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    Cool EVH Cafe Wha? Guitar rig

    Just noticed this checking my Twitter feed..will post more details as they surface...

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    Is that a loop switcher? And WTF is that Boss pedal next to the flanger, an octaver?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Is that a loop switcher? And WTF is that Boss pedal next to the flanger, an octaver?
    Probably a digital reverb. Ed's got more stomp boxes. He used to have everything in a rack and his Phase 90 and MXR Flanger with in a pull out drawer. Those were the only non rack mounted effects and them he had a Eventide Harmonizer and I believe a Digitech delay unit. But then the trend now is to go with stomp boxes as opposed to rack mounted stuff.

    Ed will run one amp head to 2 2x12 speakers for Al's guitar monitors. He will run another amp head into a load box (Palmer) and then tap the signal and run it through his effects and into an H-H power amp into one or two cabs. He then runs a dry signal to one cab. The main reason for the dry signal is incase his effects break and he loses his wet signal.

    That's his old setup that he pretty much ran from 1984 all the way through the Van Hagar shit. It was all put together by Bob Bradshaw.

    I got a couple of the old Peavey 5150 cabs. When I first got them I couldn't figure out why there was an XLR jack on the back of the cab wired to the speakers? I wonder if someone ever ran a cable from that to a mixer board and fried it? Then I learned that the old H-H power amps Ed uses use XLR cables for speaker cables and because they lock in, it eliminates the air pressure from blowing out the plug. So those cabs are a bit crazy because they are built to the way Ed wires stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Probably a digital reverb.
    I checked the Boss site... Their reverb pedals only come in grey, except for the FRV-1.

    Methinks Ed's taken a page from the George Lynch bag-of-tricks. A hint of the octaver during solos, to fatten up the sound...

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    Found a another pic.


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    Cool would love to know ALL the deets...

    Think it's a loop switcher; hard to tell on the Blackberry, but wanted to star the thread while I had the image link handy (was chillin' at a hookah bar..lol)...

    To Nitro's point, remember this is likely a waaay scaled-down version due to the size of the venue. Probably just the house side-fill for Alex. Looks like 3 cabs (per the Metor forum the grille cloth was removed - very old-school, and one imagines it was left-right wet and center dry?) and maybe Sir WARFsalot could verify, but they say he only used the single EVH stealth the entire night, not needing to switch to a backup..

    Metro also speculates it was the 100-watt EVH 5150 III, but again due to the size of the place can't help but wonder if he used the 50s instead...
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    We'll see what EVHgear.com has in store...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    We'll see what EVHgear.com has in store...
    Yes, we will...excited for NAMM, it's one of the 1st stops planned exhibit-wise...

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    Well noticed he still has precisely 3 cabinets MIC'd which means he's more than likely still running the W-D-W setup which is interesting. I do really like that harmonizer tone that really peaked during the 90s - very lush and tbh hope he's still doing something with it. Tone sounded fairly dry though
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    Quote Originally Posted by neuralfraud View Post
    Well noticed he still has precisely 3 cabinets MIC'd which means he's more than likely still running the W-D-W setup which is interesting. I do really like that harmonizer tone that really peaked during the 90s - very lush and tbh hope he's still doing something with it. Tone sounded fairly dry though
    Even with the less-than-stellar audio we've heard so far, his tone seems far LESS processed-sounding IMO than the '90s, and is far more clear-yet-still-raw sounding, even more so than '07-'08..can't wait to hear it at a show!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neuralfraud View Post
    Well noticed he still has precisely 3 cabinets MIC'd which means he's more than likely still running the W-D-W setup which is interesting. I do really like that harmonizer tone that really peaked during the 90s - very lush and tbh hope he's still doing something with it. Tone sounded fairly dry though
    I'll bet that's what Ed's going after with that MXR chorus... 'Cause isn't that what that "lushness" was basically?

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    I'm hoping for not so much, if any, compression, though the "snippet" reveals a bit and zero use of the ear drum stabbing sustainer. Talking 'bout the CD here.
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    "normal" people will use a chorus to add some "lushness" but evh decided to go to eleven and use an eventide harmonizer with (and dont quote me for accuracy) something like -9 cents detune left, dry center and +9 cents right. This would create the kind of tone a chorus would make but without the actual oscillation/whooshing noise associated with the chorus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    ... And WTF is that Boss pedal next to the flanger, an octaver?
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    I checked the Boss site... Their reverb pedals only come in grey, except for the FRV-1.

    Methinks Ed's taken a page from the George Lynch bag-of-tricks. A hint of the octaver during solos, to fatten up the sound...
    Bet it's a Boss OC-3 Super Octave, maybe for a new song?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post
    Bet it's a Boss OC-3 Super Octave, maybe for a new song?

    Maybe Nuno lent it to him when they bumped into each other in the studio.

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    That is exactly what it is.

    Here. A little easier to see after I did some magic on the image:



    And.....for curiosity's sake, you guys can see how he has his FX set.....

    Wish there was some pics of his amp head....and Wolfy's set up too...
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    Would be cool to see Ed's "secret" rack with the Lexicon PCM70s and the Roland SDE-3000s - sure only if he still uses these units.

    Here's a picture from 2008:


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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Think it's a loop switcher; hard to tell on the Blackberry, but wanted to star the thread while I had the image link handy (was chillin' at a hookah bar..lol)...

    To Nitro's point, remember this is likely a waaay scaled-down version due to the size of the venue. Probably just the house side-fill for Alex. Looks like 3 cabs (per the Metor forum the grille cloth was removed - very old-school, and one imagines it was left-right wet and center dry?) and maybe Sir WARFsalot could verify, but they say he only used the single EVH stealth the entire night, not needing to switch to a backup..

    Metro also speculates it was the 100-watt EVH 5150 III, but again due to the size of the place can't help but wonder if he used the 50s instead...
    Those amps sound decent with the master volume turned down actually. I don't use any kind of attenuator with mine or pull the tubes. It's nice you can play them at home or turn them up in a bigger place. What's funny is they do sound better turned down in a smaller place. I bet they were just standard 100 watts head because most the dirt comes from the preamp unlike an old Marshall.

    I guess you can't tell what Santa gave me for Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post
    Would be cool to see Ed's "secret" rack with the Lexicon PCM70s and the Roland SDE-3000s - sure only if he still uses these units.

    Here's a picture from 2008:

    He's still using those old H-H power amps. I guess why not if they are still working. Power amps have come a long way since those things ruled the world.

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    I've looked into that Boss Super Octave......

    for the money...I think I'll get a Pog2 instead!
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    I've tried the Boss one...cool, but seemingly not enough to make me rush to buy it at the time. Should probably revisit it...



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    No EQ?

    And thanks guys. That's pretty cool.
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    I think Edward's new sound has way too much pre-amp distortion and buzz...

    His old sound was pure power tubes and speakers both ready to blow...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I think Edward's new sound has way too much pre-amp distortion and buzz...

    His old sound was pure power tubes and speakers both ready to blow...


    That place was really small. Maybe Ed just wan't sure what he would really need.

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    It's the same on Tattoo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    It's the same on Tattoo...
    Yeah it's different for sure. I still think it sounds more like a Warren D tone.

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    His tone still sounds better to me than it did in '07...

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    I think its the new amps...more of a modern "Mesa Recto" tone than his past Plexi sound.....

    all part of the evolution.................

    I mean hell...the guys been playing since 3 days before dirt....he's gonna change over time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    His tone still sounds better to me than it did in '07...
    Yeah...I don't know what that was all about.....

    it wasn't the over-processed sound he used for....well, FUCK them anyway....

    Just not right for him...maybe he was road testing some of the prototypes....

    just lacked BALLZ!!!

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    His '07 sound was super loud with almost zero definition...

    I rembember thinking how can it sound that bad...

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    I can't say enough about how good the 50-watt version of the head sounds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    I can't say enough about how good the 50-watt version of the head sounds...
    I assume you've played both the 100 and the 50? What's different between them? Can you really tell a difference?
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    I'd like to try one...

    I have never seen one in a store...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    I can't say enough about how good the 50-watt version of the head sounds...
    667 neighbour of the beast is a maiden cover band name i once read .... laughed my arse off
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    I've never seen one in person around here either... sure would like to try one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAiN View Post
    I assume you've played both the 100 and the 50? What's different between them? Can you really tell a difference?
    Played 'em at NAMM last year. Both sound great, don't get me wrong - but this was the prototype of the 50, and ot seemed like it was voiced differently.. Cleaner and meaner! It nailed the CVH vibe (or what you'd imagine the un-effected amp tone would sound like) on the middle channel...I want it!

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    I tried the 100W and a matching 4x12 a little while ago.

    The head wasn't exactly to my taste, but I'd gladly take the cab...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I think Edward's new sound has way too much pre-amp distortion and buzz...

    His old sound was pure power tubes and speakers both ready to blow...


    Ed's new amp is three amps in one. That's why there are so many knobs on the thing. You can get a classic tone on the middle channel by turning the pre amp down and turning the power amp up. You also have to us the EQ because like the Peaveys, they actually do something and one knob tweak can turn the sound to shit. Very touchy amps but you can get close to the old tone. I can see why Ed plays around in the high gain channel a lot I find myself hitting the button and enjoying the sustain as well. I hear you on the classic tone though. What you get with the new head is close to a classic VH tone without anything blowing up. Buying new transformers for a plexi gets pretty damn expensive these days.

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    My fave is the tone off the first 2 albums. With his original Marshall head. It sounded like it was on the edge of melting down. Oversaturated, radioactive GRIND!

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    The LED is so bright on the EVH Phase 90 I actually used it as an emergency flash light when the power went out during band practice. I just stuck a patch cable in the input and pushed the button and I had a flashlight. LOL! Worked great.

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