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Hell, even if there is no holy grail full Oakland '81 show, if there are ANY full shows from the '81 tour that he can get, I am all for it!
In fact, if he provides full shows from the CVH era that are previously unreleased, I will not complain at all.
If he can just send a copy say, to one person here who can make further copies, etc. it would be fine. All we want is the release of unreleased material. And we want to make it easy for him to do so.
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I Myself live in Uruguay. and I was at the Cilindro that night, I was eleven years old back then, my uncle Raúl took me to the concert that changed my life forever. Not a single day gone by without a Van Halen song blasting in my stereo, so Van Halen is a natural part on my family life ( father, mother, sister and now wife and daughter). We all speak in spanish, but since I sing every VH song all the time my daughter Agustina who is five years old, Knows the lyrics too. Two days ago I was taking an afternoon nap and she woke me up singing " We came, we came , we came through blood and fire!!!" So I´m so much proud of her. And since I only got the audio recording of the Montevideo show, I beg you to please send us a dvd copy of the concert. Thank you. I can´t wait to see it live in front of our naked steaming eyes and ears!!!
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This Could Be The Real Deal.
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Sure hope so....
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Jagermeister (04-06-2012)
WTF? I was like the 8th person to question this matter...
Damn you Walker!! Here I was about to quote you in my sig for your clever "pay attention or you'll have to go sit at the kids table" comment... which was stellar. But oh no... time out for you pal and then get your smart ass into the kitchen helpin the women... you just bypassed the kids table and went straight to hell...
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Facts!
The guy takes the time to register here.
Makes one post in Main claiming to have new video that has never been seen. He also claims to have seen pro shot 1984 footage which we all know has never been seen.
Guy post a link to a youtube video that appears to be legit.
The guy leaves.
I miss this guy and want him to come back.
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Hmmmm I got 25 years combined if you include previous adventures in marriage. I'll have to give you well earned, time served credit... I take my slam back.
I believe it was that jack-wagon Jagermeister that started flinging pooh with the other monkeys in this thread...
Go to the guys YouTube and post comments. If he doesn't get a chance to get back here in the very near future, YouTube comments will get to him and hopefully let him know the enormous interest in the goods.
This was also reposted and paraphrased at vhtrading.com too. I'm there quite frequently and if there's anything else about this show posted there, I'll repost here.
http://www.vhtrading.com/topic/new-m...ot-1984-show-2
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SunisinuS (04-07-2012)
Well then.....your contract needs to be renegotiated
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Wouldn't be a shock to see a full-length 1984 pro-shot concert start surfacing and making the bootleg rounds, even after all this time.
Van Halen, and Roth, knew the value the band in terms of visuals live. Shit, I'll bet between Roth, Anthony and the Van Halens there are PLENTY of shows stashed away in their own private collections, maybe even to the point where these guys can't remember which specific shows they're sitting on.
For years there weren't any FW tour dates available on film outside of the Oakland clips and some rough Super 8 stuff from Chicago, then one day a 1981 Memphis show shot on video from the soundboard starts getting traded.
I'll tell you one thing. If that dude is the real deal, that is one fucking HELL of a first post!
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Pah....I want pro-shot stuff from 1978-1981. THAT would be the shit!
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wolfie seems to be the one getting shit done....the old songs coming out now in the set list i bet he's behind that.....cmon wolfie get the old man to release some old pro shot video!!!
I mean, props to Wolf if he's the one getting the band to knock out these deep tracks live.
To see the band ripping through:
The Full Bug
Women In Love
Outta Love Again
Girl Gone Bad
Hear About It Later
I mean, shit, they could have easily just went out and did Van Halen's Greatest Hits along with 3 or 4 tunes from ADKOT and called it a night.
1980Invasion (11-03-2013)
Hmmm.. Clip looks real. This guy posts this then dissapears ?? Nice tease for a bunch of people that would love to have this stuff ! Hope he comes back and offers to trade or whatever.
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Was revisiting this thread this morning and read the original post... I can only assume in the excitement of the possibility of something rare, unseen surfacing... most of you, especially Mr Walker, glossed over a blaring historical fact that makes this whole prospect highly suspicious and very unlikely.
Let's review a few facts...
Factual evidence exists that all archival audio and video material from Van Halen was stored at Pacific Title Archives. The inventory sheets have been posted here many times and show all the various pro-shot video and recorded audio tape stuff for several known recorded performances. It was all stored in climate controlled vaults as you see below. Note a very important key fact... this was ALL on TAPE and FILM STOCK stored in a secure storage facility.In the 80's, his ex-wife worked at a company which did business with the band's management, and she was able to access the band's library of recordings. The recording is similar to that of the other concerts in circulation from that tour, including the A/V quality, although the band has a bit more energy on this one, and the crowd was really into it the whole night.
His ex was able to copy quite a bit of material back then, including several complete proshots from different tours with Dave which are not in circulation yet. I saw the list of recordings he has, and the best way to describe it is that it's a goldmine. Aside from the Uruguay show, the only other footage he showed me was of a proshot of one of the 1984 shows; the camerawork and video quality is amazing. I had to ask him about the Grail, and his ex wasn't able to find anything, just the three videos of the Oakland show already in circulation.
Early 1980's technology... remember before the current digital age. The wonderful world of analog video film and magnetic tape for recording live performances. Video was shot on film... audio was recorded to tape both on separate machines and spliced together and synced before transferred to another tape media format that combined them both. No digital storage devices... no CD's, no flash memory, etc... Hell the Sony Beta Cam was introduced in 1982... but commercial pro-shot was still huge cameras and separate sound recording units. VHS camcorders didn't emerge until 1985.
Why all the history lessons... well it's simple. You would need a truck load of huge video/audio transfer machines to "copy" pro-shot film and transfer 2" analog audio tape... then more machines to sync and audio and video into a single source. Remember Van Halen's media was all in secured archival storage. Which did not house the machines to duplicate this stuff on site. The possibility of someone's ex wife having access is one thing... the plausibility of her having access to the complex analog duplication technology of the times and the ability to even operate it just doesn't add up... at all. In 1985, nor even in 1990 it's not like you could walk up and connect a cable and dump something to CD... nor flash drive, nor even plug your new camcorder into a film/tape duplicator and burn a quick copy for yourself.
Sorry to piss on anyone's hopeful leg and tell em it's raining... but consider the story and then apply the real technology. None of the pro-shot CVH stuff could have easily been copied without a ton or two of huge complex analog machines. Plus given the one and done posting... this person just pulled a classic "Sea Gull" antic long known on these boards... Fly in, make a whole lot of noise, crap all over the place and fly off...
Happy Easter...
Nickdfresh (04-08-2012)
Well there is a clip !! That looks real. Maybe she just ended up will a few VHS tapes someone handed her. Those shows were all filmed for tv over there. I would question the 1984 show though. No clip and he didn't say were it was from. Monsters of Rock maybe ? Hope it's all true. Time will tell.
I dunno, maybe I am crazy but look at everything before the solo on the clip. It looks right, but could be carefully put together to approximate what should be there. The solo does look to be YRGM and syncs perfectly with what I am seeing.
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