Stand Your Ground Doesn't Equal Neighborhood (Death Squad) Watch

[ELVIS]

The minute the dispatcher told racist vigilante douche Zimmerman to NOT follow Trayvon Martin, and he did so anyway, his actions became premeditated.

I don't see how you can make that stretch...

[ELVIS]

[FORD]

I don't see how you can make that stretch...

[Nickdfresh]

The case against Zimmerman is building...

Trayvon Martin case audio: Screams were not George Zimmerman's, 2 experts say
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The 911 call mentioned in this story can be heard approximately six minutes into this clip.

By msnbc.com staff

The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, the Orlando Sentinel reported Saturday.

Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told the Sentinel that he used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman.

Zimmerman told police that he screamed for help during his confrontation with Martin, 17. He claims the shooting was self-defense.

The 911 call, reposted in this YouTube clip, came on the night of Feb. 26 from a woman who reported someone crying out for help in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.

In the recording of her phone call, panicked cries and a gunshot are heard.

The Sentinel said it contacted Owen, who it described as a court-qualified expert witness and former chief engineer for the New York Public Library's Rodgers and Hammerstein Archives of Recorded Sound. He told the newspaper he used software called Easy Voice Biometrics to compare Zimmerman's voice to the 911 call screams.

Owen told the newspaper that the software compared the screams to Zimmerman's voice and returned a 48 percent match. He said he would expect a match of higher than 90 percent, considering the quality of the audio.

"As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen told the Sentinel.

But he also said he could not confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice.

The Sentinel said that Ed Primeau, a Michigan-based audio engineer and forensics expert, used audio enhancement and human analysis and came to the same conclusion.
Thousands of Trayvon supporters march to police station

"I believe that's Trayvon Martin in the background, without a doubt," Primeau told the newspaper. "That's a young man screaming."

On Feb. 26, Zimmerman, a white Hispanic, had called 911 to report a "suspicious" person and followed Martin against the dispatcher's advice. Martin and Zimmerman grappled, and Martin was shot in the chest.

Zimmerman told police that he was walking back to his vehicle when Martin attacked him and slammed his head against the ground and that he shot in self defense. Police declined to arrest Zimmerman citing Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, which gives wide latitude to use deadly force when a threat is perceived.

The lack of an arrest in the case has brought protests across the country. In Sanford on Saturday, thousands of protesters marched to the police station.

MSNBC.com

[Nickdfresh]

Because you"re so sympathetic towards blacks you feel you need to change their diapers and give them a bottle...

Or not summarily execute them while walking down the street...

Weren't those your nurse duties?

[Nickdfresh]

Gee Elbow, how would anyone think a complete asshole like is racist when you use terms like "negro" and "wetback.?"

..And was banned for wantonly using the N-word...

[binnie]

I'm just surprised he knows what 'disingenuously' means.

[chefcraig]

You go to prison in Florida for killing bunnies but you can kill a human being and that's ok.

So what's altogether wrong with that? A bunny never cut me off in traffic, used a cell phone loudly in a movie theater right next to my ear or acted inappropriately or just plain despicably towards me or my family in a public place. Obviously, bunnies are highly dignified beings, and worthy of having their lives preserved and respected. I can't say the same for a good portion of the "humanity" I've dealt with in this lifetime.

[Angel]

Fuck, is everybody forgetting the one fact that cannot be denied? A CHILD IS DEAD!!! That's the undeniable truth and what needs to be remembered.

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[FORD]

So what's altogether wrong with that? A bunny never cut me off in traffic, used a cell phone loudly in a movie theater right next to my ear or acted inappropriately or just plain despicably towards me or my family in a public place. Obviously, bunnies are highly dignified beings, and worthy of having their lives preserved and respected. I can't say the same for a good portion of the "humanity" I've dealt with in this lifetime.

Bunnies are dignified beings??

I raised rabbits as a kid, and I know damn well that ain't the truth.

(Of course I'd still trust a rabbit over a teabagger, a Randtard, or any member of the BCE)

[sadaist]

Bunnies are dignified beings??

I raised rabbits as a kid, and I know damn well that ain't the truth.

So cute & fuzzy. So fucking disgustingly dirty though. Man, I had a rabbit once and all I did was clean that fuckers pen non-stop. Parents, if your kids ask for a bunny don't do it. Unless you have a good recipe for when you get tired of cleaning up after it.

[sadaist]

You don't care that a young man has died?

It's always a shame. But...is it a shame because he was an innocent young man? or is it a shame that he went down a bad path & became a thug that led to his death? I just don't think Trayvon was farting out a Skittles rainbow and hop scotching down the street with a bluebird on his shoulder like the media is making it out to be. Maybe. But it's insane how the general public is ready to skin this Zimmerman guy alive without knowing what really happened.

If it turns out that it truly did happen the way the media is portraying it, then I'd be the 1st to call for Zimmermans head. I just think sanity should take the lead here while we find out what really happened.

Reminds of an old western tombstone....


He was right...
we was wrong...
but we strung him up....
and now he's gone.

[FORD]

So cute & fuzzy. So fucking disgustingly dirty though. Man, I had a rabbit once and all I did was clean that fuckers pen non-stop. Parents, if your kids ask for a bunny don't do it. Unless you have a good recipe for when you get tired of cleaning up after it.

Exactly. One corner of the cage had the food and water, and the other corner had the er... "recycled" food and water. And in between eating and shitting, all they do is fuck. Yeah, it might sound like an ideal life in some respects, but not all within the same confined space, and certainly not with one's own blood relatives. I didn't need to wait until junior high for sex education... got to see bunny porn by the age of 7.

[knuckleboner]

It's always a shame. But...is it a shame because he was an innocent young man? or is it a shame that he went down a bad path & became a thug that led to his death? I just don't think Trayvon was farting out a Skittles rainbow and hop scotching down the street with a bluebird on his shoulder like the media is making it out to be. Maybe. But it's insane how the general public is ready to skin this Zimmerman guy alive without knowing what really happened.

If it turns out that it truly did happen the way the media is portraying it, then I'd be the 1st to call for Zimmermans head. I just think sanity should take the lead here while we find out what really happened.

Reminds of an old western tombstone....


He was right...
we was wrong...
but we strung him up....
and now he's gone.

dude, regardless of whether or not the kid was a thug, the fact (and this is a FACT) is that he was doing nothing wrong until zimmerman got involved. now, maybe the kid then began assaulting zimmerman. maybe zimmerman did act in self defense. but without zimmerman ignoring the dispatcher's statement not to get involved, trayvon would've lived through that night.

and by the way...if stand your ground law works for zimmerman, then it should work for trayvon, too. man in a car following you at night could make anybody reasonably afraid, thereby authorizing force, according to the florida law...

[Dr. Love]

MSNBC is as bad if not worse than FOX when shit likes this happens.

I used to think FOX was bad about engaging in demagogic behavior but anytime anything that touches on interracial relationships, gay/lesbian issues, labor rights, etc they (both FOX and MSNBC) just go absolutely apeshit over it. I can sit and listen to a blatantly biased newscast and sift fact from editorial but the way Ed Schultz/Lawrence O'Donnel/Rachel Maddow go off sometimes is ridiculous. They are as bad as Coulter/Hannity/O'Reilly.

It's not news, it's propaganda. Their behavior discredits any factual information they have to present.

I've stopped reading about this case and completely disengaged because it stopped being about a kid that got shot a long, long time ago.

Now it's just another battlefield for the wackos on the left and the right. Watching what is going on, it's obvious that people don't care as much about Zimmerman or Martin as much as they care about advancing their own agendas.

THAT is what people should be ashamed about enabling and engaging in.