Hi Envy , i got exactly what you are talking about , you can undertsand get it and feel it
but most of the fans do not . Maybe not even Dave.
I'm not sure how much of a die hard fan you are but Dave started losing it around 1994.
What i'm talking and what's lacking it's called attitude. He does not have it anymore.
Same thing happened to Gene Simmons ,it has nothing to do with age. It has nothing to do with
physical abilities. It's about playing the part.
Gene was the Demon , it was frightening, look at 1975-82 videos , he was a madman
the looks the moves the in-your-face attitude was gone once he took off the make up.
I was happy in 1996 when the reunion tour started , i thought wow the Demon will be back !!!
I was wrong ! Demon never came back ! It was Gene Simmons with make up now 1996-2012.
He moves exactly like his non-make up persona,he forgot all the crazy moves and wild mannerisms
from the Demon !
Same thing with Dave. around 1994 he cut his hair and he got involved in the mambo slammers thing.
If you look for 1994 shows you'll see him dancing and acting totally different ! Something happened
around 1993-94. Even his voice changed a lot !!!
He tried to bring back some of the old Dave around 2002 for the Sam and Dave tour but he focused
more on the looks and kicks more than the attitude.
In the 70-80's he was aggresive, he smiled a lot but not always ...now he looks goofy with the
permanent smile and stupid dancing. In the 80's he played the part of the kickass wild surfer guy
that could kick your ass anytime, he acted serious , that's what's missing , the agressive and seriousness
and stop the clown act it was OK for the 1985-86 Videos , now it's too late but he needs to get serious.
Same thing he is doing when he sings Dance the night away now with the higher register, he thinks
he is improving it but he is not !!! I wish somebody could tell him to get serious and act like a badass
Dave instead of the funny clown that he is portraying nowadays.
And i know what i'm talking about ! Look at the USFestival videos, he was SERIOUS.He meant DANGER
with a little bit of Vaudeville ...Now it's 99.9% Vaudeville !
Every single detail...
That poster should be in 3D ! Momshells apartment number !
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This is Dave in '07 - just 4 1/2 years ago - sexy as hell! No way he couldn't be that guy if he wanted to.
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You may be right...
I can't hear you....la la la la!!!
Yeah, I must admit the flowery sleeves/gloves/whatever they are do look just a little bit gay. But it was the 80s......
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Man, you GOT IT!!! Thats exactly what I'm talking about!!! He was all badass, sexy and serious. And now he's goofy. And it has nothing to do with age.
And you are absolutely right, everybody doesn't get it. Either you feel it, or you don't. I just hope Dave feels it, and brings it back. And stops smiling all the fucking time. And gets back to his serious "I hate you but I wanna fuck you"-face.
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I don't think he is gay. But I could bet my life on that he is bi-sexual. I have always suspected, but when I saw the interview he did with MTVs Mark Goodman, in the 80-ies, I knew...It looked like Dave wanted to eat the guy up, you could tell from his body language that there was something there from Daves side. Goodman didn't respond. At least not in front of camera.
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wot FORD said. the slightly effeminate men got all the sweet poontang in those days, i reckon our boy just ramped it up 1000%.
as, ya know, he does.
He needs the danger , the edge back ! he still can if he wanted or if someone could tell him , check 1:48 , we need that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQQSpsl0Xk
wow...next thing will be this thread here turning into a discussion about dave's hair...
I've seen better threads than this going into the dump after five posts...
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So, now we need somebody to put the letter together, formulate it really well. And then we need someone to deliver it. A carrier fan.
Of course he is different now..some 30+ years later. I would hope I have not remained the same some 30 years later. Sure I love watching the Dave from back then, but that was then..he was a kid, physically fit in proportion to his body at that time. He may not prance around the stage the same way he used to. He may even prance around differently 10 years from now...You have in your head the Dave of the 70 and 80's and that is not who is on the stage anymore. Probably if he feels like letting loose he would.
I think you need to go to a show personally and then reevaluate your original post to some degree. It's been said before but it is different watching on youtubes, etc than being in the audience especially close up. I agree it is.
Personally, I never got to a show in the early 80's. I'm certainly not complaining about the shows I am seeing now with Dave.
I hope you are joking about that letter
This is the kind of stuff we'd find in the Tiger Beat or Teen Beat Magazines that would have the pull out that you could hang in your locker right..lol? Those days. OR was this the larger kind that you would go to the poster store or 'record store' to find one of these and be so proud when you brought it home...
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Yeah, but why change when it's working. Don't fix it if it isn't broken. And what I am talking about is totally age-unrelated. Yeah, I was joking about the letter. But it would be nice if he was aware that couple of us here really, really liked what he had going on back then.
We all liked it...but maybe that is not Dave anymore. It is just not the person he is. It may work for you (or me) but as an artist it just does not work for him. Some of the things I've done when I was younger I would not do now...
Maybe. But maybe he thinks we don't want him being like he was in the 80-ies. One can only speculate. But if he had all the facts, and was aware of that whatever he did then was very apriciated maybe he'd feel revealed that he can be himself again. Or maybe this is what he always was like. Who knows. Maybe, maybe.. Just speculating.
But he should have all the facts and know what a part of us thinks and then decide for himself what he wants to do.
I don't know, when I saw him on the Diamond Dave tour he was trying to be the old Dave, and it was stupid. Long bleach blonde hair that looked absolutely ridiculous. He was still doing the "jack off the JD", which made him look like a really creepy dirty old man. In the review I posted at DDLR.com I said that Dave was a diamond in the rough.
I think he's still sexy, just not in that bad boy way that women go for when they're young. As for his "goofy" smile...I LOVE it!!! It may LOOK slightly goofy, but it shines with pure happiness. Nothing sexier than a person in their element...
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