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    Trump sons’ wild killing spree causes outrage

    http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/trump...rage-1.1259664
    March 19 2012 at 02:37pm



    Donald Trump Jr with the tail of a slain elephant while on a hunting safari in Zimbabwe two years ago. He claims to have done 'nothing wrong'.



    PHOTOGRAPHS of the sons of US billionaire Donald Trump posing over wild animals after killing them in Zimbabwe have caused a storm of outrage among animal conservation groups and on social networking sites.

    The pictures, taken two years ago during a hunting trip in Zimbabwe, show Eric and Donald Trump Jr and tour guides next to carcasses of a leopard, a crocodile, a water buffalo, a civet, a kudu and an array of other animals.

    In one of the pictures, Donald Jr holds a severed elephant tail while grasping a knife in his other hand. In another he and his brother are holding up a leopard’s carcass, and in another the brothers pose beside a crocodile suspended from a tree.

    The trip was organised by Hunting Legends International, a Pretoria company that specialises in big-game hunting tailored for wealthy clients in Europe, the Middle East and the US.

    After the pictures went viral on the internet, thousands chastised the Trump brothers on Twitter and Facebook while animal conservation groups were “outraged” by the pictures. The pictures were also rebuked by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (Peta).

    Donald Trump Jr took to Twitter this weekend to defend

    himself against a shoal of complaints from users. He said the hunting was sanctioned by the Zimbabwean government and that it was legal.

    “In the area I was in, the wildlife board wanted to decrease the numbers for the benefit of the herd. Like liberal deer limits,” he said in one tweet.

    “I don’t apologise to cater to public opinion when I did nothing wrong. To do so would be to sell myself out… There are no legal issues at stake,” he tweeted.

    “Second, as for PR I’m a hunter I won’t cower from that because of some losers,” Trump continued.

    He said the money would be used to fund nature conservation in Zimbabwe.

    Stephen Lamb of Touching the Earth Lightly said he was outraged by the pictures and e-mailed a complaint to Hunting Legends.

    “Hunting as an activity was there for a reason. It was there for human life sustenance, for people to eat. People who lived in tune with nature and understood their place in it,” Lamb said.

    “In a traditional hunter-gatherer sense it was acceptable, but these days are mostly over.

    “In a world where we are trying to save animals from extinction, trophy hunting has no place on this planet.

    “Conservation is fundamentally a pro-life philosophy, one that respects all things living, equally. Conservation does not need the blood money of rich people who kill for pleasure.

    “What conservation initiatives were funded by this killing, and who endorses them?

    “Considering Zimbabwe’s legacy of corruption, these are the questions that must be asked. It’s all too easy to use the ‘it’s for conservation’ line,” Lamb said.

    In response to Trump Jr’s statement that hunting was because of an overpopulation of the animals in Zimbabwe, Lamb said other measures such as relocation could be considered, and culling was always a last resort. “If you do have to cull, do it in a way that will show respect to the animals.

    “Standing over an animal, smiling, with its tail in your hand is not one of them.”

    Hunting Legends International’s Phillip Mostert said the hunt took place in the Matetsi Hunting Area near the Victoria Falls.

    He said that it was legal and ethically conducted as prescribed by industry norms and regulations.
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    I've seen that arrogant little prick on his daddy's dumb TV show. He's just got that look of somebody that even Jesus or Ghandi would want to punch him in the face the moment they saw him.
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    I want to blindfold him & drop him in the middle of no where. And then inform him he has 1 hour head start. And the 10 hunters behind me know it's Trump season. Let's hunt down this fucker and see if he appreciates life a little more as his is being cut out of him.

    I fucking HATE the killing of animals. I don't even kill spiders or bees. I'll scoop em up & place them outside. When I was doing pool service, every single bug, critter, creature that I saw struggling to live I made sure to carefully rescue & place off in the bushes or grass. Why is one life worth less than any other?

    2 reasons to kill something. For food and self defense.

    I don't buy the donated the elephant to a local village to eat story for a god damned second. The Trumps could have spent the same amount of money as they paid for their hunting trip to buy rice & grains for that same village & fed a lot more people. Just disgusting.

    And the photos of the 2 kids with all the dead animals thinking they are big tough men. MOTHERFUCKERS! I swear man, I haven't wanted to break someones nose & smash it into their smug face so bad ever.

    Grotesque.

    These fuckers are going to have to answer to these souls when they die. They better come up with a better excuse than a cool photo op.
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    =sadaist;1633254]I want to blindfold him & drop him in the middle of no where. And then inform him he has 1 hour head start. And the 10 hunters behind me know it's Trump season. Let's hunt down this fucker and see if he appreciates life a little more as his is being cut out of him.

    I fucking HATE the killing of animals. I don't even kill spiders or bees. I'll scoop em up & place them outside. When I was doing pool service, every single bug, critter, creature that I saw struggling to live I made sure to carefully rescue & place off in the bushes or grass. Why is one life worth less than any other?

    2 reasons to kill something. For food and self defense.

    I don't buy the donated the elephant to a local village to eat story for a god damned second. The Trumps could have spent the same amount of money as they paid for their hunting trip to buy rice & grains for that same village & fed a lot more people. Just disgusting.

    And the photos of the 2 kids with all the dead animals thinking they are big tough men. MOTHERFUCKERS! I swear man, I haven't wanted to break someones nose & smash it into their smug face so bad ever.

    Grotesque.

    These fuckers are going to have to answer to these souls when they die. They better come up with a better excuse than a cool photo op.
    I cannot find the words in English, sorry. So I will quote Sadaist because I feel the same.
    I have just a few words in spanish to The Trumps: HIJOS DE PUTA Y LA PUTA MADRE QUE LOS PARIÓ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katina View Post
    I cannot find the words in English, sorry. So I will quote Sadaist because I feel the same.
    I have just a few words in spanish to The Trumps: HIJOS DE PUTA Y LA PUTA MADRE QUE LOS PARIÓ.
    As if you Argentinians are any better......if I'm not mistaken between 40-60% of the Argemtinians
    Hunt.......
    Hunting is in your blood
    Get over it!!!
    By the way there is no better BBQ than when u experience
    a Argentinian one
    Fuck they grill a mean piece of meat
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    moose;1633400]As if you Argentinians are any better......if I'm not mistaken between 40-60% of the Argemtinians
    Hunt.......
    Hunting is in your blood
    Get over it!!!
    By the way there is no better BBQ than when u experience
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    Fuck they grill a mean piece of meat
    In two of your post you wrote: "And I can guarantee that if any of you Fuckers had the money NONE and I mean none of you would go to Africa". Well, I have been in Africa, I have friends in Africa. One time I was a week at Addo Elephant National Park of South Africa. I followed the steps of the herd, ten metres away, by day and nigths. The Park was created in 1931 to protect the remainig 11 elephants...and other species....do you guess why???
    The main point here is about The Trumps, standing over an animal, smiling with an elephant´s tail in the hand, trading 50.000$ for meat to the poor people of Zimbabwe? This is a joke. People as animals deserve respect, alive and dead.
    You can realize that English is not my first language, so I wrote to The Trumps:Hijos de Puta y la Puta Madre que los Parió, but I insulted The Trumps, the individuals, not their Country or their inhabitants. You quoted me and wrote: As if you Argentinians are any better...Mr. Moose: you are insulting the whole people of Argentina, and the Country. Do you want insult me?, is fair. You also said 40-60% of argentinians hunt...., hunting is in our blood??? What did you mean??? We are mostly indians living on a tree?? Hunting, with bow an arrow? You insult again. Weapons, guns are prohibited in this Country, nobody has a gun, only in some rural areas, mostly for protection, rarely for hunting related with tourism in controlled places. I don´t know any argentinian hunter. You mention our famous BBQ, "asado" in Spanish, Braai in Afrikaans, just animal meat industry, it´s a product nothing related with hunting. Please back to topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Trump Jr’s statement that hunting was because of an overpopulation

    If that is the reasoning he better head off to China and get to work on the billion+ there. Fucking weak go-to excuse to justify taking a life. Fucking little spoiled cocksucker. I wanna smash his face in.......due to Trump overpopulation of course.

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    I don't think anyone who eats meat can object much to people shooting deer but rich kids paying money to shoot a leopard or an elephant is sick shit.

    Saying it was for food is obviously complete fucking bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I don't think anyone who eats meat can object much to people shooting deer but rich kids paying money to shoot a leopard or an elephant is sick shit.

    Saying it was for food is obviously complete fucking bullshit.
    Agreed.
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    Bill Maher had a good line about this prick. "When you cut off an elephant's tail, you can see the asshole. The asshole is the one with the tail in one hand and machete in the other."
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    Original article is from South Africa btw, hardly a bastion of PETA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Bill Maher had a good line about this prick. "When you cut off an elephant's tail, you can see the asshole. The asshole is the one with the tail in one hand and machete in the other."
    This is the guy your parents told you to stay away from and look what happened, just like they said, you been hipmotize by a TV Show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarathecarrot View Post
    This is the guy your parents told you to stay away from and look what happened, just like they said, you been hipmotize by a TV Show.
    I ain't been hipmotized by no TV show! 'Cept maybe the first 5 minutes of the Jon Stewart show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I don't think anyone who eats meat can object much to people shooting deer but rich kids paying money to shoot a leopard or an elephant is sick shit.

    Saying it was for food is obviously complete fucking bullshit.
    100%! I don't find anything wrong with legitimate hunting, but killing endangered species is fucking sick. These guys should suffer til the end of their lives for this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    100%! I don't find anything wrong with legitimate hunting, but killing endangered species is fucking sick. These guys should suffer til the end of their lives for this...
    Elephants r NOT endangered
    As a matter of fact they have become a nusance hence the culling of said elephants
    The problem in Africa is the EXPLODING POPULATION And POACHING
    The only BIG GAME animal endangered in Africa is the Black and white rhino
    And they auction off a few tags a year to generate money to protect these animals through hunting

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose View Post
    Elephants r NOT endangered
    As a matter of fact they have become a nuisance hence the culling of said elephants

    Chinese people are not endangered, are overpopulated & becoming a nuisance as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    Chinese people are not endangered, are overpopulated & becoming a nuisance as well.
    Watch it you might get banned for being a racist
    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose View Post
    Elephants r NOT endangered
    As a matter of fact they have become a nusance hence the culling of said elephants
    A bullshit technicality. Elephant poachers nearly eradicated the species by the 1970s reducing populations in Chad from 400,000 to 10,000 according to Wiki. They only rebounded DUE TO STRICT PROHIBITIONS ON HUNTING AND THE IVORY TRADE!!

    The problem in Africa is the EXPLODING POPULATION And POACHING
    The only BIG GAME animal endangered in Africa is the Black and white rhino
    And they auction off a few tags a year to generate money to protect these animals through hunting
    There are a lot of problems in Africa. The elephant once suffered much of the same poaching pressures as the rhino does today...

    In the end, you're just making excuses for inheriting, rich assholes behaving badly. If they want to feed a fucking African village, there's vast means that their wealth would be more efficient rather than running around getting their cocks hard by shooting elephants...

    If they really want to help Africans, THEN HUNT THE ULTIMATE GAME--MAN!!! Go out and shoot one of the evil warlord cunts that rape, kidnap children for soldiers, and generally terrorize by wantonly killing whomever stands in their way....but selfish, pampered pussies like the Trump bastard children would never actually go after something that would shoot back....
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    Quote Originally Posted by moose View Post
    Elephants r NOT endangered
    http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/12392/0

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    Propaganda bro all propaganda...................

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    I've been watching a bit of the US Celebrity Apprentice this season because there are a couple of people I quite like on it and I'm really struck by how mediocre Trump is.

    He's no great fountain of smart wisdom, he makes the UK guy Alan Sugar seem like a fucking guru and he's a bit laughable although at least self made.

    Both of them pretty much failed and then were saved by the massive property boom as far as I can make out.

    Trump of course is the guy that inherited $300 million and managed to go bankrupt. That's beyond fucking Brewsters Millions so I'm guessing his sexcrement are going to be even less use.

    That family are a great advert for brutal 95% inheritance taxation for the very rich.
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    Not sure I get why all the hoopla over a hunt two years ago... not to mention these rich bastard safari hunts go on all the time. They even issue permits to farms/private preserves to literally farm big game specifically for these type of hunts. It's big business and been going on a couple hundreds years now...
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    It is always nice to say to not kill, but those people are ...assinine..( who even knows how to spell that word ?)

    We should kill the Whales first that Krill is going to be needed to feed humans 50 years from now.

    Watch and see... "Whale, with a side of delicious Krill, the other, other, pink meats." It's what's for dinner.

    Then the PETA people.. I mean they can't be happy all covered with that living skin and meat all over thier bodies.

    Fight The Power.
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    I wonder if elephant tail soup tastes like ox tail soup? I keep hearing the african elephant is going extinct. They used to sell ivory in Hong Kong when we lived there. The chopsticks at the Royal Hong Kong Jockey Club were always real ivory. Now they have even banned ivory over there now because the trade was wiping out the elephants.

    I would like to hunt Ivanka Trump's tail.
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    I love all these Peta people with leather shoes, leather belts, and leather designer hand bags.

    I'm all for treating animals decently but they are still animals. I'm not a trophy hunter. I never believed in that. If you kill it use it. Go back to the old native american philosophy. The thing is and the reality is, when you have man encroaching on wild habitats you have to manage these animals. If you just let wild boars reproduce at will you then have an infestation of them and even the most die hard PETA person will yell kill! kill! kill! when they get attacked by boars on their little nature trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I love all these Peta people with leather shoes, leather belts, and leather designer hand bags.

    I'm all for treating animals decently but they are still animals. I'm not a trophy hunter. I never believed in that. If you kill it use it. Go back to the old native american philosophy. The thing is and the reality is, when you have man encroaching on wild habitats you have to manage these animals. If you just let wild boars reproduce at will you then have an infestation of them and even the most die hard PETA person will yell kill! kill! kill! when they get attacked by boars on their little nature trail.
    Best people, are the condesending ones with the biggest dissorder of..It wasn't the Sharks fault, I don't blame the Rabbid Dog for eating my arm...yeah, right buddy it was all your fault..cunts.

    Kill that goddamn dog and hunt that shark down.

    Hollywood and many dissturbed people are/ is sick with elevating animals above humans.

    I welcome anyone to read my posts in this thread and honor me with a debate on this subject.

    I will just state the fact that if you want to live with nature and move to Montana...etc,.. don't be all faggotty when the Bear eats all three of your children...If you don't give your 3 year old a 44 mag for protection.. to go play with the cat in the back yard your a bad parent.

    P.S. They all do, they just act in the press like they don't..that is why they are all cunts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I'm all for treating animals decently but they are still animals. I'm not a trophy hunter. I never believed in that. If you kill it use it. Go back to the old native american philosophy. The thing is and the reality is, when you have man encroaching on wild habitats you have to manage these animals. If you just let wild boars reproduce at will you then have an infestation of them and even the most die hard PETA person will yell kill! kill! kill! when they get attacked by boars on their little nature trail.
    Right on. I'm no vegetarian so I will not speak against people who hunt for food. They tend to eat the whole animal or most of it as opposed to us civilized folks who raise large population of animals just so we can eat certain parts, i.e., chicken boneless/skinless chicken breast. The hunters are less wasteful. On the other hand, it's obnoxious to kill an elephant, lion or cheetah. I don't think those animals are overpopulated.
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    Bears don't eat people. They just kill you and rip you up a bit. I live right where we get bear warnings. We can't put any food out or even have bird seed in bird feeders because it attracts bears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Bears don't eat people. They just kill you and rip you up a bit. I live right where we get bear warnings. We can't put any food out or even have bird seed in bird feeders because it attracts bears.
    For the most part, bears will leave you alone if you leave them alone. Just never get between a bear and his food. Or a mama bear and her cub. In those two situations, the bear considers you a threat, and then you're fucked.

    Saw a mama black bear and her cub up in the mountains once. They were a little ways off in the distance, and baby bear was next to mama, so I wasn't worried at all. Frankly, the piles of cougar shit that were on the trail were far more disturbing, because that big kitteh could have been hiding just about anywhere, and I wouldn't have seen him until it was too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Bears don't eat people. They just kill you and rip you up a bit. I live right where we get bear warnings. We can't put any food out or even have bird seed in bird feeders because it attracts bears.

    I know that..jeze don't forget I am a brilliant .. man..They just eat the certain parts that get in the way of thier, mouths.

    I also know we don't stand a chance against most of the top food chain animals this world has roaming around.

    I don't think I would fare well solo cave man against many of them..I also love that debate..."well if he didn't have a gun ..it's not a fair fight"...correct, we learned 100K years ago that it wouldn't be fair to kick a 5 year old male lion in the balls and stand and wait for him to let you do it again.

    For the comment above the... Elephants are needing culling out, you don't just go shoot one..because your some rich son... there a licences to be bought and a long waiting list designed by -PETA like people- who choose wich Big Game gets killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarathecarrot View Post
    I know that..jeze don't forget I am a brilliant .. man..They just eat the certain parts that get in the way of thier, mouths.

    I also know we don't stand a chance against most of the top food chain animals this world has roaming around.

    I don't think I would fare well solo cave man against many of them..I also love that debate..."well if he didn't have a gun ..it's not a fair fight"...correct, we learned 100K years ago that it wouldn't be fair to kick a 5 year old male lion in the balls and stand and wait for him to let you do it again.

    For the comment above the... Elephants are needing culling out, you don't just go shoot one..because your some rich son... there a licences to be bought and a long waiting list designed by -PETA like people- who choose wich Big Game gets killed.
    The people who preach to us about animals and nature know nothing about what they are saying. You hear these people who have never been hunting in their lives say the hunter has the advantage because he has the gun. Ok. There's that herd of elk over there and just go walk over and shoot one. They will sense you coming in and go up the side of that mountain like nothing. You will never keep up. Us humans are clumbsy and slow. A deer can go up the side of a mountain and make it look effortless. You have to get into shooting range first and then you have to get the proper shot. It's not easy. Most people that go out to shoot some game usually come back home with nothing. If you don't know how to properly locate and stalk game, good luck on killing anything.

    Hunting animals is a lot like hunting pussy Friday or Saturday night. Most dudes who go out usually get nothing for their effort.
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    One more for the debate why are these bitches posing naked for PETA with all that nasty skin all over thier meat filled bodies..they look like fucking animals.

    Cept for this girl...Roselyn Sanchez....grrrr you are like so much meat.


    Yeah baby I get your point, Meat is Murder...cause your body kills me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I love all these Peta people with leather shoes, leather belts, and leather designer hand bags.
    There's a difference between leather and fur. As long as people eat beef, then you might as well use the skin too. The animals killed for fur are generally not edible, so it's a wasteful practice, and it's not as though anybody is wearing fur because it's the only way they can stay warm in the winter.

    The Native Americans took the proper approach with the buffalo. Show a little respect for the animal, kill it when you need to, and use every part of it that you can (hides for clothing and teepees, bones for tools, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    There's a difference between leather and fur. As long as people eat beef, then you might as well use the skin too. The animals killed for fur are generally not edible, so it's a wasteful practice, and it's not as though anybody is wearing fur because it's the only way they can stay warm in the winter.

    The Native Americans took the proper approach with the buffalo. Show a little respect for the animal, kill it when you need to, and use every part of it that you can (hides for clothing and teepees, bones for tools, etc.)
    You also need to kill the animal quickly. If you aren't sure you can't make the shot you don't take it. Also, they have some wonderful bullets that if placed right really do the job. We had a discussion about this very topic. More animals have been wounded with a 7mm Magnum and a high powered scope than a lower powered rifle with lower powered optics. People get too overconfident in the equipment.

    Even with a gun it's still stalking an animal and positioning for a shot. The indians had it harder because their weapons had less range and power but it's the same general idea. Then you get through all that and get to where you are ready to take the shot and you get buck fever. It's the desperation to get the shot off that takes over and you mess up there.

    Hunting is a real mental game and if you are a person with no patience it's not for you. It's being in the woods for days, usually in freezing awful weather, going up steep mountain sides with heavy equipment and it's all about being in the moment. If you think golfing is a good escape hunting beats that by several fold.

    It's kind of like fishing. Most people that say they are hunting mostly hang in camp and drink booze and tell lies. You have the few die hards in camp that take it seriousely. The problem is you have a bunch of drunks back at camp that are suppossed to have the food cooked when you get back after dark and they usually are three sheets to the wind and nothing has been done and there is no booze left for you because they drank it all. What's funny is my dad told me most the lodges when he was a kid also had gambling dens and whore houses. Sure the husband told the wife he would be hunting over the weekend but he never specified what he would be hunting. With less people doing it now, the whore houses and gambling are gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    You also need to kill the animal quickly. If you aren't sure you can't make the shot you don't take it. Also, they have some wonderful bullets that if placed right really do the job. We had a discussion about this very topic. More animals have been wounded with a 7mm Magnum and a high powered scope than a lower powered rifle with lower powered optics. People get too overconfident in the equipment.

    Even with a gun it's still stalking an animal and positioning for a shot. The indians had it harder because their weapons had less range and power but it's the same general idea. Then you get through all that and get to where you are ready to take the shot and you get buck fever. It's the desperation to get the shot off that takes over and you mess up there.

    Hunting is a real mental game and if you are a person with no patience it's not for you. It's being in the woods for days, usually in freezing awful weather, going up steep mountain sides with heavy equipment and it's all about being in the moment. If you think golfing is a good escape hunting beats that by several fold.

    It's kind of like fishing. Most people that say they are hunting mostly hang in camp and drink booze and tell lies. You have the few die hards in camp that take it seriousely. The problem is you have a bunch of drunks back at camp that are suppossed to the food cooked when you get back after dark and they usually are three sheets to the wind and nothing has been done and there is no booze left for you because they drank it all. What's funny is my dad told me most the lodges when he was a kid also had gambling dens and whore houses. Sure the husband told the wife he would be hunting over the weekend but he never specified what he would be hunting. With less people doing it now, the whore houses and gambling are gone.
    That's y I shoot a Mark V Wetherby in 270 WBY mag
    Using 150 grn Nosler Pt's
    Every animal I have harvested with that firearm died quickly and all
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    I truly respect the animals I hunt and do everything possible
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    Practice, learn all I can about ballistics etc etc

    I am so comfortable with the above firearm that I would face a charging lion
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    It's ok though. You always can make more elephants. If you can get it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthcoming View Post
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    I think her mom got boinked by the pool boy or butler. No way could Donald's loins produce someone as fine as her.

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    What's ironic is you can kill people in Africa by the thousands and nobody cares that much actually. Some rich kid kills an elephant and people go ape shit.

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