There's really no downside if this stuff ends up being legit or not.
Like most potential releases Van Halen related, I remain in a state of cautious optimism until said hypothetical release is actually put out there...remains true for bootlegs, too. Did a trade once with someone who, in passing, claimed to have the 1984 VH Donnington show in video in its entirety and was willing to trade for it. After we completed an unrelated trade, I started asking when we could trade up for Donnington. This began a series of bullshit excuses on their end as to why they couldn't produce the goods they claimed they had.
Some traders are legit. Others just like to fuck with people. Others still aren't really sure WHAT they have in terms of a specific show: once did a trade with someone for a 1983 VH Argentina show and they sent me 1983 Brazil. When I informed them about the mistake, they were adamant that the show they sent me was Argentina.
Scramby eggs and bacon.
Isn't there a clip during the Panama video
That is proshot?
If I'm not mistaken Dave is running across the stage being filmed from a position in the upper
level, there are a lot of live clips in that Video
Could very well be from
A proshot 84 show
:-)
Last edited by moose; 04-08-2012 at 05:34 PM.
The 1984 show I went to in Providence, Rhode Island has long been claimed as one of the shows where footage was used for the Panama vid live clips. Roth even claimed onstage that the show was being filmed, and I could see camera operators in the camera positions high up near the roof pointing cameras at the stage...the same cameras used to film basketball and hockey games.
Nothing has ever surfaced, and later down the line I read that it was just a ruse to get people pumped up at the shows, and that there wasn't any film in the cameras.
it's legit !
Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth
Not so fast guys.
Do you think that VH's management would want to haul out a film truck and mobile studio every time they wanted to watch one of the shows they filmed?
If I were the band or management, I would want some VHS copies made to keep at home or office. This could very well be what the poster was talking about.
This would make what his friend has "second-generation" material (copy of a copy of the master), and if you include the encoding to digital, that would make it 3-times removed from the master. Still very clean.
So I would say his story is plausible.
As with everyone else....if he were to actually provide a full show on DVD to someone here, THEN I would believe it 100%, but right now, we cannot just go whole hog and believe him 100% even with the short clip. If Uruguay was like a lot of other South American countries back then, it is possible the show was telecast live on TV, and this could be a VHS recording from the TV broadcast.
We still have to wait and see.
The next move belongs to scottxconn.....all we can do is wait and see if it pans out.....
There are definitely three or four shots - barely a second or two in length - that are pro-shot work from an actual Van Halen concert in the Panama vid. One would guess, based on the amount of footage that was shot for the rest of the video, such as Dave and Al cruising in his low-rider or Ed blowing smoke rings at his piano, that an entire concert was filmed.
My karma just ran over your dogma.
Majority of the pro-shot stuff available today was recorded from TV broadcasts on VCR's. A few may have been scratch copies made from original media that somehow made it out publicly but were never mastered into a final product.
Yes, there's the clip the guy provided and it's more or less convincing... odds favor it being a home recording from a TV broadcast rather than a direct copy from VH's vault or anything floating around in their management's hands.
My point was... the guy is claiming to know someone who's allegedly sitting on a goldmine of pro-shot unreleased classic van halen that some woman allegedly burned copies of in the early to mid-80's. Given the format of the pro shot media used in those days... I question the whole premise of how she was able to copy the material. If all this stuff had been converted to something as simple as a home VHS tape back in the day and "someone who knew VH's management" could easily have had access and hours to gain a copy... then this stuff would be all over the place... not just now surfacing 30 years later...
"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
I don't doubt that Mr Walker...
I used to work for Bill Graham Productions in the early 80's as a live sound engineer and backline grunt. I spent some time in their production facility that handled the Bill Graham Presents TV stuff. While it wasn't Fort Knox or Area 51 you also couldn't stroll in with a blank VHS or Betamax tape and pop a quick copy of anything... plus they didn't have any "consumer" machines in the production studio.
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”― Stephen Hawking
“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”
80's chicks had a ton of hairspray in their hair. They wore some great smelling perfume. Tattoos were not the thing. Piercings were for punks. 80's chicks had class. They dressed nice and weren't fat sloppy fat asses with emotional problems.
I shoplifted some pron once. The things we had to do to get pron. Kids nowadays just do a internet search now. No fair. I think easy to get pron is what has made this younger generation lazy and complacent. The quest for pron not easy to find sparks creativity and desire.
She had such lovely, huge, natural titties and a hairy bush back then...fresh-faced and not augmented by plastic surgery or breast implants...
I kind of miss those days, when porn actresses looked natural, and it wasn't a case of watching someone titfuck a silicone implant or stick their dick in a botoxed trout-mouth. Now, don't get me wrong, I've adapted to the contemporary pron starlet. However, there was just something special about those days gone by, watching Christy Canyon get hosed down with a quart of jizz from Peter North.
Ah, memories...
What in the fuck happened to this thread???
Mind you...that wasn't a complaint...just sayin"...
Lol. Barbara Dare, Sharon Mitchell and Marilyn Chambers were my faves.....
I went on a google tear from this thread and found this forum. Good stuff!
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/index.php
Among the many awesome scans, they have like every Hustler Beaver Hunt from 1979 to 1984 in there. Awesome.
gnaw on it
Cool site OD !
BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
Love ya Mary Frances!
Last edited by jhale667; 04-10-2012 at 08:50 AM.
Originally posted by conmee
If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.
That is all.
Icon.Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667
Originally posted by Isaac R.
Then it's really true??:eek:
The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???
OMFG...who in their right mind...???
Originally posted by eddie78
I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.
We would stay at Mission Beach every summer when I was a kid. Not far from home in the East County, but a nice summer vacation. A couple seedy liquor/small markets down there owned by Arabs back when there weren't really many Arabs around. (Little Sams Market in Mission beach).
Grab a Cracked or Mad magazine, slip a Penthouse in the middle and gaze hoping the owner didn't come close enough to catch us. 2 of us had to just have the Cracked so if he checked he wouldn't see porn. We would quietly pass around the one with the dirty mag in it.
And if you happened across a dirty mag in the trash somewhere or something like that, you saved & protected that thing like it was a Honus Wagner baseball card.
Man...I hope this VH video is legit & comes out soon. The things we talk about in between VH nuggets.
Good to see business returning to normal around here...
The good thing about Internet porn/porn on DVD .. That that when u used to lend your mates your videos they always came back stopped were they Must have came lol it's like your in the pub and gotta look your pal in the eye and go dude the fat chick with the droopy tits is the one that mate you shoot
Oh christ... I remember we used to go dumpster diving behind the local strip mall when the magazine shop would rip the covers off the magazines that they didn't sell and threw the rest of them out. We'd keep one copy and hide them in a fort in the woods and then we'd sell the rest of them to the old perverts that would wander through the neighborhood. It was great growing up in the seventies.
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