Van Halen Vs. Adele For No. 1

[guwapo_rocker]

They did play "She's The Woman" around 4pm today here in Toronto. The played a shitload of classic Van Halen all day.

Sadly they also played a shitload of Van h***r.

Last played Tattoo around midnight last night.

[Marcus]

Agreed, Tattoo is a cool song. The one thing that could have been better was the official video. That didn't make a great impression on people. The other thing is the mix on ADKOT. The material is awesome but the mix sounds very compressed or "brickwalled" as some have mentioned. But it's still way better than what other classic rock bands are doing.

Anyway I thought Boold And Fire was the next single. Maybe next month? What's the life span of a typical single anyway?

[Panamark]

Surely Interscope would have known about the whole Grammy/Adele thing ?
They either dont care about number 1 or it was a major oversight.

For them to be number 2 in this situation is still awesome.
I think the only reason we gave a shit about this was to bang yet
another nail in the Van Hagar coffin, not to worry, theres still plenty of nails
to hammer in !

[Zing!]

Can't help but wonder if 'Blood & Fire' had been the first single - and released with a more palatable video for the masses - instead of 'Tattoo' if we'd even be having this conversation or wondering who was going to take the #1 spot. My feeling is it would have been no contest with 'Blood & Fire'...or 'The Trouble With Never' for that matter. Or 'Stay Frosty.' Or 'You And Your Blues.' 'Tattoo' seems to have turned off a lot of rock fans who instantly judge an entire record by a single song.

[guwapo_rocker]

Can't help but wonder if 'Blood & Fire' had been the first single - and released with a more palatable video for the masses - instead of 'Tattoo' if we'd even be having this conversation or wondering who was going to take the #1 spot. My feeling is it would have been no contest with 'Blood & Fire'...or 'The Trouble With Never' for that matter. Or 'Stay Frosty.' Or 'You And Your Blues.' 'Tattoo' seems to have turned off a lot of rock fans who instantly judge an entire record by a single song.

I agree, I don't dislike the song, I just think they could have chosen a better first single.

Hey we'll get #1 rock album

[Panamark]

I must be one of the rare people that still rate Tattoo very highely.
Gave me the same chills as Me Wise magic did..

However I can see the arguement for Blood and Fire being the first single .

Whatever happens, at the end of the day we got exactly what we wanted.

Hey and now I know what an Adele is, and definately know I dont want
to buy her album. Sounds like something my Mother would listen to,
not a middle aged man in denial, that still loves his metal !!!

[kingedward]

Looks like we may come up short. Fuck'n bummed, #2 is cool, But it ain't #1.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/...i?news08864m01

[sadaist]

I bet Adele doesn't have a doorbell sign that says, "Bring it, or don't ring it!"

She does if you're the pizza guy.

OMFG!

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

Here's the thing: Tattoo isn't a BAD™©® song PER SE™©®. It's just that it was superfucking UNDERWHELMING™©® in the face of all the ANTICIPATION™©® and pent-up FRUSTRATION™©® of the past 28 years. I think some OLD SCHOOL FANS™©® that heard TATTOO™©® thought, and RIGHTFULLY SO™©®... "MEH™©®!!!"

I heard it and thought, "Fuck! Ok, not bad, but this is not the CUMBACK™©® I was anticipating. Then the snippets came out and I felt more CONFIDENT™©® and EXCITED™©® about the release. Then I get the ALBUM™©® and the rest is history.

Point being, I know some guys at a local auto dealership down here. Guys my age and some younger guys in the service department. And they are always blaring Metallica, Pantera, Ozzy, Van Halen, Motley Fucking Crue, and newer COOKIE-CUTTER™©® shit... Tool/Korn/Linkin/Foo/WStripes/Etc. Anyhow, I visited the shop, and asked who wants to go to the concert. A UNANIMOUS NO THANKS™©®!!!!! Seriously? You bitches don't want to go?!!?! "Naw, man, we heard Tattoo and some snippets, just don't cut it." So... I feel like someone just called MY BABY™©® ugly... I come back a week later with the new disc and put it in the shop stereo. Start cranking up She's The Woman, and by the time HBSD was done, most of the shop was ready to buy a block of seats for the Vegas show.

These guys like, not LOVE™©®, Classic Van Halen. They are aware enough of all the drama and soap opera bullshit to have only a passing interest in the band anymore. Many thought Dave was completely bald coke addict and Edward was still in rehab making pornos (no, not soundtracks, a couple guys "heard" he was IN a porno). WHAT THE FUCK™©®?!?!?

So my point is that it's THESE FANS™©®, the guys with a passing interest who would have been BLOWN AWAY™©® had they first been EXPOSED™©® to a NUTKICKING™©® single. Tattoo could have been the second, third, fourth single. Fine by me. But as the first single, it was a MISCALCULATION™©®.

And let's face it, the SOLO™©® isn't as punchy as the rest of the songs, and the "Tattoo, Tattoo" chorus is weak unless you're Gwapo's or some other Brethren's daycare/grade school age daughters singing along. It just slogs along, and doesn't seem completely fleshed out like ATCWR. But let me not digress, I listen to Tattoo and don't generally skip it, but seriously, it is the weakest of a HUGENORMOUS™©® ROCK COLLECTION™©®. And that choice of single, along with the release date not being a few weeks earlier in the year, all contribute to a No. 2 debut.

That is all.

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[sadaist]

I don't get all the Tattoo complaints.

You want the real truth?

We all listened to it while watching that crappy video they made. So the video made it sound worse than it is. If you can forget about the video & just listen to the song it's great. Hard to unsee things though. First impressions & all.

Plus, as well, another thing, & also....the very first listen we got was a 30 second clip that was the worst 30 sec clip you could pick to represent the song. Again, first impressions linger.

[sadaist]

That is all.

Icon™©®

Not so fucking fast.























How do you type the tm, c & r?

[Panamark]

Im not so sure a different first single would have had the impetus to beat
the whole Grammy/Adele thing. Too much momentum there. Not sure any
release would have beaten it. Not even Whitney Houston passing away.

[Matt White]

Went with the GFS 9yr old son to the local Hockey Store/haven to get the skates sharpened Sunday...and to get a new equpiment bag....

What was playing in the store???

Complimented the owner for having the good taste to play ADKOT on his stero system for the entire store to enjoy....

And the Kid asked me today to put ADKOT on his Ipod so he could listen to it anytime...rather than just when he's in my car!!!

Smart kid, he's gonna go far!!!

[kingedward]

Brethren and Sistren,

Here's the thing: Tattoo isn't a BAD™©® song PER SE™©®. It's just that it was superfucking UNDERWHELMING™©® in the face of all the ANTICIPATION™©® and pent-up FRUSTRATION™©® of the past 28 years. I think some OLD SCHOOL FANS™©® that heard TATTOO™©® thought, and RIGHTFULLY SO™©®... "MEH™©®!!!"

I heard it and thought, "Fuck! Ok, not bad, but this is not the CUMBACK™©® I was anticipating. Then the snippets came out and I felt more CONFIDENT™©® and EXCITED™©® about the release. Then I get the ALBUM™©® and the rest is history.

Point being, I know some guys at a local auto dealership down here. Guys my age and some younger guys in the service department. And they are always blaring Metallica, Pantera, Ozzy, Van Halen, Motley Fucking Crue, and newer COOKIE-CUTTER™©® shit... Tool/Korn/Linkin/Foo/WStripes/Etc. Anyhow, I visited the shop, and asked who wants to go to the concert. A UNANIMOUS NO THANKS™©®!!!!! Seriously? You bitches don't want to go?!!?! "Naw, man, we heard Tattoo and some snippets, just don't cut it." So... I feel like someone just called MY BABY™©® ugly... I come back a week later with the new disc and put it in the shop stereo. Start cranking up She's The Woman, and by the time HBSD was done, most of the shop was ready to buy a block of seats for the Vegas show.

These guys like, not LOVE™©®, Classic Van Halen. They are aware enough of all the drama and soap opera bullshit to have only a passing interest in the band anymore. Many thought Dave was completely bald coke addict and Edward was still in rehab making pornos (no, not soundtracks, a couple guys "heard" he was IN a porno). WHAT THE FUCK™©®?!?!?

So my point is that it's THESE FANS™©®, the guys with a passing interest who would have been BLOWN AWAY™©® had they first been EXPOSED™©® to a NUTKICKING™©® single. Tattoo could have been the second, third, fourth single. Fine by me. But as the first single, it was a MISCALCULATION™©®.

And let's face it, the SOLO™©® isn't as punchy as the rest of the songs, and the "Tattoo, Tattoo" chorus is weak unless you're Gwapo's or some other Brethren's daycare/grade school age daughters singing along. It just slogs along, and doesn't seem completely fleshed out like ATCWR. But let me not digress, I listen to Tattoo and don't generally skip it, but seriously, it is the weakest of a HUGENORMOUS™©® ROCK COLLECTION™©®. And that choice of single, along with the release date not being a few weeks earlier in the year, all contribute to a No. 2 debut.

That is all.

Icon™©®

Yeah, I have some clowns around my shop. Tattoo, Sucks, This and that, Whatever. I buy the CD, Throw it in my high end car rig, Pull up to the shop. They come out, I crank B and F. Everyone says, "Why is'nt that on the radio" Fuck if I know.

[kingedward]

You want the real truth?

We all listened to it while watching that crappy video they made. So the video made it sound worse than it is. If you can forget about the video & just listen to the song it's great. Hard to unsee things though. First impressions & all.

Plus, as well, another thing, & also....the very first listen we got was a 30 second clip that was the worst 30 sec clip you could pick to represent the song. Again, first impressions linger.

I like hearing it on the CD, It certainly does not reveal whats coming. Which is cool.

[ashstralia]

sada, there's all sorts of wonderful stuff lurking in your putermachine...

✄☂☃☞

[Seshmeister]

Looks like we may come up short. Fuck'n bummed, #2 is cool, But it ain't #1.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/...i?news08864m01

So according to that Adeles sales doubled due to the Grammy's otherwise Van Halen would have been #1 quite easily.

[degüello]

I didn't hear any crappy online previews. I purposely avoided them, as well as any discussions. I wanted to be able to drive my car and listen to the entire album in a lossless format, with fresh ears and nobody's opinions in my mind.

It was worth the wait!

Also, re. Tattoo: seems the strategy was/is to allow time for things to build and save the "deeper" singles for later.

[sadaist]

☃

Stay Frosty has ben lurking in there his whole time? Summabitch!


*What the fuck?! I can't even quote your frosty guy correctly. And you think I'm gonna be able to find this shit in my own computer to use? You make me laugh sir. You give me way to much credit.

[VHscraps]

You want the real truth?

We all listened to it while watching that crappy video they made. So the video made it sound worse than it is. If you can forget about the video & just listen to the song it's great. Hard to unsee things though. First impressions & all.

Plus, as well, another thing, & also....the very first listen we got was a 30 second clip that was the worst 30 sec clip you could pick to represent the song. Again, first impressions linger.

Yeah, the 30-second clip was totally underwhelming. But a few days later, after I was thinking 'shit', my brother called me and said the clip was really misleading.

Wasn't the best vid, I grant you that. As someone else on here said at the time - if tney'd shot a vid of some abstract shit, or even strippers sliding down a pole, it would've changed a lot of people's perceptions of the song.

[Panamark]

Not so fucking fast.

How do you type the tm, c & r?

Fucked if I know how he does that ? ©™®

[kingedward]

So according to that Adeles sales doubled due to the Grammy's otherwise Van Halen would have been #1 quite easily.

That show did waaay, More than I thought I would or could. Looks like all numbers not all in. Actually, ADKOT hung in there, Against a pretty big onslaught. Tough to hang against all the TOP 40 Bullshit. I though Macartney might move to #2. That ain't gonna happen. Guess a band not around for 3 decades, Hanging in there in the top five is a nice accomplishment. Only DLR/VH could have pulled it off. Of course, The record Rocks, So all is well.

[SunisinuS]

Just because I have no power: They should have released "You and Your Blues" first. Would have hit the chicks, the VSpam fans, and let us real VH fans build to the rest of the album.

VSpam Fans would love the riff, the Chicks would have dug the beat and the harmonies, and we would have loved the fact that that was the best way to sand-bag them over "Tattoo".

Getting rid of you and your Biebers right in time for Summer.... Window Open Top Down...that girl smiling at you again.....


Damn where is that girl?

[neuralfraud]

Not so fucking fast.

















How do you type the tm, c & r?

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[Marcus]

I've encountered the same thing. Some friends who are more casual fans heard Tattoo and said it was just OK. Then they buy ADKOT and unamimously say that it's awesome. After my cousin heard it he told me it makes him want to crank it in a 1979 T-top firebird. When's the last time any new CD made you feel like that? lol...

There's plenty of juice in this CD. A couple of more singles at least that will turn some heads. Tour hasn't even started folks! Decent start...now bring out the heavy hitters...

[slowhand]

I'm not too worried about whether or not ADKOT goes #1. It would be nice to see, but really doesn't matter. Seeing as Kidz Bop 21 is #5 right now, it just shows how much of a joke it is. I know it's a good album, we all know it is. I could care less if I'm the only one in the world who bought it. Interestingly though I keep seeing this ad beside youtube videos.

[FORD]

Geezus, haven't you guys ever heard of Character Map? It's been part of Windows since 3.1

I know there's always been something similar in most of the Linux distros I've used, and I'm guessing Mac has to have something like that.

Just search for "charmap.exe" on your windows drive, and you'll find all kinds of cool shit.

@©®¶§™Ω

[Panamark]

Not so fucking fast.

http://www.copywriting-on-demand.com...ght-symbol.htm

[IceCreamBlondie]

I still don't understand & no one has tried to enlighten me as of yet.


Grammy telecast was Sunday night. Billboard sales cutoff is Sunday night at midnight. Are they saying that in the 2 hours (or less) after the Grammys ended that they expected enough buzz from this fat chick to drive people out to their 24-hour Walmart to snap it up as fast as they could? I figure people watch the Grammys in their sweats on the couch with a blanket. Not in any type of mode to head out for some last minute shopping trip for something they can easily get the next day.

Or is it that last 2 hours of online album sales? Either way I don't see it happening that way. If she retains the #1 spot it won't be because of the last 2 hours of Sunday night.

Good point - hadn't thought of that one. VH deserves to be no. 1!!!

[sadaist]

I'm not too worried about whether or not ADKOT goes #1. It would be nice to see, but really doesn't matter. Seeing as Kidz Bop 21 is #5 right now, it just shows how much of a joke it is. I know it's a good album, we all know it is. I could care less if I'm the only one in the world who bought it. Interestingly though I keep seeing this ad beside youtube videos.

Yeah me too. Cool ad. Mine have been coming up as the bar on the bottom 1/8 of a video.

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

FORD is CORRECT™©® regarding WIDOZE™©® CHARMAP™©®... On the venerable MACBOOK PRO™©® there is a nifty application of similar import called CHARACTER VIEWER™©® which, unlike CHARMAP™©® will hover over any open window and allow for immediate POINT-AND-CLICK™©® INSERTION™©®.

Some additional characters include PICTOGRAPHS™©®, BULLETS™©®, EMOJI™©®, MATH™©®, and VARIOUS™©® such as I use.

℠℗№5ªª℔℥ℨℬµΩ℉℀℅℞℃☀STAYFROSTY☃☃☂♂♀♇⚚☯✔∱⨸♋

That is all.

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[IceCreamBlondie]

So, tomorrow's the big day...I've got my fingers crossed! Let VH SHINE at Number one!!

Agreed that Blood and Fire or You and Your Blues should have been the first single...those songs are AWESOME and they ROCK HARD!

Waiting for the results.....

[K1469]

I saw a post online saying Adele sold 240,000 new cds this week?!!!! It said Van Halen sold 188,000. I sure hope its not true cause she only sold 133,000 last week and Van Halen could have been #1 , I know it doesnt really matter but I sure wanted them to be able to say it went #1. Hope that page was wrong.

[Panamark]

Brethren and Sistren,

FORD is CORRECT™©® regarding WIDOZE™©® CHARMAP™©®... On the venerable MACBOOK PRO™©® there is a nifty application of similar import called CHARACTER VIEWER™©® which, unlike CHARMAP™©® will hover over any open window and allow for immediate POINT-AND-CLICK™©® INSERTION™©®.

Some additional characters include PICTOGRAPHS™©®, BULLETS™©®, EMOJI™©®, MATH™©®, and VARIOUS™©® such as I use.

℠℗№5ªª℔℥ℨℬµΩ℉℀℅℞℃☀STAYFROSTY☃☃☂♂♀♇⚚☯✔∱⨸♋

That is all.

Icon™©®

Then theres keyboard remapping. Take the scan codes and assign new
ones to any key you like. The whole keyboard layout is stored
as a string in the registry. Just edit that with the right tools
and you are away ! I have remapped keys using this
method for security reasons.

But - Good practical joke possibilities here !

Think of your drunk friend with all keycodes shifted
one place to the right ??

Your copyright etc symbols can be coded to singular keys...

[VH78-84]

Of Course Adele is going to be #1, after being milked at the Grammys with not even an appearance from Van Halen. You also got the Kiddy through High School Teeny Boppers who know Adele from Radio Air play from shitty today’s hits pop radio stations and teenage publications with lots of kids under 18 not knowing who Van Halen is with lots of them being so close minded they won’t listen to anything before 2000. Adults are following Adele like sheep and eating in her popularity like color-coded candy! It’s too bad we got shows like American Idol and X-factor to promote crappy music feeding people to buy and download it! I’ll give Adele credit, she can sing, but she could never compete with Dave, VH and Kick ass Rock n’ Roll! If ADKOT was release a month a go or even next month, it would easily hit #1, but unfortunately 2012 “The Adele Grammys” didn’t help!

[DavidLeeNatra]

[Mrkramer]

Well here in Australia ADKOT came in @ number 4 first week in.... Fucking awesome

[kentuckyklira]

Talented? Maybe, but every time I'm subjected to "Someone Like You" all I hear is a lonely hound dog. Damnit to hell, I would think after 19 weeks at number one, everybody who would even want her album would already have it.

Depressed suicidal man-hating chicks probably have too many "important" things on their mind to remember that they already have the album so they go and get another one!

[ELVIS]

Who give's a fuck if this album doesn't go to pop-teenybopper-bullshit-justinbuttocks-homofucking-number-one-fairyland ??

This is real music !!

It's an honor for it not to make it...

[Panamark]

Someone had their CD player on Shuffle and that poor dog went from
Kenny G to China Town !