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    Stomp Box Addiction? Compulsive FX Disorder? You decide......



    Ok here is an interesting performance art notion:

    Wire up about 1,000 of them and lay them on the floor just as the ones above are.

    Plug them into a Marshall stack.

    Turn the amp on and up, and have someone like Yngwie Malmsteen do 20 minutes of masturbatory guitar soloing while a hot naked chick in kneepads, studded leather gloves, and Nike Air Jordans crawls back and forth over them while twisting the knobs randomly.

    Then for the grand finale, have the naked chick throw some gasoline on the field of pedals, and set them on fire while Yngwie Malmsteen tries to play something that reflects what is going on.

    And record the entire event at 24-bit, 96khz in 3-D 7.1 surround sound.

    Available at a music store near your on Blu-Ray for $19.99

    Special editions include a genuine standard guitar pick available at any guitar shop, and an autograph by the hot naked chick who is in the video.

    Ultra speshul $100 deluxe editions contain the pick, the autographed Blu-ray cover and a 1" section of one of the melted guitar cables used to hook the pedals together.

    Sounds like a way to make some cool cash. So who wants to donate the pedals, the guitar and the Marshal Stack?

    We need the services of a mobile recording studio, a 3-D camera crew from James Cameron, and the willingness of Yngwie Malmsteen to donate 20 minutes of his precious time to randomly noodle on the guitar. Which he can then smash into the Marshall stack after setting it on fire. All pieces of said guitar and amp to be auctioned off for charity.

    All the remains of the pedals to be auctioned off to benefit the International Association For The Preservation Of The Island Of Misfit Guitar Toys.

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    I saw somewhere that that is supposedly David Byrne's pedalboard... never knew he was that into effects, you certainly can't tell from the Talking Heads music...although Adrian Belew played for them for a bit IIRC, and that guy is an effects wiz...maybe he caught the bug from him...



    I like your idea though... Can the naked girl please be Kate Upton?
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    Shit. That dude bought the whole Boss catalog. Nice neat wiring loom though. I really don't mess with pedals that much because I find dealing with them as annoying. They are all over the floor, you have to find a power source. Some of the ones I like are old ones that only use a battery and it's always dead. I usually just say fuck it and plug directly into the amp. I would rather play than mess with stuff in the signal chain and tap dance on it.
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    Plus too many pedals in front of your amp completely sucks the life out of your tone. Besides a Boss TU-2, the only things in front of my amp are an MXR Micro Amp (for a solo boost) and a Vox Wah...

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    Now I'm in a 1 guitar band I'm finding I'm using effects much more but I'm trying to reign it in a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Now I'm in a 1 guitar band I'm finding I'm using effects much more but I'm trying to reign it in a bit.
    Yeah, I didn't use any effects at all in the 90s, but as I started doing the 1-guitar band thing again I decided it'd be cool to be able to embellish things a bit. Plus doing covers again it helped to be able to better emulate the standout recorded tones of the set list. I have a Line 6 MM4 and DL4 along with an EVH Phase90 in my loop to cover all the flange/chorus/vibrato/echo needs, I'd like to add an MXR Carbon Copy sometime in the future, but I still want to keep things fairly simple.




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    Absolutely. I was told by a sound engineer that one of the weakest links is the cables in the system. He said he sees so many people buy expensive gear and good speakers and use cheap shit cables. I use really good guitar cables and I have found they are cheaper in the long run. They last longer than the cheap shit but even at that you have to replace them time to time. The more you add in that signal chain the more resistance and opportunity for noise you get. You are dealing with a very weak signal from guitar pickups, it doesn't take much to screw it up before the first stage of the pre-amp boosts it to line level.

    I usually have a Strat through a Fender 63 Reverb pedal, and a Vox wah wah and into the amp. That's it. I use a SansAmp PSA1.1 and that's running direct into the PA and feeding my monitors. Not much to hide behind.

    I run my bass through the same SansAmp but into a different channel. It works great for those nice glassy Strat tones and bass. For dirt I still like a good ol tube head.
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    I have 3 stomp boxes.

    Firstly is original Ibanez TS-9 Tubescreamer, then a Boss tuner, then a Boss NS-1 noise gate. Into my Marshall stack.

    That is all I use. No use for anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    I have 3 stomp boxes.

    Firstly is original Ibanez TS-9 Tubescreamer, then a Boss tuner, then a Boss NS-1 noise gate. Into my Marshall stack.

    That is all I use. No use for anything else.
    Boss tuner pedal ... Inde fuckin structible .... Awesome kit it just works , best pedal I ever owned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    I have 3 stomp boxes.

    Firstly is original Ibanez TS-9 Tubescreamer, then a Boss tuner, then a Boss NS-1 noise gate. Into my Marshall stack.

    That is all I use. No use for anything else.
    Boss tuner pedal ... Inde fuckin structible .... Awesome kit it just works , best pedal I ever owned

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    I became addicted to my MXR phaser for a while there, trying to get it down to using it under half the time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I became addicted to my MXR phaser for a while there, trying to get it down to using it under half the time...
    I have one and found I used it more for Hendrix Univibe effects with a Fuzz Face than using it for VH stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I have one and found I used it more for Hendrix Univibe effects with a Fuzz Face than using it for VH stuff.
    Exact same thing here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I have one and found I used it more for Hendrix Univibe effects with a Fuzz Face than using it for VH stuff.
    I have one of the regular orange ones too that's no longer on my board (much like my MXR Distortion + that I haven't needed since I got a Boogie), but the EVH one in "script" mode with the rate turned all the way down seriously gets you close to the Van Halen I lead tone... I find I like it better for the Univibe type clean sounds too...




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    Why are Boss DD3's so in demand over the other shit they have made since?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Why are Boss DD3's so in demand over the other shit they have made since?

    Because it's cool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Why are Boss DD3's so in demand over the other shit they have made since?

    2998 POSTS!

    come on woman....2 more. Make #3000 a GREAT one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Why are Boss DD3's so in demand over the other shit they have made since?
    Probably just the simplicity... I have a DD-7 that I liked since it did more than the DD-3.

    I never really paid much attention to any new Analog Delays... I have a 1978 MXR Analog Delay that I bought new. Never looked back and still use it some today...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Probably just the simplicity... I have a DD-7 that I liked since it did more than the DD-3.

    I never really paid much attention to any new Analog Delays... I have a 1978 MXR Analog Delay that I bought new. Never looked back and still use it some today...

    I have a few Boss pedals that belonged to an old boyfriend who still owes me money. I should really Craigslist that stuff - along with his guitars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Probably just the simplicity... I have a DD-7 that I liked since it did more than the DD-3.

    I never really paid much attention to any new Analog Delays... I have a 1978 MXR Analog Delay that I bought new. Never looked back and still use it some today...


    LOVE those...wish I'd bought one as a kid... I saw a vintage on in a shop in Hollywood going for some astronomical price...

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    I have a DD3.


    Golly.

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    I am an effects addict..................

    just saying................
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    I've got more FX at my house. Just don't ever use them. Rack mount stuff that will create any sound known to man or bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    I've got more FX at my house. Just don't ever use them. Rack mount stuff that will create any sound known to man or bat.
    Still technology hasn't found a way to make Jimmy Page not suck. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Still technology hasn't found a way to make Jimmy Page not suck. Go figure.
    Post of the year.



    You and I do agree on a few things at least.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post

    You and I do agree on a few things at least.....
    Blasphemer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    Damn....that is one epic stomp box setup.

    Impressive to look at, but looks impractical to use.
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    Dupe sorry dudes

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    I think Lounge is Buddhist, actually
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    Anyone wanna see Pagey at his worst, look at video of the ARMS Benefit with Clapton, Beck, Page, etc. where he does an instrumental version of Stairway To Heaven.....the solo is so butcheringly awful he should have just stopped playing and left the stage.....and it is quite obvious the other heavyweight players on the stage were VERY aware of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    Anyone wanna see Pagey at his worst...
    No, not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    Anyone wanna see Pagey at his worst, look at video of the ARMS Benefit with Clapton, Beck, Page, etc. where he does an instrumental version of Stairway To Heaven.....the solo is so butcheringly awful he should have just stopped playing and left the stage.....and it is quite obvious the other heavyweight players on the stage were VERY aware of it.
    Not only his playing, but his appearance and mannerisms were deeply disturbing as well. He looked to be about 90 pounds soaking wet (which he was, as he was sweating profusely) and was doing all of these exaggerated movements that were an embarrassing parody of his former self.

    All in all, the guy was a selfish, self-absorbed junkie, and had been one since sometime in 1976. This explains why there is little if any footage of the band after that time on the Led Zeppelin DVD, save for the Knebworth show in 1979. Even then, you can see several parts where Plant is looking at Page in pure disgust, and where the singer pretty much just gives up at the end, blowing all of the vocal ques in "Whole Lotta Love." Plant) generally looks like he rather be anywhere else than on the stage, and of course Page already was in another universe entirely.

    And don't get me started on the 1985 Live Aid or the 1988 Atlantic Records shows. How he managed to clean himself up a few months later for the outstanding Outrider tour I'll never know.
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    Jimmy Page in a very early phase of his career.

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    But seriously...you make it sound like JP is in the same group as SH come on people......Jimmy Page guitarist of one of the best band in Rock history along with the mighty VH...poking fun at JP is like making fun of EVH in my book...You cannot disrespect the guitar gods
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    Quote Originally Posted by So this is love View Post
    But seriously...you make it sound like JP is in the same group as SH come on people......Jimmy Page guitarist of one of the best band in Rock history along with the mighty VH...poking fun at JP is like making fun of EVH in my book...You cannot disrespect the guitar gods
    Are you on dope? The two are not comparable but for sake of argument, I will anyway.

    For one, Jimmy Page does have talent. He has to to be able to pull of the blatant thievery such as he did. His "chops" as a guitar player were marginal at best and thus hardly worth "respect." Page came from a sheltered white English suburban background (as did all of the members of Zep) who, like most white players who appreciated black/blues music never completely understood it; he managed to keep his audience just as ignorant and maintained it by flying Zeppelin (pun intended) under the plagiarist radar for years. If I am to ever give that limey rat bastard any credit it would be in the way Page handled Zeppelin as a businessman more than musician. Of course, a lot of Zep's success did lie with Peter Grant who shred business tactics gave Zeppelin that lewd reputation they were so know for off stage. Page definitively knew how to run Zep like a corporation. He thumbed his nose at the top brass of Atlantic Records never allowing any one of them in a session or give any criticism or input. In fact, Page went to great lengths to draw out contracts to keep record execs out of his doings as long as they sold records. Page also shut out "hangers on", groupies, even family members and allowed for little democratic process when it came to the rest of band's ideas to present themselves. Plant said it himself that Zep was "purely Jimmy's band and that the rest of us were just the missing pieces he needed to fill in his attitude." It's no surprise Plant has no interest in a Zeppelin reunion.

    Page was/is an asshole and by rights had to be to keep Zeppelin as popular as he did. Problem with him (as with the rest of the Zeppelin) is that Page let his own success fuck him up: drugs, alcohol, lawsuits for his plagiarism, and a dwindling lack of ideas from 'Physical Graffiti' onwards. To me, all but the first Zep record were recorded poorly with bad mixes and horrible overdubs. Their last album is by far the most ear fatigue listening bag of shit I've ever heard, garbled nonsense made by a junkie fuckwit still disillusioned by the notion that he had something left in him to say. He did not and has not ever since.

    Eddie, on the other hand, also came from a white suburban sheltered lifestyle, but unlike Page, came out with a sound that was unheard of before. Eddie never really revolutionized guitar playing but he did in the way of electric guitar tone. Eddie built his own axe from the ground up, he took the instrument to a new level in a way that shocked many people in that the guitar didn't have to play the same role as it always did (especially in a power trio setup). Eddie was/is a thief, too but unlike Page was vociferous abut who he stole from and instead of recycling his influences, he took what he liked, revamped it and tossed out the rest. Unlike Page, Eddie was not a good businessman with VH instead opting for focusing his interest in the playing rather than the money. Eddie made some horrible decisions: the hiring of Hagar, refusing payment for playing on Michel Jackson's record, and then the abomination that was VH III comes to mind. In fact it was Hager alone that literally destroyed anything that was pure about VH, turning the band into another bunch of overpaid rockstar scum and VH went to fun to just another shitty corporate-influenced machine selling their souls to the likes of Pepsi for fuck's sake. That was really the end of VH as far I am concerned.

    Like Page, Eddie was a fuck up. Again, drugs, drink, cancer and even a failed marriage took the best out of him (he never really played the same since). Unilke Page, Eddie alienated his hard core fan base remaining reclusive and a wee bit angry as a result. The VH 2004 Tour was a god damn joke, a last hurrah for the Sammy's bank account and VH's credibility. Even with this new album (which leaves me unsettled), finds Eddie attempting to redeem himself and he seems to have the right attitude to make it through. And finally, every VH album (yes, including the Sammy years) were well recorded, produced and mixed as to any shitty, hissy ear fatigue crap that was Zeppelin. At least VH put some god damn thought process into the making of a record!

    So you see they are not "gods" but rather fuck up alcoholics and junkies who are not immune to criticisms for their mistakes in life. Eddie is a musical genius but is also an asshole. Jimmy Page is just an asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Are you on dope? The two are not comparable but for sake of argument, I will anyway.

    For one, Jimmy Page does have talent. He has to to be able to pull of the blatant thievery such as he did. His "chops" as a guitar player were marginal at best and thus hardly worth "respect." Page came from a sheltered white English suburban background (as did all of the members of Zep) who, like most white players who appreciated black/blues music never completely understood it; he managed to keep his audience just as ignorant and maintained it by flying Zeppelin (pun intended) under the plagiarist radar for years. If I am to ever give that limey rat bastard any credit it would be in the way Page handled Zeppelin as a businessman more than musician. Of course, a lot of Zep's success did lie with Peter Grant who shred business tactics gave Zeppelin that lewd reputation they were so know for off stage. Page definitively knew how to run Zep like a corporation. He thumbed his nose at the top brass of Atlantic Records never allowing any one of them in a session or give any criticism or input. In fact, Page went to great lengths to draw out contracts to keep record execs out of his doings as long as they sold records. Page also shut out "hangers on", groupies, even family members and allowed for little democratic process when it came to the rest of band's ideas to present themselves. Plant said it himself that Zep was "purely Jimmy's band and that the rest of us were just the missing pieces he needed to fill in his attitude." It's no surprise Plant has no interest in a Zeppelin reunion.

    Page was/is an asshole and by rights had to be to keep Zeppelin as popular as he did. Problem with him (as with the rest of the Zeppelin) is that Page let his own success fuck him up: drugs, alcohol, lawsuits for his plagiarism, and a dwindling lack of ideas from 'Physical Graffiti' onwards. To me, all but the first Zep record were recorded poorly with bad mixes and horrible overdubs. Their last album is by far the most ear fatigue listening bag of shit I've ever heard, garbled nonsense made by a junkie fuckwit still disillusioned by the notion that he had something left in him to say. He did not and has not ever since.

    Eddie, on the other hand, also came from a white suburban sheltered lifestyle, but unlike Page, came out with a sound that was unheard of before. Eddie never really revolutionized guitar playing but he did in the way of electric guitar tone. Eddie built his own axe from the ground up, he took the instrument to a new level in a way that shocked many people in that the guitar didn't have to play the same role as it always did (especially in a power trio setup). Eddie was/is a thief, too but unlike Page was vociferous abut who he stole from and instead of recycling his influences, he took what he liked, revamped it and tossed out the rest. Unlike Page, Eddie was not a good businessman with VH instead opting for focusing his interest in the playing rather than the money. Eddie made some horrible decisions: the hiring of Hagar, refusing payment for playing on Michel Jackson's record, and then the abomination that was VH III comes to mind. In fact it was Hager alone that literally destroyed anything that was pure about VH, turning the band into another bunch of overpaid rockstar scum and VH went to fun to just another shitty corporate-influenced machine selling their souls to the likes of Pepsi for fuck's sake. That was really the end of VH as far I am concerned.

    Like Page, Eddie was a fuck up. Again, drugs, drink, cancer and even a failed marriage took the best out of him (he never really played the same since). Unilke Page, Eddie alienated his hard core fan base remaining reclusive and a wee bit angry as a result. The VH 2004 Tour was a god damn joke, a last hurrah for the Sammy's bank account and VH's credibility. Even with this new album (which leaves me unsettled), finds Eddie attempting to redeem himself and he seems to have the right attitude to make it through. And finally, every VH album (yes, including the Sammy years) were well recorded, produced and mixed as to any shitty, hissy ear fatigue crap that was Zeppelin. At least VH put some god damn thought process into the making of a record!

    So you see they are not "gods" but rather fuck up alcoholics and junkies who are not immune to criticisms for their mistakes in life. Eddie is a musical genius but is also an asshole. Jimmy Page is just an asshole.
    I did not say they were saint in anyways....talentwise (totally dig the songs they've written) for me these two guys are up there and they are GUITAR GODS...Now for the rest of your post I agree somewhat you but that was not the point of my comment...

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    (totally dig the songs they've written)
    I do too. As in burying them - especially the Hagar years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by So this is love View Post
    But seriously...you make it sound like JP is in the same group as SH come on people......Jimmy Page guitarist of one of the best band in Rock history along with the mighty VH...poking fun at JP is like making fun of EVH in my book...You cannot disrespect the guitar gods
    I like Led Zeppelin's studio recordings. All of them. They are groundbreaking.

    Live? There are many documents which show a Jimmy Page who plays sloppy live, mostly in the lead passages.

    Nonetheless, one of the most important rock bands of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post
    I like Led Zeppelin's studio recordings. All of them. They are groundbreaking.

    Live? There are many documents which show a Jimmy Page who plays sloppy live, mostly in the lead passages.

    Nonetheless, one of the most important rock bands of history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post
    I like Led Zeppelin's studio recordings. All of them. They are groundbreaking.

    Live? There are many documents which show a Jimmy Page who plays sloppy live, mostly in the lead passages.

    Nonetheless, one of the most important rock bands of history.
    I see. "Groundbreaking" you say? In what way? In that all Zep recordings should be placed in a deep grave and left there never to see the light of day ever again?

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