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A blues like many blues musicians did before.
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Originally posted by conmee
If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.
That is all.
Icon.Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667
Originally posted by Isaac R.
Then it's really true??:eek:
The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???
OMFG...who in their right mind...???
Originally posted by eddie78
I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.Comment
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After listening closely again, I have to admit that Shapes Of Things has similarities to some Zep songs.
But this album is a special issue I would say.Comment
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Led Zeppelin was the dregs that were left after everything good left the Yardbirds. Pagie made it the New Yardbirds and then it became Lead Blimp. A mobster managed criminal enterprise that duped the public and got rich off of stolen music who quickly sold the catalog and ran off with the money leaving the suckers who bought it with the legal troubles that would later surface.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”― Stephen HawkingComment
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Have heard something similar as the "Immigrant Song" before? 1970. This riff is unique.
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There is really three types of (American) blues: Delta, Chicago (i.e., electric) and Texas blues. Most limey musicians who were "influenced" by the blues opted for the Chicago citing the likes of John Lee Hooker, Howlin' Wolf, Elmore James, and a lot of the Chess Label (Chicago) musicians such as Chuck Berry, and Bo Diddley simply because, again, they were electrified. That Jeff Beck record plays homage to a lot of the Chicago style of the late 50's to mid 60's even if his playing was a bit haphazard in trying to understand what made these musicians tick. Even Clapton himself said when he first heard 'Key To The Highway' by Big Bill Broonzy(sp?) that he had absolutely no idea he was black. Clapton stated he childhood was sheltered and he had never seen a black person in his life prior to listening to Broonzy.
I don't quite agree with Chef's statement that Beck record was a high influence on Page other than say, the commercial appeal of it. Obviously there was a market and money to be made for playing American black music to the white middle class America as long as it was being done by white musicians themselves. And that is where my bitch with Zeppelin lies. Nothing they did was original or "groundbreaking." It was plagiarism in the most pejorative, disrespectful sense. I have no doubt Zeppy was influential on many a band to follow in terms of blueprinting riff-bashing incorporated rock with blues scales as the structure. Problem was it sucked. It was boring. It was ridiculous. 'Loudness,' anybody?
Now nobody has a patent on the blues in terms of singing about "wimmin' doing you wrong, etc. My bitch is are you doing these songs from personal experience as in you lived them or was it for the commercialism that many a person has been rejected by somebody as some juncture in their life? Was Page the son of slave owners, did he work in the cotton fields of Mississippi? No, and it doesn't matter, and is highly irrelevant. What does matter is how he stole from the roots of blues by some vicarious bullshit means. And he was genius at it, too. I'll give him credit for that.
Many a musician Page stole from died penniless, unmentioned and uncredited. Only until Page was sued in who knows how many out-of-court settlements did he bother his management at SuperHype music to change songwriting credits to avoid further embarrassment. To me, the guy will always be an embarrassment on the pages of rock history. He built an empire on the backs of those who lived miserable lives but had the original creativity of musical expression that was crucial to their plight of survival in the human condition. This is something Page will never understand and therefore, neither do his fanbase. If for one second you think you know something about "da blooz" from Jimmy Page apart from a pentatonic scale, then your life is very sad indeed.Comment
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Paraphrasing form Roth's Crazy From The Heat book: "Valerie Bertinelli was hanging backstage during a VH tour, and I had the soundtrack to South Pacific blasting. She had a curious look on her face, so I explained that the singer in Zeppelin used the vocal line from 'Bali Hai' for 'The Immigrant Song.' To this day, I'm convinced she believes Led Zeppelin wrote South Pacific."
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