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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    I think it's called testimony...
    I think it's called HEARSAY and won't be admissible.
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • sadaist
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jul 2004
      • 11625

      Originally posted by Nickdfresh

      HLN’s Jane Velez-Mitchell invited experts, including a forensic consultant, to weigh in Thursday on what ‘intermediate range’ means and found their answers varied greatly from three inches, to 12 inches, to 18 inches, to three feet.
      Dang. Guess my numbers were close, right on the mark, or a little off.....lol. Just something for the lawyers to argue about for days & make more money. I bet after this trial we will know exactly the definition of Intermediate Range.
      “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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      • sadaist
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jul 2004
        • 11625

        Anyone know the closeness you have to fire for gunshot burns? 3 feet seems a bit far. But what do I know? I've seen an AR-15 shot that fired out what looked like a cannonball sized fireball. That would burn you from 10 feet easy. I know we aren't talking about an AR-15 here, but 3 feet? I've never fired a handgun at night so don't know the fire that can come out.
        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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        • BigBadBrian
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 10620

          Originally posted by sadaist
          = 2" to 18". He had a gun powder burn. Zimmerman will walk & riots will ensue.
          Agreed.

          I saw the following on another Left-wing news site, in the comments column under the story:


          The black community won't protest the absence of good fathers in the black family.

          The black community will not protest black on black crime.

          The black community will not protest black dropout rates in schools.

          The black community will not try to improve their own neighborhood.

          BUT…

          The black community will riot and burn when one of their own thugs commits a crime and gets his ass kicked by someone other than another black.

          The black community will burn down their own stores and neighborhoods when they do protest.
          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49136

            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
            I think it's called HEARSAY and won't be admissible.
            LOL You're a lawyer now?

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49136

              Originally posted by sadaist
              Dang. Guess my numbers were close, right on the mark, or a little off.....lol. Just something for the lawyers to argue about for days & make more money. I bet after this trial we will know exactly the definition of Intermediate Range.
              No, they weren't really that close actually...

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49136

                Originally posted by sadaist
                Anyone know the closeness you have to fire for gunshot burns? 3 feet seems a bit far. But what do I know? I've seen an AR-15 shot that fired out what looked like a cannonball sized fireball. That would burn you from 10 feet easy. I know we aren't talking about an AR-15 here, but 3 feet? I've never fired a handgun at night so don't know the fire that can come out.
                Was the flash suppressor broken? Yeah, it does flash a bit and I haven't fired a pistol/revolver at night either. But I imagine there is a variance there based on caliber and pistol type. But unlike the AR-15/M-16 series (which have different types of flash suppressors depending on vintage and type and fire a relatively "small caliber" slug but have a lot of powder to propel it to a very high velocity), pistols do not have a suppressor and may in fact spray more at close range, but may not have as much of a charge...

                I dunno much about forensics though...
                Last edited by Nickdfresh; 05-20-2012, 12:28 PM.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49136

                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  Agreed.

                  I saw the following on another Left-wing news site, in the comments column under the story:


                  The black community won't protest the absence of good fathers in the black family.

                  The black community will not protest black on black crime.

                  The black community will not protest black dropout rates in schools.

                  The black community will not try to improve their own neighborhood.

                  BUT…

                  The black community will riot and burn when one of their own thugs commits a crime and gets his ass kicked by someone other than another black.

                  The black community will burn down their own stores and neighborhoods when they do protest.
                  Well Brian, being our obvious racial inferiors, of course none of those lazy blacks don't really give a shit about anything but their freedom to rob and pillage white gated-communities free of dedicated, upstanding neighborhood watch personnel exercising good judgement protecting their neighborhoods from all the scary black peoplez wearin' hoodies... (irony)

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10620

                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    Well Brian, being our obvious racial inferiors, of course none of those lazy blacks don't really give a shit about anything but their freedom to rob and pillage white gated-communities free of dedicated, upstanding neighborhood watch personnel exercising good judgement protecting their neighborhoods from all the scary black peoplez wearin' hoodies... (irony)
                    Nick, keep dodging those harsh realities. What I posted wasn't meant to piss anybody off or be controversial. They are modern day American Tragedies...and the truth.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • PETE'S BROTHER
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 12678

                      Originally posted by jhale667
                      And shithead's perceived state of mind will be of interest in the case. From all accounts, he was NOT acting like some on flabbergasted as in "oh shit, I just shot someone", quite the opposite. He was in "Call the cops so I can go into C.Y.A." mode.
                      or shock, just sayin'...
                      Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35160

                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        Nick, keep dodging those harsh realities. What I posted wasn't meant to piss anybody off or be controversial. They are modern day American Tragedies...and the truth.

                        Now people travel and mix more it is completely inevitable that all humans will become mixed race, get to used to it.

                        White births in the United States are no longer in the majority, according to new data from the US Census Bureau, as a rising Hispanic population contributes to an historic demographic shift.


                        Non-white births outnumber white births for the first time in US

                        White births in the United States are no longer in the majority, according to new data from the US Census Bureau, as a rising Hispanic population contributes to an historic demographic shift.



                        Minority races – Hispanics, blacks and Asians and other mixed races – accounted for 50.4 per cent of births over the year to July, accounting for a majority for the first time in US history.
                        The demographic milestone had been expected for years in a country founded by European whites and that early on relied heavily on the work of enslaved African populations, then went through a civil war and civil rights battle over issues of race.

                        In recent years, the growth of Hispanic populations immigrating from Latin America has hastened a decline in the majority status of white births, the census data suggested.
                        "This is an important landmark," said Roderick Harrison, a former chief of racial statistics at the Census Bureau who is now a sociologist at Howard University. "This generation is growing up much more accustomed to diversity than its elders."

                        As a whole, the nation's minority population continues to rise, following a higher-than-expected Hispanic count in the 2010 census. Minorities increased 1.9 per cent to 114.1 million, or 36.6 per cent of the total U.S. population, lifted by prior waves of immigration that brought in young families and boosted the number of Hispanic women in their prime childbearing years.


                        But a recent slowdown in the growth of the Hispanic and Asian populations is shifting notions on when the tipping point in U.S. diversity will come – the time when non-Hispanic whites become a minority. After 2010 census results suggested a crossover as early as 2040, demographers now believe the pivotal moment may be pushed back several years when new projections are released in December.
                        The annual growth rates for Hispanics and Asians fell sharply last year to just over 2 per cent, roughly half the rates in 2000 and the lowest in more than a decade. The black growth rate stayed flat at 1 per cent.

                        Racial and ethnic minorities make up more than half the children born in the US, capping decades of heady immigration growth that is now slowing.
                        New 2011 census estimates highlight sweeping changes in the nation's racial make-up and the prolonged impact of a weak economy, which is now resulting in fewer Hispanics entering the U.S.

                        The report comes as the Supreme Court prepares to rule on the legality of Arizona's strict immigration law, with many states weighing similar get-tough measures.
                        "We remain in a dangerous period where those appealing to anti-immigration elements are fuelling a divisiveness and hostility that might take decades to overcome," Harrison said.

                        As a whole, the nation's minority population continues to rise, following a higher-than-expected Hispanic count in the 2010 census. Minorities increased 1.9 per cent to 114.1 million, or 36.6 per cent of the total U.S. population, lifted by prior waves of immigration that brought in young families and boosted the number of Hispanic women in their prime childbearing years.

                        But a recent slowdown in the growth of the Hispanic and Asian populations is shifting notions on when the tipping point in U.S. diversity will come – the time when non-Hispanic whites become a minority. After 2010 census results suggested a crossover as early as 2040, demographers now believe the pivotal moment may be pushed back several years when new projections are released in December.
                        The annual growth rates for Hispanics and Asians fell sharply last year to just over 2 per cent, roughly half the rates in 2000 and the lowest in more than a decade. The black growth rate stayed flat at 1 per cent.

                        Pointing to a longer-term decline in immigration, demographers believe the Hispanic population boom may have peaked.
                        "The Latino population is very young, which means they will continue to have a lot of births relative to the general population," said Mark Mather, associate vice president of the Population Reference Bureau. "But we're seeing a slowdown that is likely the result of multiple factors: declining Latina birth rates combined with lower immigration levels. If both of these trends continue, they will lead to big changes down the road."
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                        The immigrants staying put in the U.S. for now include Narcisa Marcelino, 34, a single mother who lives with her two daughters, ages 10 and 5, in Martinsburg, West Virginia. After crossing into the U.S. from Mexico in 2000, she followed her brother to the eastern part of the state just outside the Baltimore-Washington region. The Martinsburg area is known for hiring hundreds of migrants annually to work in fruit orchards. Its Hispanic growth climbed from 14 per cent to 18 per cent between 2000 and 2005 before shrinking last year to 3.3 per cent, still above the national average.

                        Marcelino says she sells food from her home to make ends meet for her family and continues to hope that one day she will get a hearing with immigration officials to stay legally in the U.S. She aspires to open a restaurant and is learning English at a community college so she can help other Spanish-language speakers.
                        If she is eventually deported, "it wouldn't be that tragic," Marcelino said. "But because the children have been born here, this is their country. And there are more opportunities for them here."

                        Of the 30 large metropolitan areas showing the fastest Hispanic growth in the previous decade, all showed slower growth in 2011 than in the peak Hispanic growth years of 2005-2006, when the construction boom attracted new migrants to low-wage work. They include Lakeland, Florida; Charlotte, North Carolina; Atlanta; Provo, Utah; Las Vegas; and Phoenix. All but two – Fort Myers, Florida, and Dallas-Fort Worth – also grew more slowly last year than in 2010, hurt by the jobs slump.
                        Pointing to a longer-term decline in immigration, demographers believe the Hispanic population boom may have peaked.
                        "The Latino population is very young, which means they will continue to have a lot of births relative to the general population," said Mark Mather, associate vice president of the Population Reference Bureau. "But we're seeing a slowdown that is likely the result of multiple factors: declining Latina birth rates combined with lower immigration levels. If both of these trends continue, they will lead to big changes down the road."

                        William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution who analysed the census data, noted that government debates over immigration enforcement may now be less pressing, given slowing growth. "The current congressional and Supreme Court interest in reducing immigration – and the concerns especially about low-skilled and undocumented Hispanic immigration – represent issues that could well be behind us," he said.

                        Minorities made up roughly 2.02 million, or 50.4 per cent of U.S. births in the 12-month period ending July 2011. That compares with 37 per cent in 1990.
                        In all, 348 of the nation's 3,143 counties, or 1 in 9, have minority populations across all age groups that total more than 50 per cent. In a sign of future U.S. race and ethnic change, the number of counties reaching the tipping point increases to more than 690, or nearly 1 in 4, when looking only at the under age 5 population.
                        The counties in transition include Maricopa (Phoenix), Arizona; King (Seattle), Washington; Travis (Austin), Texas; and Palm Beach, Florida, where recent Hispanic births are driving the increased diversity among children. Also high on the list are suburban counties such as Fairfax, Virginia, just outside the nation's capital, and Westchester, New York, near New York City, where more open spaces are a draw for young families who are increasingly minority.

                        According to the latest data, the percentage growth of Hispanics slowed from 4.2 per cent in 2001 to 2.5 per cent last year. Their population growth would have been even lower if it weren't for their relatively high fertility rates – seven births for every death. The median age of U.S. Hispanics is 27.6 years.

                        Births actually have been declining for both whites and minorities as many women postponed having children during the economic slump. But the drop since 2008 has been larger for whites, who have a median age of 42. The number of white births fell by 11.4 per cent, compared with 3.2 per cent for minorities, according to Kenneth Johnson, a sociologist at the University of New Hampshire.

                        Asian population increases also slowed, from 4.5 per cent in 2001 to about 2.2 per cent. Hispanics and Asians still are the two fastest-growing minority groups, making up about 16.7 per cent and 4.8 per cent of the U.S. population, respectively.

                        Blacks, who comprise about 12.3 per cent of the population, have increased at a rate of about 1 per cent each year. Whites have increased very little in recent years.

                        Other findings:
                        -The migration of black Americans back to the South is slowing. New destinations in the South, including Atlanta, Charlotte, North Carolina, Raleigh, North Carolina, and Orlando, Florida, saw sharp drop-offs in black population growth as the prolonged housing bust kept African-Americans locked in place in traditional big cities. Metro areas including New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco had reduced declines or gains.
                        -Nine U.S. counties in five states saw their minority populations across all age groups surpass 50 per cent last year. They were Sutter and Yolo in California; Quitman in Georgia; Cumberland in New Jersey; Colfax in New Mexico; and Lynn, Mitchell, Schleicher and Swisher in Texas.
                        -Maverick County, Texas, had the largest share of minorities at 96.8 per cent, followed by Webb County, Texas, and Wade Hampton, Alaska, both at 96 per cent.
                        -Four states – Hawaii, California, New Mexico and Texas – as well as the District of Columbia have minority populations that exceed 50 per cent.

                        The census estimates used local records of births and deaths, tax records of people moving within the U.S., and census statistics on immigrants. The figures for "white" refer to those whites who are not of Hispanic ethnicity.

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                        • jhale667
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 20929

                          Aw, is Brie scared cuz him's officially a downtrodden minority now?
                          Originally posted by conmee
                          If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                          That is all.

                          Icon.
                          Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                          I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                          Originally posted by Isaac R.
                          Then it's really true??:eek:

                          The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                          OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                          Originally posted by eddie78
                          I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                          • Angel
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7481

                            I just love the line "a country founded by European whites", totally negating the existence of North American Aboriginals.

                            Canada and the US think history didn't start until the white man got here.
                            "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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                            • jhale667
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 20929

                              Hey, look at the bright side - if Brie goes outside in a hoodie now - I'm calling it "supsicous" and blasting him at point blank range...and statistics say I'll walk! "He was a big fat balding white dude in a hoodie, officer - I felt....uh...."threatened" -y'know, not psychially- that he was loweing my property values - WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO???"
                              Originally posted by conmee
                              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                              That is all.

                              Icon.
                              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                              Originally posted by Isaac R.
                              Then it's really true??:eek:

                              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                              Originally posted by eddie78
                              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                              • ThrillsNSpills
                                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 6626

                                Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                                What these witnesses believe or feel likely won't be admissible in court.

                                I'm going to just blame your ignorance on the cocktail you take for neuropathy.

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