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    Kramer Frankie #28 for sale?

    Pete from @iheartguitar just sent this to me on Twitter: "So, uh...this is available..."

    http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewto...p?f=6&t=112709




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    Man I wish I was rich. I really want this. Fuck!

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    I've NEVER seen that guitar before...

    Could be a fake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I've NEVER seen that guitar before...
    what on earth would you need a guitar for, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I've NEVER seen that guitar before...

    Could be a fake...

    Hmm....I can't ramble off all of Eddies guitars like some of you can, but man...I wish this were real. I'd like to think the story & guitar are 100% authentic cause that would be so fucking cool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashstralia View Post
    what on earth would you need a guitar for, anyway?

    Coffee table



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    that limited run ed (fender?) made with the original reflectors, burn marks, and 1971 quarter was cool...

    i'd love to be the guy in charge of maintaining them every couple of years.
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    I DO remember that guitar...from an early KRAMER ad..........


    I'd buy it in a heartbeat!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt White View Post
    I DO remember that guitar...from an early KRAMER ad..........


    I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

    Yep, I remember that ad too...I was still in high school and drooling over Kramers...that ad came out before I got my Voyager, I remember seeing it hanging in the only Kramer dealer in town's shop...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt White View Post
    I DO remember that guitar...from an early KRAMER ad..........


    I'd buy it in a heartbeat!
    That's not that guitar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    That's not that guitar...
    and you are not elvis......
    I want my music waking up the dead.....dont tell me to turn it down

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    That's not that guitar...
    You Sir are correct!!!

    Further inspection shows the 2 guitars are slightly different...................

    assuming that this is indeed one of EVH's stock of old KRAMERS.....................I'd still like to see the price tag..........


    would be a VERY cool fiddle to have....none the less

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    Six figures...

    And they are way more than "slightly different"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    That's not that guitar...
    Nope.

    But does anyone remember another pic of Eddie almost identical to the ad above, but he is wearing the 'No Bozos' shirt? That was my all time fav pic of Eddie.

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    Yes, but still not the same guitar...

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    You would think Rudy would have mentioned this, but was this the guitar Ed used in the HFT vid?

    I don't ever recall seeing the #28 before. Have to thumb through the Zloz books and see if it's there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zing! View Post
    You would think Rudy would have mentioned this, but was this the guitar Ed used in the HFT vid?
    No, not at all...

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    Is there a definite timeline for when Ed began using/endorsing Kramer? I thought that was after the Diver Down tour but before the recording of 1984. The wiki article on it is kind of vague.

    A chance encounter between Dennis Berardi and Eddie Van Halen's managers on an airplane flight set the foundation for Kramer's meteoric rise in the 1980s. Eddie was interested in a tremolo that stayed in tune, which the Rockinger system offered. A meeting between Eddie Van Halen and Kramer execs took place, and Eddie was sold. At the meeting, he reportedly quipped that he would help make Kramer the "#1 guitar company in the world."

    By 1983 the Rockinger tremolo (sometimes dubbed "The Eddie Van Halen tremolo") had been widely replaced by the Floyd Rose system. In addition, Kramer once again offered Schaller tuners on their guitars, tapping Schaller to produce Floyd Rose tremolos as well. Kramer was the only guitar company offering Original Floyd Rose tremolos stock on their production guitars, a competitive advantage of Kramer over other guitar manufacturers of the period.

    In late 1983 Kramer switched from the "beak" headstock design to the Gibson Explorer-like "banana" headstock design. This distinctive look also helped rank Kramer highly with guitar enthusiasts. One notable Kramer guitar was the Baretta model, which was a single-humbucker instrument similar to guitars Eddie Van Halen used on stage. The Kramer Baretta was the flagship of the Kramer line and helped popularize the single-pickup 1980s guitar design.

    By late 1985 Kramer began installing Seymour Duncan pickups in its guitars, in favor over the more vintage-sounding Schaller pickups. When the sales figures came in, Kramer was the best-selling guitar brand of 1985.

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    Ed began working with Kramer in 1982 when the Floyd was pretty much unique to Kramer...

    The endorsements began in 1983...

    The guitar in question does seem to be a period correct Kramer with a correct early Floyd...



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    If this is real, and I'm of the opinion that it is, holy shit what a cool piece! This was used to record 1984?! Incredible!! I'd play the shit out of that thing!!
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    I thought I might have a pic of the guitar in question taken at a Hard Rock about 15 years ago, but it's not the same. Still a cool pic though - even if it IS from the dark years ('86 according the sign).

    First time my dumb ass has figured out how to upload a pic by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zing! View Post
    I thought I might have a pic of the guitar in question taken at a Hard Rock about 15 years ago, but it's not the same. Still a cool pic though - even if it IS from the dark years ('86 according the sign).

    First time my dumb ass has figured out how to upload a pic by the way.


    The Hard Rock RESTAURANT in Vegas (across parking lot from the casino) has/had a DLR guitar. All sparkly & such. Was very cool. I took a pic of it but no idea where it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAiN View Post
    If this is real, and I'm of the opinion that it is, holy shit what a cool piece! This was used to record 1984?! Incredible!! I'd play the shit out of that thing!!
    It may have belonged to Ed, but if this was a guitar he actually used there would be a photo of it somewhere...

    Ed used his Frankenstrat to record 1984 along with a Gibson Flying V on Hot for Teacher and that other guitar (I forget which one) for I'll Wait...

    I have never heard of a Kramer being used for recording, and I (as have others) have followed this my whole life...

    For now, I'm calling fake!



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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    It may have belonged to Ed, but if this was a guitar he actually used there would be a photo of it somewhere...

    Ed used his Frankenstrat to record 1984 along with a Gibson Flying V on Hot for Teacher and that other guitar (I forget which one) for I'll Wait...

    I have never heard of a Kramer being used for recording, and I (as have others) have followed this my whole life...

    For now, I'm calling fake!


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    I meant on Van Halen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I meant on Van Halen...
    I know bro. My bad.

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    I have a picture that has all the Franks and this one is Not pictured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Yep, I remember that ad too...I was still in high school and drooling over Kramers...that ad came out before I got my Voyager, I remember seeing it hanging in the only Kramer dealer in town's shop...


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    The dumbest move I ever made was trading a beautiful Gibson Les Paul Custom for a Krammer. That Les Paul was a chunk but man did it sound great.

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    that could be a whole other thread mate.

    i reckon we've all let some beauties slip away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The dumbest move I ever made was trading a beautiful Gibson Les Paul Custom for a Krammer. That Les Paul was a chunk but man did it sound great.
    I loved the way my Voyager looked (which is why I held on to the body all these years) and it sounded OK, but the beak-headstock neck was like a baseball bat...the opposite of wood-inducing wood, had ditched it by like '86...

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    Btw, new neck = schwing!




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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    Nope.

    But does anyone remember another pic of Eddie almost identical to the ad above, but he is wearing the 'No Bozos' shirt? That was my all time fav pic of Eddie.


    My mistake. He wasn't holding a Frankie at all.




    Maybe I was thinking of this one. But that's the original guitar.


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    The 'No Bozos' ad sold tons of Barettas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    The 'No Bozos' ad sold tons of Barettas...
    Not me. My dream....damn dude maybe you remember this....all through 4 years of high school in the 80's I had that Charvel model line-up brochure in my back pocket. I want model #6! Shit, now I want model #3! I forget which one I mostly wanted, but it was white. Never did get it though :-(

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    Those Charvels were not all that...

    Neither were thr Kramers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    Not me. My dream....damn dude maybe you remember this....all through 4 years of high school in the 80's I had that Charvel model line-up brochure in my back pocket. I want model #6! Shit, now I want model #3! I forget which one I mostly wanted, but it was white. Never did get it though :-(
    Totally remember. Those were the 1st Charvels made after they sold to IMC (same company that made...Hondos...ugh), and while they weren't complete crap, they paled in comparison to the USA Charvels. The Kramers wre kind of hit and miss too - some were ESP parts, some weren't.





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    Edward's Kramers had ESP made necks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    The 'No Bozos' ad sold tons of Barettas...

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    Yep - I bought one back in the day based on that ad alone. Wish I would have held on to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zing! View Post
    Yep - I bought one back in the day based on that ad alone. Wish I would have held on to it.
    They were hit-and-miss too...one of my friends had one that was amazing, another friend got one shortly thereafter on which the bridge stud-mounting holes for the Floyd were drilled incorrectly - the thing was incapable of being intonated properly! Hell, even on my Voyager, which played fine, there was an out-of-the-box electronic error that somehow made it through QC...whoever wired it had dropped solder on the main wire bundle, had a nice short the first time I plugged it in...

    Paul Unkert was building these (including the one in the OP, had ELBOW bothered to read the RT thread) for EVH, though so imagining they had none of the errors the ones off the line did.

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