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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post
    I have seen some of the clips from the latest tour, and I can't help but feeling that there is something missing.

    I am NOT talking about musical part of it. No, no, I am more then happy with that.
    I am talking about one small part of Daves stage performance. Don't get me wrong and jump to conclusions before reading the whole post.
    Dave was one of the things that really made VH stand out among the ocean of bands.

    Back in the 80-ies it was oozing sex, those moves, flirtation, when I watch those old videos I just feel like I wanna swallow him whole (not in a bath-salt kind of way)

    Nowdays it's still amazing and great and correctly done, even miles above correct, and he is funny and witty as always, but I am missing the uuummm-factor.

    So, I would like for him to make that happend again. I don't know how it's done, or what it really is, but whatever he was doing back then, just repeat it.
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    Hi Envy , i got exactly what you are talking about , you can undertsand get it and feel it
    but most of the fans do not . Maybe not even Dave.

    I'm not sure how much of a die hard fan you are but Dave started losing it around 1994.

    What i'm talking and what's lacking it's called attitude. He does not have it anymore.

    Same thing happened to Gene Simmons ,it has nothing to do with age. It has nothing to do with
    physical abilities. It's about playing the part.

    Gene was the Demon , it was frightening, look at 1975-82 videos , he was a madman
    the looks the moves the in-your-face attitude was gone once he took off the make up.
    I was happy in 1996 when the reunion tour started , i thought wow the Demon will be back !!!
    I was wrong ! Demon never came back ! It was Gene Simmons with make up now 1996-2012.
    He moves exactly like his non-make up persona,he forgot all the crazy moves and wild mannerisms
    from the Demon !

    Same thing with Dave. around 1994 he cut his hair and he got involved in the mambo slammers thing.
    If you look for 1994 shows you'll see him dancing and acting totally different ! Something happened
    around 1993-94. Even his voice changed a lot !!!

    He tried to bring back some of the old Dave around 2002 for the Sam and Dave tour but he focused
    more on the looks and kicks more than the attitude.

    In the 70-80's he was aggresive, he smiled a lot but not always ...now he looks goofy with the
    permanent smile and stupid dancing. In the 80's he played the part of the kickass wild surfer guy
    that could kick your ass anytime, he acted serious , that's what's missing , the agressive and seriousness
    and stop the clown act it was OK for the 1985-86 Videos , now it's too late but he needs to get serious.
    Same thing he is doing when he sings Dance the night away now with the higher register, he thinks
    he is improving it but he is not !!! I wish somebody could tell him to get serious and act like a badass
    Dave instead of the funny clown that he is portraying nowadays.

    And i know what i'm talking about ! Look at the USFestival videos, he was SERIOUS.He meant DANGER
    with a little bit of Vaudeville ...Now it's 99.9% Vaudeville !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momshell View Post
    I don't care what any of you say, but that pic screams FLAMING HOMO !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I don't care what any of you say, but that pic screams FLAMING HOMO !!
    What part ?!

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    Every single detail...

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    That poster should be in 3D ! Momshells apartment number !

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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post
    I don't care if he jumps off of the drum, or does a split. I am talking about the attitude, the gestures, manner, facial expressions. He used to act like a sex god, now he remindes me of a kid. Sort of, I don't know... This subject is really hard to define. It's just a feeling I guess...

    I think you just mean he is missing that dash of cock-sure machismo that many young men have. Dave was the epitome of that & what every guy tried to emulate. But Daves been there, had her. He doesn't feel the need to be like that anymore. Just outgrown it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 78/84 guy View Post
    That poster should be in 3D ! Momshells apartment number !
    Been there done that! I do, however, have a signed copy of Dave's 'The Best' with him in his chaps next to my side of the bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I don't care what any of you say, but that pic screams FLAMING HOMO !!
    Not to me it doesn't!

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    IMG_0136.jpgIMG_0138.jpg
    This is Dave in '07 - just 4 1/2 years ago - sexy as hell! No way he couldn't be that guy if he wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I don't care what any of you say, but that pic screams FLAMING HOMO !!
    Hmmm, let me thing about the last drag show I attended....

    Boa, those long glove sleeve things, hoop ear-rings...hmmm...

    Although who he sleeps with makes no difference to me, and Momshell can still fantasize .

    Perhaps Dave "dig[s] both and [he] don't care which"
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    Hmmm...

    You may be right...

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    Yeah, I must admit the flowery sleeves/gloves/whatever they are do look just a little bit gay. But it was the 80s......
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Yeah, I must admit the flowery sleeves/gloves/whatever they are do look just a little bit gay. But it was the 80s......
    oh yeah, the 80's...we had Miami Vice in Miami, Florida now known as Spain...lol
    Now who`s that babe with the fab-u-lous shad-ow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calderone View Post
    Hi Envy , i got exactly what you are talking about , you can undertsand get it and feel it
    but most of the fans do not . Maybe not even Dave.

    I'm not sure how much of a die hard fan you are but Dave started losing it around 1994.

    What i'm talking and what's lacking it's called attitude. He does not have it anymore.

    Same thing happened to Gene Simmons ,it has nothing to do with age. It has nothing to do with
    physical abilities. It's about playing the part.

    Gene was the Demon , it was frightening, look at 1975-82 videos , he was a madman
    the looks the moves the in-your-face attitude was gone once he took off the make up.
    I was happy in 1996 when the reunion tour started , i thought wow the Demon will be back !!!
    I was wrong ! Demon never came back ! It was Gene Simmons with make up now 1996-2012.
    He moves exactly like his non-make up persona,he forgot all the crazy moves and wild mannerisms
    from the Demon !

    Same thing with Dave. around 1994 he cut his hair and he got involved in the mambo slammers thing.
    If you look for 1994 shows you'll see him dancing and acting totally different ! Something happened
    around 1993-94. Even his voice changed a lot !!!

    He tried to bring back some of the old Dave around 2002 for the Sam and Dave tour but he focused
    more on the looks and kicks more than the attitude.

    In the 70-80's he was aggresive, he smiled a lot but not always ...now he looks goofy with the
    permanent smile and stupid dancing. In the 80's he played the part of the kickass wild surfer guy
    that could kick your ass anytime, he acted serious , that's what's missing , the agressive and seriousness
    and stop the clown act it was OK for the 1985-86 Videos , now it's too late but he needs to get serious.
    Same thing he is doing when he sings Dance the night away now with the higher register, he thinks
    he is improving it but he is not !!! I wish somebody could tell him to get serious and act like a badass
    Dave instead of the funny clown that he is portraying nowadays.

    And i know what i'm talking about ! Look at the USFestival videos, he was SERIOUS.He meant DANGER
    with a little bit of Vaudeville ...Now it's 99.9% Vaudeville !
    Man, you GOT IT!!! Thats exactly what I'm talking about!!! He was all badass, sexy and serious. And now he's goofy. And it has nothing to do with age.

    And you are absolutely right, everybody doesn't get it. Either you feel it, or you don't. I just hope Dave feels it, and brings it back. And stops smiling all the fucking time. And gets back to his serious "I hate you but I wanna fuck you"-face.
    Last edited by envy_me; 07-01-2012 at 04:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I don't care what any of you say, but that pic screams FLAMING HOMO !!
    I don't think he is gay. But I could bet my life on that he is bi-sexual. I have always suspected, but when I saw the interview he did with MTVs Mark Goodman, in the 80-ies, I knew...It looked like Dave wanted to eat the guy up, you could tell from his body language that there was something there from Daves side. Goodman didn't respond. At least not in front of camera.
    Last edited by envy_me; 07-01-2012 at 03:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Hmmm, let me thing about the last drag show I attended....

    Boa, those long glove sleeve things, hoop ear-rings...hmmm...

    Although who he sleeps with makes no difference to me, and Momshell can still fantasize .

    Perhaps Dave "dig[s] both and [he] don't care which"
    Thats my guess.

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    wot FORD said. the slightly effeminate men got all the sweet poontang in those days, i reckon our boy just ramped it up 1000%.

    as, ya know, he does.

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    He needs the danger , the edge back ! he still can if he wanted or if someone could tell him , check 1:48 , we need that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQQSpsl0Xk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calderone View Post
    He needs the danger , the edge back ! he still can if he wanted or if someone could tell him , check 1:48 , we need that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQQSpsl0Xk
    We should write an open letter. A manifesto. And send it to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post
    I KNOW!! But I want sexy feeling
    Buy a vibrator.
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    wow...next thing will be this thread here turning into a discussion about dave's hair...

    I've seen better threads than this going into the dump after five posts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidLeeNatra View Post
    wow...next thing will be this thread here turning into a discussion about dave's hair...

    I've seen better threads than this going into the dump after five posts...
    This thread is about the bands/Daves stage act. If you don't like it, go and read a thread you like.

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    That's because the douchebags who pose as mods don't like my sense of humor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calderone View Post
    He needs the danger , the edge back !
    The problem is Dave used to go to the Atomic Pukes show and he saw Raaaaalph Semen up there acting like the poofta clown that he is and Dave thought he was imitating his old act...



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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post
    This thread is about the bands/Daves stage act. If you don't like it, go and read a thread you like.
    did you send the nude pics already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    That's because the douchebags who pose as mods don't like my sense of humor...
    no one here likes it...that's why I like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Em' Up! View Post
    Okay, so I guess I must be the only female that has never had any kind of "attraction" to Dave besides musically. Sorry ladies...I absolutely LOVE the man's music, vocals, etc, but as far as finding him "attractive", never happened to me. I think the thing I found most attractive about him was watching the videos about the lyrics of the new songs, and realizing what an intellectual man he is. Guess I just never looked at him as "eye candy".
    You are probably not the only woman to feel that way... Heck you just differentiated yourself from about 60% of the men on this site!!
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    So, now we need somebody to put the letter together, formulate it really well. And then we need someone to deliver it. A carrier fan.

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    Of course he is different now..some 30+ years later. I would hope I have not remained the same some 30 years later. Sure I love watching the Dave from back then, but that was then..he was a kid, physically fit in proportion to his body at that time. He may not prance around the stage the same way he used to. He may even prance around differently 10 years from now...You have in your head the Dave of the 70 and 80's and that is not who is on the stage anymore. Probably if he feels like letting loose he would.

    I think you need to go to a show personally and then reevaluate your original post to some degree. It's been said before but it is different watching on youtubes, etc than being in the audience especially close up. I agree it is.

    Personally, I never got to a show in the early 80's. I'm certainly not complaining about the shows I am seeing now with Dave.

    I hope you are joking about that letter

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    This is the kind of stuff we'd find in the Tiger Beat or Teen Beat Magazines that would have the pull out that you could hang in your locker right..lol? Those days. OR was this the larger kind that you would go to the poster store or 'record store' to find one of these and be so proud when you brought it home...

    love it

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    Found this poster in my mom's basement last weekend. I must have kissed this poster a million times a day as an adolescent. Look at that body!! Face is gorgeous to me as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zempi View Post
    Of course he is different now..some 30+ years later. I would hope I have not remained the same some 30 years later. Sure I love watching the Dave from back then, but that was then..he was a kid, physically fit in proportion to his body at that time. He may not prance around the stage the same way he used to. He may even prance around differently 10 years from now...You have in your head the Dave of the 70 and 80's and that is not who is on the stage anymore. Probably if he feels like letting loose he would.

    I think you need to go to a show personally and then reevaluate your original post to some degree. It's been said before but it is different watching on youtubes, etc than being in the audience especially close up. I agree it is.

    Personally, I never got to a show in the early 80's. I'm certainly not complaining about the shows I am seeing now with Dave.

    I hope you are joking about that letter
    Yeah, but why change when it's working. Don't fix it if it isn't broken. And what I am talking about is totally age-unrelated. Yeah, I was joking about the letter. But it would be nice if he was aware that couple of us here really, really liked what he had going on back then.

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    We all liked it...but maybe that is not Dave anymore. It is just not the person he is. It may work for you (or me) but as an artist it just does not work for him. Some of the things I've done when I was younger I would not do now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Heck you just differentiated yourself from about 60% of the men on this site!!
    LMAO !!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zempi View Post
    We all liked it...but maybe that is not Dave anymore. It is just not the person he is. It may work for you (or me) but as an artist it just does not work for him. Some of the things I've done when I was younger I would not do now...
    Maybe. But maybe he thinks we don't want him being like he was in the 80-ies. One can only speculate. But if he had all the facts, and was aware of that whatever he did then was very apriciated maybe he'd feel revealed that he can be himself again. Or maybe this is what he always was like. Who knows. Maybe, maybe.. Just speculating.

    But he should have all the facts and know what a part of us thinks and then decide for himself what he wants to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post
    Maybe. But maybe he thinks we don't want him being like he was in the 80-ies. One can only speculate. But if he had all the facts, and was aware of that whatever he did then was very apriciated maybe he'd feel revealed that he can be himself again. Or maybe this is what he always was like. Who knows. Maybe, maybe.. Just speculating.

    But he should have all the facts and know what a part of us thinks and then decide for himself what he wants to do.
    I don't know, when I saw him on the Diamond Dave tour he was trying to be the old Dave, and it was stupid. Long bleach blonde hair that looked absolutely ridiculous. He was still doing the "jack off the JD", which made him look like a really creepy dirty old man. In the review I posted at DDLR.com I said that Dave was a diamond in the rough.

    I think he's still sexy, just not in that bad boy way that women go for when they're young. As for his "goofy" smile...I LOVE it!!! It may LOOK slightly goofy, but it shines with pure happiness. Nothing sexier than a person in their element...

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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post
    And stops smiling all the fucking time. And gets back to his serious "I hate you but I wanna fuck you"-face.
    It´s nothing wrong with Dave smiling, even in an interview back in1985, he declared that "I sell smiles for a living"

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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post
    I don't think he is gay. But I could bet my life on that he is bi-sexual. I have always suspected, but when I saw the interview he did with MTVs Mark Goodman, in the 80-ies, I knew...It looked like Dave wanted to eat the guy up, you could tell from his body language that there was something there from Daves side. Goodman didn't respond. At least not in front of camera.
    Dave was drunk and probably thought he was talking to Princess Stephanie which was an easy mistake given Goodman's broad shoulder

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