, I think he's meeting her. lol

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    You're fucked up in the head, Big T.

    But, hell, that's why I like ya!

    And, I understand the penis thing...happens to me too.

    Weird...

    Don't let your head get any bigger than it is, you'll float away into the ether.

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    Pete?

    bwahahahahaha....

    DaveIsKing rocks because I AM DaveIsKing.

    Surely, you haven't forgotten that, Big T? Not you!

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    Originally posted by DaveIsKing
    You're fucked up in the head, Big T.

    But, hell, that's why I like ya!

    And, I understand the penis thing...happens to me too.

    Weird...

    Don't let your head get any bigger than it is, you'll float away into the ether.
    Yeah Ive been told Im egocentric.

    Not fucked up in the head! More like, just a few steps ahead and turned left when everyone when right. Im not lost, just exploring different thought paths. 9 times out of 10, I catch up to everyone later. But once in awhile a few people come looking for me and enjoy the path they are on as well. Now it's a party! Ok, I'll back off the weed now...

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    Don't back off... SHARE!

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    BT's got it all figured out.

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    Originally posted by Starwood
    BT's got it all figured out.
    why thank ya...

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    Dave didn't have a role in the Sopranos!!
    It was a 2 line cameo with DLR playing himself.
    Please stop referring to that as acting.
    It's insulting to anyone who makes their living as a real actor.


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    Just as you are insulting to real human beings.

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    Originally posted by smaz
    Dave could have, but the company couldn't make it as a film company. Had they not gone bust, we wouldn't be on this site. We'd all be watching Crazy From The Heat and pissing ourselves over and over again.
    What!!!
    Dave could have taken that script to another company but no one wanted it!!
    Did you read that piece of crap when it was posted here?
    It is the worst script I've ever read.
    Dave's humor works in sound bites or in a 3 minute video but not over a 2 hour movie.

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    Dave as an actor....he should be good at it....he's been acting like he's still in VH for the last 18 years. Also, that amazing Sopranos cameo was really pushing the envelope.....give me a break. He should stick with acting like he still has a career.

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    Originally posted by General Hina
    What!!!
    Dave could have taken that script to another company but no one wanted it!!
    Did you read that piece of crap when it was posted here?
    It is the worst script I've ever read.
    Dave's humor works in sound bites or in a 3 minute video but not over a 2 hour movie.

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    I think Sammy is a better actor.
    He was great in The Rose!

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    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
    I think Sammy is a better actor.
    He was great in The Rose!
    I agree.
    I think he was nominated for an Oscar Meyer award for that film.

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    Originally posted by General Hina
    Dave didn't have a role in the Sopranos!!
    It was a 2 line cameo with DLR playing himself.
    Please stop referring to that as acting.
    It's insulting to anyone who makes their living as a real actor.


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    Please stop wasting my man juice by letting it drip out the corners of your mouth like that and off your chin. I saved that jism up just for you.

    Every actor starts out with a two line cameo asshead. That's real life. Nobody is born with a leading role. Now go do your best impersonation of a swollen vagina. You stink and you make-a-me-sick!

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    Dave the actor is an interesting dilema. IMO it would be better for him to break out of his personna and retire a multi-faceted character... I can see him as a tv talk show host -but my preference would be to see him in a movie in some type of serious role. He is probably best suited to be a porn director. But seriously, there are a few hinderances to him having an acting career-like his need to be in control of everything every single moment.

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    Originally posted by Big Troubles


    Every actor starts out with a two line cameo asshead. That's real life.
    Playing yourself in a cameo is not acting.

    DLR has not got what it takes to be an actor as he can only play the fool. That picture of your wife was hot.

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    That picture was funny as hell, BT.

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    My wife says thank you. She's a natural with the poses, but it's a bitch glueing those eyes to her mound.

    Dave playing himself, was not his idea. You are still missing the point. The director put Dave in that situation because it was Daves first role, and figured Dave would be suited best playing Dave. Why on Earth can't you understand that? Don't make me call you more names.
    Seriously, how many acting or Im sorry, "cameo's" have you done lately? And when the Love Boat was in primetime, they had guest appearances by many stars playing themselves. Was that not acting?
    Don't be jealous G Hina. It's an ugly trait.

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    He plays the fool? He plays what the director tells him to play! Fuck your slow! If the director told him to be serious, do you think Dave would stand up and start telling jokes, ala improve, just because that's all Dave knows? Smarten up you super silly butt ugly bastard you...

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    Originally posted by General Hina
    I agree.
    I think he was nominated for an Oscar Meyer award for that film.
    I think Beaches was his best work, personally.

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    Originally posted by Big Troubles
    My wife says thank you. She's a natural with the poses, but it's a bitch glueing those eyes to her mound.

    Dave playing himself, was not his idea. You are still missing the point. The director put Dave in that situation because it was Daves first role, and figured Dave would be suited best playing Dave. Why on Earth can't you understand that? Don't make me call you more names.
    Seriously, how many acting or Im sorry, "cameo's" have you done lately? And when the Love Boat was in primetime, they had guest appearances by many stars playing themselves. Was that not acting?
    Don't be jealous G Hina. It's an ugly trait.
    You've hit the nail on the head.
    Dave's acting is on par with the acting on the "Love Boat"
    Perfect.

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    Originally posted by Hollywood Jesus
    Love to se Dave take a few acting gigs.

    What I'd really like to see is a talk show/variety show. Have all the new starlets and young musicians on for comedy, leering and music. Maybe a little Man Show meets SNL by way of the Daily Show.

    Comedy Central or VH1 should get this cranked up.
    That would fit him perfectly. It would not only be very entertaining, but get Dave back into the public eye. It could also give him a chance to possibly collaborate with other artists and help his album sales.

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