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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Texas has it going on..........

    pRick Perry was berating Wendy for belittling life while he signed the death sentence of a woman......#500 for your State, right Doc?
    we're on a roll!

    Actually it was my state senator that was filibustering the anti-abortion bill a couple of days ago. We (my wife and I) voted for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    too fucking lazy to google it, too!

    It could be argued that a prison sentence could be a death sentence!

    Either way......the guy PUT himself in that situation......after being told not to! He got what he deserved.

    Not the kid's fault that he thought he was Johnny law or was compensating for a small dick.

    He killed a kid that shouldn't of been killed.......getting his ass kicked just proves he was unable to handle that situation, period!
    Basically the kid got killed because he was black and therefore - according to Zimmerklansman - didn't "belong" in a gated community.

    Even though his fucking father LIVED there. And he was armed with a deadly bag of Skittles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Bingo. Let's all feel sorry for the 30 year old that "had" to shoot... because he was getting his ass kicked... by the 17 year old... he shouldn't have been fucking with in the first place!
    I don't feel sorry for him, I'm just saying in Texas we all have guns so it wouldn't have come down to a fist fight... we would have had a neighborhood shoot out old-western style

    yeehaw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    we're on a roll!

    Actually it was my state senator that was filibustering the anti-abortion bill a couple of days ago. We (my wife and I) voted for her.
    I would expect no less from you, Doc
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    My wife voted for her cause she's a woman and I voted for her cause I wanted to get some.

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    And because of politics and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    we're on a roll!

    Actually it was my state senator that was filibustering the anti-abortion bill a couple of days ago. We (my wife and I) voted for her.
    She's getting a lot of national media attention. At least from the media I listen to..... probably not so much from the FAUX Noize types. And I'm sure Mush Limpdick probably called her a "slut" or something (as is his usual practice)

    Hope she runs against pRick Perry. Y'all haven't had a governor with a three digit IQ since Ann Richards!

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    Just to be clear my wife didn't vote for Wendy Davis because my wife is a woman (even though she is) but because Wendy is a woman. Didn't want any confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Bingo. Let's all feel sorry for the 30 year old that "had" to shoot... because he was getting his ass kicked... by the 17 year old... he shouldn't have been fucking with in the first place!
    The pussy didn't even have the balls to pull that hog leg way before it escalated into fist-a-cuffs!

    Says a lot about Zimmerman!

    Oh, and I need to stop watching westerns

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    Well I guess really she voted for her because they are both women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    My wife voted for her cause she's a woman and I voted for her cause I wanted to get some.
    'nuff said......totally understandable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    Just to be clear my wife didn't vote for Wendy Davis because my wife is a woman (even though she is) but because Wendy is a woman. Didn't want any confusion.
    Fuck....that just confused me

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    Really though she only filibustered for 14 hours or something like that which isn't that impressive given how long women go on and on about the most boring shit on a daily basis, am I right?

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    I agree only because your sig is so outstanding

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    #SCOTUS says #racism is over! Can't decide if I wanna celebrate by watching the #TrayvonMartin trial or buying the new #PaulaDeen cookbook!— Eric Wolfson (@ericwolfson) June 25, 2013
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    This one's for Dr. Don't Tell Me What Love Can Do...

    #FACT: #RickPerry is so pro-life, he's executed more people in #Texas than #GeorgeWBush—or any other governor EVER. pic.twitter.com/4Fhrln2gcU— Eric Wolfson (@ericwolfson) June 28, 2013

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    hashtags are so gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    hashtags are so gay
    I knew that if we were on the same messageboard long enough, we would finally agree on something!
    'Hashtags' are just slang for 'male apron'....of which we know there's no such thing!

    I still think you're a fucking prick, though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    hashtags are so gay
    He said, probably never having one of his posts hit 1000+ views in part because of said hashtag. Y U no like subject showing up in internet searches?


    I scoff at "male apron", but agree he's a prick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    I scoff at "male apron", but agree he's a prick...
    Fair enough! As long as you recognize it!

    As far as the folks who think "Dr. Love can't be a prick. His sig is cool".

    Yeah? Well, NO SHIT, DUMBASS!!

    You aren't reading his posts though, and for that, you deserve to be beaten and left bleeding in the moonlight! Goddamn imbeciles!!

    The people that are slightly amused by his sigs easily owned an ant farm and thought that was cool and amusing too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    THIS. Bottom line, IMO. He fucked up, no ifs ands or buts about that - and an innocent KID is dead.

    Fucking up isn't a crime...

    And the thug fucked up by jumping Zimmerman which resulted in getting his ass shot...

    They probably both thought they were badasses...oh well...


    Because of a clearly biased, unfounded ASSumption Zimmerman made, and then decided - on his own - to go all Billy Badass about instead of waiting for the authorities he knew were on the way.

    And Treyvon went all gangsta on Zimmerman...

    There is no way anyone can possibly say they're equally at fault. Zimmerman was supposed to be the adult in this scenario.

    The adult ??

    So, now you're suggesting Zimmerman knew he was dealing with a 17 year old "child" ??

    This guy was a tough south Miami teenage thug, not some little kid skippng around and eating skittles...

    get a life...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Basically the kid got killed because he was black

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    My wife voted for her cause she's a woman and I voted for her cause I wanted to get some.
    Pic's please...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Y U no like subject showing up in internet searches?
    Because he cherishes his freedom and privacy ??

    Just a hunch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis
    Fucking up isn't a crime...

    And the thug fucked up by jumping Zimmerman which resulted in getting his ass shot...

    They probably both thought they were badasses...oh well...
    You mean he went "gansta" on some creepy cop-wannabe fuck that was too fat and stupid to get into the academy? Zimmerman was told to cease and desist because the police were on their way.

    Maybe you should go around and get your ass kicked so you have an excuse to shoot black people?

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    Why you putting that on me, asshole ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Why you putting that on me, asshole ??


    You can easily see where most of the debate is around here.

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    All I'm referring to is the actual facts of the case as they've been submitted so far...

    And so far, if I'm on that jury, there is reasonable doubt....

    That's it....
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    Seems like the rioters like jfail and FORD will never accept that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
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    #FACT: #RickPerry is so pro-life, he's executed more people in #Texas than #GeorgeWBush—or any other governor EVER. pic.twitter.com/4Fhrln2gcU— Eric Wolfson (@ericwolfson) June 28, 2013
    Ok , that seals it. I definitely wont be moving to Texas, because nothing makes me angrier than seeing bad guys die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Fucking up isn't a crime...

    And the thug fucked up by jumping Zimmerman which resulted in getting his ass shot...

    They probably both thought they were badasses...oh well...


    And Treyvon went all gangsta on Zimmerman...

    The adult ??

    So, now you're suggesting Zimmerman knew he was dealing with a 17 year old "child" ??

    This guy was a tough south Miami teenage thug, not some little kid skippng around and eating skittles...
    get a life...

    You first, you stereotype-spewing bigot bitch. Pathetic. Went "gansta" - yeah, you'd know because you were there... Your irrational fear of black people is palpable. Paranoid fucktard. "Thug"...yeah, right. You're a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Seems like the rioters like jfail and FORD will never accept that...
    What I will never accept is that Zimmerklansman has ANY valid claim of "self-defense".

    He created the situation. He profiled Martin (based on racist suppositions), and continued to stalk him, after being specifically told by the 911 dispatchers to NOT do so. He has no grounds for self-defense after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    What I will never accept is that Zimmerklansman has ANY valid claim of "self-defense".

    He created the situation. He profiled Martin (based on racist suppositions), and continued to stalk him, after being specifically told by the 911 dispatchers to NOT do so. He has no grounds for self-defense after that.
    "Racist suppositions" ...y'know, like calling Martin a "thug" and saying he "went gangsta" on Zimmerman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    What I will never accept is that Zimmerklansman has ANY valid claim of "self-defense".

    He created the situation. He profiled Martin (based on racist suppositions), and continued to stalk him, after being specifically told by the 911 dispatchers to NOT do so. He has no grounds for self-defense after that.
    I agree with this 100%

    Having said that....I'm afraid he's going to walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    I agree with this 100%

    Having said that....I'm afraid he's going to walk.


    I think there's a pretty good chance he will too unfortunately.

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    Innocent until proven guilty, except in some circles at the Roth army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    Innocent until proven guilty, except in some circles at the Roth army.
    Everybody gets to play judge and jury. Not like he lives or dies by some poll.

    If I judged him simply by his OWN story, and that of the 911 calls he made, I'd find him guilty of manslaughter.


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    The Zimmerman Trial
    By CHARLES M. BLOW
    Published: June 28, 2013

    This first week of testimony in the George Zimmerman trial has proved to be nothing short of fascinating.
    On one level, the case is simple: if Zimmerman had not pursued — some say stalked — Trayvon Martin that dark, rainy night, Martin would still be alive.

    That’s the logical argument. The legal one is more complex. The case, it seems to me, spins on some crucial questions, some of which we may never completely know the answers to.

    What was it about Martin in particular that Zimmerman found “suspicious” in the first place? So far, there has been no testimony that Martin was doing anything other than walking slowly and talking on a phone to a girl, as teenage boys are wont to do. Did Zimmerman consider every person walking thusly in the neighborhood to be suspicious? If not, what made Martin different? Was some sort of bias at play, whether an explicit one or an implicit one?

    Why did Zimmerman leave his car, armed with his gun, and follow Martin? When the dispatcher realized that Zimmerman was in pursuit and told him, “We don’t need you to do that,” did Zimmerman stop?

    Did Martin know that he was being followed, as his friend Rachel Jeantel testified, and did he feel threatened by the stranger following him?

    In fact, the threat levels are a larger, more complex issue altogether. Who felt threatened, the teenager with the candy and the soda or the man pursuing him with a gun and a live round in the chamber? The answer on the surface would seem obvious, but it’s possible that both felt some level of threat. It’s also possible that threat responses washed back and forth between them like water in a tub, neither of them knowing about the other what we know now — that Zimmerman was armed and Martin was not.

    If Martin was running away, as Zimmerman has said and Jeantel has testified, did he at some point stop fleeing, turn and approach Zimmerman?

    There has been testimony establishing that there was some sort of verbal interaction between Zimmerman and Martin before a physical one. Who struck the first blow and why? If Martin struck the first blow, as the defense contends, could that be considered an act of self-defense?

    Regardless of who struck the first blow, some testimony suggests that Martin was getting the best of Zimmerman. In that scenario, could the right to self-defense switch personage? Florida law seems to suggest it can. The law states that the use of force is not justified when a person “initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant.”

    Even assuming that Martin was winning a physical fight with Zimmerman, did Zimmerman “reasonably” believe that he was in “imminent danger of death or great bodily harm”? Zimmerman was injured, but how do you evaluate the degree of those injuries? Independent assessments may or may not deem Zimmerman’s injuries severe, but did Zimmerman, in the middle of the fight, believe them to be? Had Zimmerman “exhausted every reasonable means to escape”?

    Who was yelling for help? Keep in mind that it is possible to be both winning a fight and simultaneously yelling for help.

    During opening arguments, John Guy, a prosecutor, stated that investigators found none of Zimmerman’s blood on Martin’s hands or on the cuffs of his sweatshirt. How will the defense explain that?

    The bar may be high for the prosecution, but the logic is basic: there has been no suggestion or testimony that Trayvon Martin was doing anything wrong the night that George Zimmerman caught sight of him and grew wary of him, pursued him and came into contact with him.

    Zimmerman set that night’s events in motion and rendered them still with the ring of a gunshot. Now, as Zimmerman sits in a Florida courtroom, Martin sleeps in a Florida grave. We will never hear Martin’s side of the story, about the level of his fear or the feel of the bullet ripping through his body.

    Morally, Zimmerman is by no means without guilt. Legally, it remains to be seen whether he will be found guilty of second-degree murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    Everybody gets to play judge and jury. Not like he lives or dies by some poll.

    If I judged him simply by his OWN story, and that of the 911 calls he made, I'd find him guilty of manslaughter.


    Agree.

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