This is Sammy's personal bodyguard and man toy.
When VHIII came out the band was on Rockline I believe. Mighta been Jim Ladd. But Eddie & Gary both said Gary would write these lyrics, verses, chorus and bring them to Ed. Eddie would then write music around them. he said it was totally opposite of anything he had ever done. And it is backwards from the norm. Maybe that's part of the reason the songs sound kinda out of focus.
“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”
this was 2oo7?
Live Right here in Nashville TN always had and always will the smile with the style the voice that leaves you no choice I heard you missed me, I'm back!!!! thank you very much and how the hell are ya!!
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”― Stephen Hawking
First you would have to obtain a copy...
I've never seen one in person, not even at a pawn shop...
I recall listening to the Bob & Tom show around the time that VHIII came out. They were discussing a press release from the band or record company that announced contest winners would be able to receive one of two copies of the album as a grand prize. A palatable sense of dismay filled the airwaves, one that did not ever go away. In fact, the day of the album's issue, I happened to be doing some framing in a strip shopping mall that featured a Target store. When I went over and bought the album, I returned to the job site showing off the CD. This was greeted by a general consensus of my co-workers around the lines of "Dude, that album sucks." Apparently, there had been a radio show the night before playing cuts from the record, which by all accounts (including my own fuzzily remembered thoughts) that went disastrously badly.
To this day, that album depresses me in a way only equal to an evening spent swallowing bad whiskey while listening to Jackson Browne and Neil Young albums or eating tofu, only in roughly 1/3 the time.
Last edited by chefcraig; 05-31-2012 at 11:29 AM.
Believe me I never bought, or have any intention of buying that album. I've never seen a physical copy of it either actually. The songs are on YouTube, as is the case with just about every song ever written.
Well, if you are ever feeling adventurous or merely wish to have a large set of balls slapped against your chin, seek out the deluxe version that came wrapped in the equivalent of a sardine can and offered the ultimate bonus of a fucking guitar pick for the effort. No, I am not kidding.
You should be banned for that image...
Trust me, the devastatingly awful carnage brought to my dignity and self-esteem created by purchasing and then listening to this utterly vile, worthless piece of shit has done more to devastate me than any public banning from a website could ever hope to produce. Talk about a letdown. Then again, it did help prepare me for married life and preposterously low expectations.
I bought it. Gave it 3 listens through. Went back to Tower Records & asked for my money back. When they asked why I said "this sucks". They wouldn't do it. So I went to another Tower & said it was scratched....yeah that's it, scratched. So they gave me a fresh unopened copy which I proceeded to then take to the other Tower and get a full refund.
Only sad part of my story is I probably ended up counting for 2 sales of that crap album even though I ended up not spending a dollar or keeping a copy.
Digging this... not a slam, but pretty on point to me...
Dave or Grave for me... but some of the vocal choices have been interesting to say the least...
Absolutely great on some, and on others his 'interpretations' leave a bit to be desired; especially when it seems he can still sing in that mid-range whiskey vibe that are the way the songs are actually recorded... I feel he was much stronger 07/08, but then again, was also 5 years ago... not sure what happened to his voice, but it does sound different and I noticed it immediately at the Cafe Wha? gig...
All that being said, still, DLR fronted Van Halen is the ONLY Van Halen...
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NEW Wicked Maraya coming in 2015!!!
'Lifetime In Hell' (unreleased 1991) and 2 NEW songs!!!
"A little more volume in the headphones please..."
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First Roth Army Kiwi To See Van Halen Live 6/16/2012 Phoenix Arizona.
Ok, so Im watching "So This Is Love" video again and here is the MIGHTY Van Halen.
Fuck, Dave is taking no prisoners on this song and proving to the world why Van Halen is the shit. Ther's no smiling , no "victory" dance, just good old fashioned in your face rock n roll. Ive always liked the way Dave talked back then, kinda like a stoned surfer.
Nothing different that Dave couldnt do between today and back then except for the flying splits off the drumkit and a high jump/leg kick.
The difference that I think Wolfsbane is referring to is the lack of Dave's old attitude (clearly seen in this video) on the current tour & that can be easily fixed by only Dave himself.
Last edited by devildawg; 06-02-2012 at 11:44 PM.
The upshot is that Roth is gettin' old, and some concessions have been made to counter this.
In terms of his vocal and physical stage presentation, certain aspects have diminished with age. As well they would be expected to.
However, as those aspects are essentially now no longer present (kung fu acrobatics and high-end banshee screams) in any meaningful capacity, this just serves to place a greater emphasis on what is left, which in Dave's case is the singing. This makes it all the more noticeable when the lead vocal approach is subpar, because there aren't any splits off the drum riser or barefoot-on-hot-coals yelps to refocus attention to.
Agreed 100% that Van Halen ain't worth a damn without Roth in it. I'm probably a little too critical in some respects, but I honestly think I'd be hard-pressed to find many who would disagree that the current incarnation of Van Halen live would benefit from Roth just singing the tunes as they were written. At $100 a pop per ticket and this being the second go-around at the reunion, I don't give the band 100% credit for simply existing now the way I did in 2007/2008 (THAT tour was a miracle considering the state of things in the years 2003-2006), and the idea that because they are onstage at this age somehow by default innoculates them from any criticism...the belief that someone is less of a fan if they have a critical opinion on ANY aspect of the band is patently ridiculous. As much as anything else, Van Halen are a commodity putting out product. Consumer opinion on how that product could potentially be made better is par for the course.
Scramby eggs and bacon.
If you want to hear some grade A musicianship go see Van Halen. If you want the blow you away overall experience of the late 70's to mid 80's stay home. It's not there. VH is tame compared to what it was. Just look at how Ed dresses now and his guitars look boring. Roth tries to jazz it up. It's clear they focuse on the music and that's fabulous. If you like music more than a show, go see them.
I'm perfectly happy with the way Dave is on stage at this point of the tour with him being as old as he is, however the higher register, all over the map singing should be much better.
As I mentioned somewhere else once or more, in the late-70s early 80s, Uncle Dave was a youthful, swaggering, macho bad-ass hell-bent on conquering the Earth, and laying as many women as possible, while have the party of a lifetime along the way....
Now...30 years on down the road, since he DID accomplish all that....he is now a middle-aged song and dance man.
He is, now more than he ever was before, a rock version of Al Jolsen mixed with some Cab Calloway.
His "jam" with Ed during "Unchained" is a complete example of Al Jolsen/Ella Fitzgerald scat-singing in a hard rock context.
That is what has always made him unique....he took the Great American Songbook as an INFLUENCE, mixed it with a molotov cocktail, turned it inside out, added a dash of Otis Redding, Al Jolsen and Cab Calloway, strained it through a Muddy Waters electrified grill-cloth, and the result is 100-proof Uncle Dave's Medicinal Mixture in a 120-minute-long whiskey bottle performance!
I am still trying to figure out what the cards are for.
It's been talked up every angle before... the odd part in this thread is folks who previously dismissed III as a total piece of shit now mentioning parts that had some redeeming quality... It is a Van Halen record.
The amazing thing is... the transformation from III to ADKOT. In a blind listen test you wouldn't think it's from the same band with different singers or even from the same galaxy.
Clearly Dave brings an old familiar dimension. But I'm starting to think musically Wolfgang is more responsible for the kick your ass youthful qualities that ADKOT comes packing... with both barrels loaded!!
I would like to thank all of you who supported my comments and were sympathetic to my point of view.
Just watched the LA and Oakland videos. I read that the volume is turned up! Wow. VH is kicking ass.
If Maiden, Purple, AC/DC, Megadeth, Ozzy, Motorhead can all still kickass, why can't VH.
We want VH 1, 2, WACF, FW, DD, 1984, ADKOT. .
VH is back. Long live Rock and Roll.
BTW, Sniper, I never bought or listened to VH 3. Kiss my ass.
Last edited by wolfsbane; 06-04-2012 at 08:43 PM.
I re-read your first post in this thread but I'm not going back through the other 4 pages...are you saying you'd prefer Dave solo - OR was it just that you'd prefer a little of the old Dave magic? And no, I'm not knockin' your POV either way.
American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.
but dude hes like 60 now he cant do the things like he use too. amyway the new tour new music will kick back in
yes Dave's voice is thrashed But
the new cd for this VH fan is amazing can't stop playing it and honestly that was enough for me the tour and show last night over in a hearbeat
the music lives on forever
and Dave still got the moves greatest front man ever
Yes. It IS a sort of magic. A lethal and radioactive combination of ingredients that make Dave completely unique.
He is an entry in the Rock and Roll History books unto himself.
Yes, his vocals aren't as great as they were in 2007-2008, but it is because his voice is not what it used to be.
The effort is there....I am floored by what I am hearing him do.....
Seriously, with the state of his pipes now (meaning, not as good as last tour).....he is putting out not just 110%, but 150%
And the thing that truly makes me overlook the screech is that he is not solely a singer. He is a fucking entertainer!
I am 1000% happy with the lineup, the tour and the CD.
Sure...wish Dave's voice was a bit better, but it could just be due to the massive amount of dates.
Sooooo fucking happy VH is back! Words cannot describe.
Last edited by Hardrock69; 06-07-2012 at 06:07 AM.
Dave's vocals suck compared to '07-'08...
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listening to 'Blood and Fire'.
=VH= aint over for me yet.
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