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  • kwame k
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Feb 2008
    • 11302

    #91
    I always thought we were disillusioned Taoists
    Originally posted by vandeleur
    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32798

      #92
      I thought we were just a bunch of drunken perverts.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • guwapo_rocker
        Sniper
        • Jan 2004
        • 993

        #93
        Originally posted by Nitro Express
        I thought we were just a bunch of drunken perverts.
        Show us your tits......oh wait!
        WE'RE ON A MISSION FROM ROTH.

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        • kwame k
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Feb 2008
          • 11302

          #94
          Originally posted by Nitro Express
          I thought we were just a bunch of drunken perverts.
          If you add........"Who don't give a fuck", then you're right back to being a Taoist
          Originally posted by vandeleur
          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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          • gbranton
            Veteran
            • Aug 2005
            • 1847

            #95
            Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
            Valid points, but I'm sure you'd also concur with the fact that it goes both ways......
            Absolutely. Like I said in my earlier post, I experience it almost every day. I think it should be kosher for people on BOTH sides to speak their mind, not just one point of view or nothing at all.
            "Don't want 'em to get you goat, don't show 'em where it's hid." - David Lee Roth

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58755

              #96
              It's 2012 for fucks sake. Why the fuck can't people get over their bigoted bullshit already?

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              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Headly1984
                Head Fluffer
                • Jul 2011
                • 364

                #97
                it torques me that this incident is being portrayed as a white on black violence

                - every other night in my city there are black on black shootings over drugs or territory - but oh well right ?

                this shooter guy has a jewish/white sounding last name,zimmerman- so of course even tho he is hispanic and mentor to black kids, and has black neighbors and family members that vouch he isn't racist - it is still somehow a white's are racist issue ... ugh (ever notice how well blacks and jews get along in cities?- who hates who ??)

                - the hoodie - I see white kids and black kids wearing hoodies when they are driving - that is nutz

                this hoodie cause is ridiculous - the miami heat and other groups having hoodie rally's are misguided idiots

                - I hate seeing groups of kids all wearing baggy jeans, white over sized t's and black hoodies walk down my street - if - if something bad were to happen what do you say - uh one of the kids wearing baggy pants, over sized white t shirt and black hoodie is the one who did it ? great - thug uniform ???

                ok - that will help leo's find a perp - that is why idiots dress like thugs, they are either thugs or thug wanna be's

                this stupid failure to report news properly is going to create hate violence against whites ala Rodney King

                the shooter wasn't white - the kid isn't the 12 y/o in the pictures being published and all the facts have not been released - but why ruin a good race baited story with facts - seems blacks are looking for a good reason to hate on whitey - so have hoodie rallies and vilify whites as racist - even tho the president is black, top entertainers are black - police forces are integrated, affirmative action is still alive

                oh yeah, tonight there will be more black on black violence in my city - but that is gang related and societies fault that their is a break down in minority and economically challenged families in neighborhoods that are predominantly minority or mixed race - ugh - media makes me sick

                but for now - lets just agree whites are bad, & blacks are victims who need protection from white & institutional racism

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32798

                  #98
                  Originally posted by kwame k
                  If you add........"Who don't give a fuck", then you're right back to being a Taoist
                  That helps you find your inner chi?
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32798

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Headly1984
                    it torques me that this incident is being portrayed as a white on black violence

                    - every other night in my city there are black on black shootings over drugs or territory - but oh well right ?

                    this shooter guy has a jewish/white sounding last name,zimmerman- so of course even tho he is hispanic and mentor to black kids, and has black neighbors and family members that vouch he isn't racist - it is still somehow a white's are racist issue ... ugh (ever notice how well blacks and jews get along in cities?- who hates who ??)

                    - the hoodie - I see white kids and black kids wearing hoodies when they are driving - that is nutz

                    this hoodie cause is ridiculous - the miami heat and other groups having hoodie rally's are misguided idiots

                    - I hate seeing groups of kids all wearing baggy jeans, white over sized t's and black hoodies walk down my street - if - if something bad were to happen what do you say - uh one of the kids wearing baggy pants, over sized white t shirt and black hoodie is the one who did it ? great - thug uniform ???

                    ok - that will help leo's find a perp - that is why idiots dress like thugs, they are either thugs or thug wanna be's

                    this stupid failure to report news properly is going to create hate violence against whites ala Rodney King

                    the shooter wasn't white - the kid isn't the 12 y/o in the pictures being published and all the facts have not been released - but why ruin a good race baited story with facts - seems blacks are looking for a good reason to hate on whitey - so have hoodie rallies and vilify whites as racist - even tho the president is black, top entertainers are black - police forces are integrated, affirmative action is still alive

                    oh yeah, tonight there will be more black on black violence in my city - but that is gang related and societies fault that their is a break down in minority and economically challenged families in neighborhoods that are predominantly minority or mixed race - ugh - media makes me sick

                    but for now - lets just agree whites are bad, & blacks are victims who need protection from white & institutional racism
                    They are all screaming like wieners on a BBQ trying to rewrite reality for their own political purposes. The reality is some brown dude that looks like Chaz Bono shot some black kid. There you go. That's the reality of it.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Kristy
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 16338

                      Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                      And there may not be a friendlier nation of people on this earth than Canadians, IMO....
                      Discount DiamondJimi and you may be right there.

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                      • Headly1984
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 364

                        Leonard Pitts, Jr. Tribune Media Services

                        March 25, 2012
                        I'm here to explain why George Zimmerman is white.

                        This seems necessary given the confusion and anger with which some readers responded to my use of that word last week in this space to describe the man who shot an unarmed black teenager named Trayvon Martin to death last month in Sanford, Fla. One person wrote: "Mr. Zimmerman was Hispanic not White plez do your homework before writing your column!!!!"

                        But it is they who are wrong. There are two reasons. The short one is this:

                        "Hispanic" is not a race, but an ethnicity. As the U.S. Census Bureau puts it in its 2010 Overview of Race and Hispanic Origin, "People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be any race."

                        The long reason begins with an understanding that the word in question -- race -- is a term both meaningful and yet, profoundly meaningless. It is meaningful in the sense that it provides a tool for tribalism and a means by which to organize our biases, fears, observations, social challenges and sundry cultural products. It is meaningless in the sense that, well ... it has no meaning, that there exists no definition of "black" or "white" that carries any degree of scientific precision.

                        We are taught to believe the opposite, that "black" and "white" are self-evident and immutable. But I invite you to look up Walter White, the blond, blue-eyed "Negro" who once led the NAACP, or Gregory Howard Williams, the university president who didn't even know he was black until he was 10 years old. Dig up the old Jet magazine story about a woman who gave birth to twins -- one "black," one "white." And then think again. Race is a fraud, a cruel and stupid fraud.

                        The people who came here from Europe did not automatically consider themselves "white." They identified as Irish, Hungarian, Italian, Jewish, Armenian. As David R. Roediger observes in his book, "Working Toward Whiteness: How America's Immigrants Became White," they were emphatically taught that "white" was the identity that conferred status and privilege and that it was defined by distance from, and antipathy toward, black. They were advised to avoid being friendly with blacks or else put their whiteness at risk.

                        Nor did Africans kidnapped into slavery think of themselves as "black." They were Mandinka, Fulani, Mende, Songhay, Wolof. "Black" was something imposed upon them as justification for slavery and other means of exploitation. As one historian puts it: Africans did not become slaves because they were black; they became black because they were enslaved.

                        Well into the 20th century, America recognized dozens of "races." In that America, people we now regard as white -- the Irishman, Conan O'Brien; the Armenian, Andre Agassi; the Jew, Jerry Seinfeld -- could not have taken for granted that they would be seen that way. People like this had to become white, had to earn whiteness, a feat African-Americans have found impossible to duplicate, no matter how many harsh chemicals they use on their hair and skin.

                        White, then, is not simply color, but privilege -- not necessarily in the sense of wealth, but rather in the sense of having one's personhood and individuality respected, a privilege so basic I doubt it registers with many whites as privilege at all. We're talking about the privilege of being seen, of having your worth presumed, of receiving the benefit of the doubt and some human compassion, of being treated as if you matter.

                        Consider that; then consider the fair-skinned Hispanic man, George Zimmerman, who evidently stalked and killed an unarmed kid he wrongly thought was up to no good, yet was not arrested, nor even initially investigated. He said it was self-defense. Police took him at his word and sent him on his way.

                        Folks, that's not just white. It's blinding.

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                        • adena dodds
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 393

                          I was just gonna leave that on my friends message...Why can't we all just get along? Her sister has taken over a friend of hers that I used to be friends with as well. My sister has pulled that stunt on me many times in the past. The problem we have is that they try to put it in our faces like their all cool n shit. We could care less but it's the principle of it all. Why? Who gives a shit when it's the so called friend that's the asshole anyway for dumping you as a freind to be with your sister. If assholes could fly...we'd all be getting shit on let me tell you. No exemptions, then maybe we would all have no choice but to get along....get it?
                          Originally posted by sadaist
                          The Earth is racist. Stupid thing put all the yellow people in one place, brown in another, black in another, white in another....................can't we all just get along?

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                          • adena dodds
                            Head Fluffer
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 393

                            I think we've all earned the right to be bitter after over a decade of Van Hagar.
                            Originally posted by Nitro Express
                            I had a good laugh when I read over at another VH site someone said the Roth Army was full of a bunch of bitter communists.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32798

                              Zimmerman is a white racist? I hear all this complaining over how the hispanics are taking over. Apparently they have taken over the Aryan Nations and Ku Klux Klux as well.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • adena dodds
                                Head Fluffer
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 393

                                When the Klu, klux, klan starts to wear black hoods and and gowns maybe ya better think twice. Never say never. It could actually turn into a different form of them and a different group fighting against each other....In the end it will be brother against brother...Each with a sword pointing towards one another.
                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                Zimmerman is a white racist? I hear all this complaining over how the hispanics are taking over. Apparently they have taken over the Aryan Nations and Ku Klux Klux as well.

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