Luckily not us... he was great with us...Originally Posted by envy_me
But bad soundmen, roadies, club owners, band members, etc... he would not hesitate to Unleash The Fookin' Fury!!!
We had a blast with him!!!
\m/ \m/
Luckily not us... he was great with us...
But bad soundmen, roadies, club owners, band members, etc... he would not hesitate to Unleash The Fookin' Fury!!!
We had a blast with him!!!
\m/ \m/
NEW Wicked Maraya coming in 2015!!!
'Lifetime In Hell' (unreleased 1991) and 2 NEW songs!!!
"A little more volume in the headphones please..."
To comment on the original topic thought... I also think Dave has lost a bit of the "Cool Factor" ... not sure why... of course, still am happy that we have VH and DLR in 2012... but I also feel he has transformed into something less than the Rock God he is...
This vid from last tour shows that "Attitude... and strong voice"
http://youtu.be/VNL8GPZwKZE
You see... I am very good at picking up on things :-) I told you there's something missing.
The heart is on the left. The blood is red.
Observing over the years, it looks like fans break down into 3 groups: those 45+, the original fans (you lucky bastards!), who got to experience VH in all their glory while in their teens and 20s and are probably CVH fans first and DLR fans second ; then you have those about 37-45 (my group) who came in around DD and saw the tail end of VH, the break-up and followed Dave's solo career, who are probably DLR fans first and CVH fans second.
Then there are the rest who came on board say post 1996. I'm curious a bit about what drew this group (apart from the music, which is obvious). What are your expectations when seeing or listening to VH now? Are you focused on CVH? Are you even familiar with solo Dave, apart from maybe EEAS which most naturally flows from 1984? How does the whole Sammy, etc. history impact you emotionally? Does you even understand the context of a lot of the anger here towards him/them?
From the comments above, it just looks like those of us who have been around for awhile and saw DLR at the height of his powers are probably more forgiving of his/their present weaknesses. We don't expect SuperDave and I think that if most of us are honest (like Angel somewhere above), we don't even really want that because we too are older and have sort of been there, done that.
Just curious about the different viewpoints.
The attitude here is what makes this the Roth Army. We had these attitudes from day 1, because we are DLR and DLR era VH fans. We don't censor ourselves, and we don't censor each other. We do fuck with each other though! Van Halen and DLR were never cookie cutter, neither are we here. You might not be sure the attitude here is for you, but I bet if you visit some of the other band fan sites, and deal with their mundane boring censored banter, you will find you appreciate the attitude here much more than you think you do.
I don't actually mind attitude as much as profanities. If you're gonna have an attitude, you also need some style and finesse. Anybody can curse and call people names, that's not hard. And as I said it's far from everybody that is like that.
And it might be that when I came here I was struck the harder then others. I don't know why. Maybe I came right out and said that I don't like the Van Halen sisters.
But after all this is a DLR site, I sought out that specificlly. I didn't wanna go to a VH-site, I still don't. If VH splits now, I'd still like Dave.
Last edited by envy_me; 07-06-2012 at 08:03 AM.
That is really interesting question. I am one of those that recently started to listen to VH. I have to think about if for a while, and then I'll get back to you.
Hope other people respond too, cause it would be interesting to see.
Sug min kuk
Alright Ludwigshafen, put your hands together for the one, the only.................Love Handle Man!
The dude is an amazing player....but I don't know.....everything seems to be me me me with that dude. I know there are plenty of guitar guys out there who love guys like yngwie, vai, satriani....etc....but to me that stuff is boring as shit. Write a killer tune or 10 with a great band/lead singer. It's about great tunes....imo anyway. Are there THAT many people who can go sit through an entire show of one 10 minute overblown guitar solo after another?
I could not agree more. I give props to Steve Vai, but I saw him about ten years ago, and was totally ready to walk out by the fifth song. He had two other guys on stage with him playing exactly as he did at times. Can you say overkill? You're right. Rock and Roll is best served with a lead singer fronting a great band. Instrumentals here and there are ok, but the perpetual soloing puts my head on the pillow.
See...DLR Bridge clearly gets it......apparently I have run out of thanks DLR....no longer have the option of thanking someone's post for some strange reason otherwise I would have easily slapped a thank you on what you just wrote.
Nej, tack.Sug min kuk
I wouldn't even want Ed to make a self indulgent solo album. In fact, I'd prefer he ditch the 10 minute solo, play the solo lead ins as they were on the albums. Then we could probably get 3 more songs we aren't getting now!
You're not going to be long for this place if you mind profanities.....
Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth
You'd better slicka fittan ren first...Sug min kuk
Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?
It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...
Agree. Break the large solo up and slam those amazing flourishes all over the set like toasting glasses in the fire place.
Omg, where do you guys find all these phrases?
I was thinking about my 11-year old who has become a fan of the 1984-era VH/EEAS/Picasso Bros. stuff. After listening to her repeated questions and comments: Why does he keep his hair short? Why doesn't he do splits anymore, etc. etc., it occurred to me that her VH experience is VH c. 1984. In her mind, DLR is 30 years old, dressed in spandex and shoving his crotch in the camera. In part it is becuz she is a kid and lacks perspective, but it's also what she can relate to (the cartoonishness of 1984/86), and that era is what is the VH "present" for her.
So I'm wondering what is the VH experience for those who did not witness the evolution of the band/DLR solo? I imagine some came in thru older relatives or friends, others becuz they are guitar players and naturally drifted towards studying EVH, and others maybe thru classic rock radio or Jump (which is still played often as background music on soccer wrap-up shows here in Italy). And how you come at it colors your perspective and expectations.
Just throwing out ideas.
Maybe you should pen a book...
Van Halen and Child Development
And the Cradle Will Rock...
And the Obese, Autistic, ADHD Cradle Will Rock...
It's those damn dogs... previously Diamond Dave's non-musical adventures were something exotic, dangerous and off-beat which played to the mystique of the Rock God or Toastmaster General™... Jungle safaris, mountain climbing, flying helicopters, etc... All cool...
Now... Carhartt overalls... drivin an old Chevy pickemup truck, dogs in the back and lookin for sheep to chase... Hell, he blends in more with my hillbilly neighbors in Arkansas minus the fine pressed camo suit for Sunday church socials. This ain't southern California beach bum Dave... he's now aligned his public persona with Larry the Fuckin Cable Guy!!! Only in America... Git er done...
What cements this deeper is Dave's Ice Cream Man story hour on tour... Home videos with the kids. You know the type... empty-nesters or middle aged people with no kids and they treat their dogs better than most humans. They break out the pictures and home movies... gushing about Foofy ad nausium and how precious he/she/it is... gag...
It ranks right up there in the uncool factor like Von Halen driving around the slums of Detroit in his homo beach buggy!!!
"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
If a crackhead crashes a homo beach buggy in Detroit does it make a sound ??
the crackhead, the buggy or the city?If a crackhead crashes a homo beach buggy in Detroit does it make a sound ??
Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!
Better yet, what is a homo beach buggy and why drive one in Detroit while smoking crack? You could simply take in a Tigers' game and get pretty much the same result.
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”― Stephen Hawking
I may not be fluent in Swedish, but I know what to say for my amusement.
Did you understand "nej tack"I may not be fluent in Swedish, but I know what to say for my amusement.thats a frase you should learn
I LOVED Steve Vai
Last edited by envy_me; 07-06-2012 at 01:54 PM.
You're from Italy??? I LOVE Italy!! The language, the food, the sea, the people, the music, movies, everything!!! One of my favorite artist of all time is Fabrizio de Andre. I have gone to classes trying to learn Italian, but I won't be able to continue now cause of the work.
But I'm gonna work on it at alone
It's not a tax, it's a penalty only deadbeats like you will end up paying...
Don't get me wrong, he IS great, but the over indulgence aspect ruins it. Solo solo solo solo solo solo solo solo..... we get it! You can play! Sheesh!I LOVED Steve Vai
Lol, and also there are more expencive things you can do with the money, like starting a war or two...It's not a tax, it's a penalty only deadbeats like you will end up paying...
Last edited by envy_me; 07-06-2012 at 02:10 PM.
He IS great...but IMO most of the time he's playihng over the average (non-guitarist) listener's head...even more so than Yngwie. EVH shreds and writes killer, hook-laden riffs. Most other shred guys never get the 2nd part down...
True. Pablo Gilberto on the other hand, can tear shit up and be a poppy goof at the same time. His solo CDs with him singing are actually quite entertaining. I could never stand Eric Martin's voice.He IS great...but IMO most of the time he's playihng over the average (non-guitarist) listener's head...even more so than Yngwie. EVH shreds and writes killer, hook-laden riffs. Most other shred guys never get the 2nd part down...
Yep, Pablo is much more accessible. I also remember Billy Sheehan saying one of the coolest things about jamming with Paul is you can call out pretty much ANY rock staple and he knows it - you couldn't yell out "Houses of the Holy!" at Vai and expect him to whip it out. But Gilbert cut his teeth like most of us did in cover bands, unlike Vai and Yngwie - so he gets it.
It's familiar to me, although I have be aware of vocal tones... It may also mean "try harder".Did you understand "nej tack"
I actually don't have a problem with just solos, only guitar. I like it actually.
HahaIt's familiar to me, although I have be aware of vocal tones... It may also mean "try harder".
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