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    Mars Mission's Fate Rests on Landing

    Mars Mission's Fate Rests on Landing

    August 5, 2012 1:00 pm

    By KENNETH CHANG / The New York Times

    PASADENA, Calif. -- The future of NASA's exploration of Mars now comes down to a struggle between gravity and a half-million lines of computer code.

    Currently snug in an interplanetary spacecraft, the plutonium-powered rover called Curiosity will end its eight-and-a-half-month journey from Earth on Sunday, plowing into the Martian atmosphere at 13,000 miles per hour in a burst of fire.

    When that happens, control over the $2.5 billion mission will transfer to the onboard computer, which must slow the car-sized Curiosity and execute a series of intricate maneuvers to lower it to the ground.

    Because of a 14-minute communications gap between the two planets, scientists on Earth will be mere spectators. Landing was scheduled to occur at 10:31 p.m. Sunday here in Pasadena, though officials warned that confirmation of a successful touchdown could take several hours or even days.

    Failure could set back American-led Mars explorations for years.
    Because of tightening budgets, NASA has already pulled out of collaborations with the European Space Agency planned for 2016 and 2018. The space agency is now contemplating what alternative missions it can fly on its own to Mars in 2018 -- but nothing nearly as ambitious or expensive as Curiosity.

    If Curiosity fails, NASA would have to start over.

    Doug McCuistion, the Mars exploration program director, said NASA would persist as it had following earlier Mars failures. After the loss of two Mars spacecraft in 1999, NASA then built and landed two highly successful rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, in 2004.

    "We'll pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off," Mr. McCuistion said at a news conference on Saturday.

    "This will not be the end."

    At landing time, two NASA craft, the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and Mars Odyssey, will be passing close overhead, with Odyssey relaying transmissions to Earth.
    But the landing could pass without word from Curiosity.

    "It doesn't necessarily mean something bad has happened," said Richard Cook, the deputy project manager.

    If the landing succeeds, the first black-and-white photographs could be beamed back on Monday.
    Over the first week, Curiosity is to deploy its main antenna, raise a mast containing cameras, a rock-vaporizing laser and other instruments, and take its first 360-degree panorama shot of its surroundings.

    NASA will spend the first month checking out Curiosity. Mr. Cook said the first drive could occur early next month. The rover would not scoop its first sample of Martian soil until mid-September at the earliest, and the first drilling into rock would occur in October or November, he said.

    Michael Schwirtz contributed reporting from New York.

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    Dear NASA,

    Send robots there is nothing there.
    To risky for humans unless you can cut the journey to two weeks.


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    Funny, all the press I am seeing about this takes great pains to point out there is no actual evidence of life on Mars.

    NASA has taken great pains to hide a LOT of stuff from the public about the Moon and Mars.

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    I miss the space race. We hardly have a space program now. The bankers and their political cronies are robbing everything. We should pass a law that bankers should get a lashing for every dollar they have stollen. That would make them think twice before stealing anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I miss the space race. We hardly have a space program now. The bankers and their political cronies are robbing everything. We should pass a law that bankers should get a lashing for every dollar they have stollen. That would make them think twice before stealing anything.
    Well, if you want to get techincal. Back in the 50s and 60s, people predicted that by the 2000s, new technology would sprout in travel, why do you think sci-fi movies from that period had flying cars and the sort? Instead, technology REALLY sprouted in communication and personal electronics. Cell phones are smaller than ever, they do much more that call people, TV sets are virtually 2D now, Video Games are now basically playable movies....

    Somehow I think the reason why we don't have a space race is because of all the technological advances in communication as opposed to travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock69 View Post
    Funny, all the press I am seeing about this takes great pains to point out there is no actual evidence of life on Mars.

    NASA has taken great pains to hide a LOT of stuff from the public about the Moon and Mars.
    Really?

    I get the impression it's the exact opposite.

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    This mission seems like a scary gamble.

    $2.5 billion and to get a couple of tons to land unmanned seems ridiculously complicated and risky.

    There are all sorts of stages trying to get the thing safely from 13000 mph to 1.5 mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This mission seems like a scary gamble.

    $2.5 billion and to get a couple of tons to land unmanned seems ridiculously complicated and risky.

    There are all sorts of stages trying to get the thing safely from 13000 mph to 1.5 mph.

    Using retro-rockets and a winch to lower the rover to the surface seems overly complicated and more opportunity for failures.

    Why not deploy a huge balloon around 6 miles altitude to allow a slow and safe landing?

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    Seems nuts to me, hope it works.

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    That's gonna be the biggest 7-minute white-knuckle session at NASA headquarters in recent memory....hope it works, too~!

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    Or you could just land a damn lunar module and have an unmanned vehicle pop out a hatch with explosive bolts, then roll down a ramp. How hard is that?

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    Speaking of the future, WHERE'S MY FUCKIN' HOVERBOARD?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fraroc View Post
    Well, if you want to get techincal. Back in the 50s and 60s, people predicted that by the 2000s, new technology would sprout in travel, why do you think sci-fi movies from that period had flying cars and the sort? Instead, technology REALLY sprouted in communication and personal electronics. Cell phones are smaller than ever, they do much more that call people, TV sets are virtually 2D now, Video Games are now basically playable movies....

    Somehow I think the reason why we don't have a space race is because of all the technological advances in communication as opposed to travel.
    Yeah but I'm flying to Singapore in a few days. I'm going to be spending around 15 hours on an airplane. It's 2012. I sould be able to beam there.

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    NASA got the whole "feet vs. meters" thing worked out first, right?



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    So cool. Touchdown, transmitting images...kick ass.

    You asked for pics from my trip. Here you go! My 1st look (of many to come) of my new home... MARS! #MSL twitter.com/MarsCuriosity/…— Curiosity Rover (@MarsCuriosity) August 6, 2012

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    NASA has landed on Mars!!!....they've already sent back images of a Starbucks [2 actually], a Guitar Center, and a Chick-Fil-a Franchise.....nope, no intelligent life there, either.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BITEYOASS View Post
    Speaking of the future, WHERE'S MY FUCKIN' HOVERBOARD?!?!
    Back to the Future II was set in 2015, you need to be patient just another few years to go.

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    That's the first pictures back now...




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    First real pic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    NASA has landed on Mars!!!....they've already sent back images of a Starbucks [2 actually], a Guitar Center, and a Chick-Fil-a Franchise.....nope, no intelligent life there, either.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    What? No sailors fighting in the dance halls??









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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    That's the first pictures back now...



    Maybe what did in the space program is we finally got far enough to take pictures of the other planets real estate and saw it was real shit and lost all incentive to move to those places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarathecarrot View Post
    Dear NASA,

    Send robots there is nothing there.
    To risky for humans unless you can cut the journey to two weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Really?

    I get the impression it's the exact opposite.
    Agree. Seems like they've been hinting at life on Mars for awhile now.
    My karma just ran over your dogma.

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    Maybe I'm really off base with this but really? we are still spending billions upon billions through NASA for nothing? Exactly what has this great space exploration given us in the last 60 years? What disease did we find a cure for in space? Ok, great....we can watch the world, and use satellites for TV, cell phones and computers. Doesn't anyone think the money we spend on the space program could probably help us earthlings? Am I missing something? Life on Mars? Really? We won't concentrate on not fucking up our current planet but we'll explore the possibilities for life on Mars.....WTF?

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    If when you say 'we' you mean the US then you would be insane not to. The space program makes up 0.5% of federal spending.



    A huge part of the US competitive technological advantage in trade has come from the space program.

    For every dollar spent the estimates back are between $15 and $80 for each $1 put in depending on who you listen to.

    You have two choices. You can either compete with Indians and Chinese on price or on technology. Have a look at how much the average Chinese or Indian worker makes each month and then make your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    If when you say 'we' you mean the US then you would be insane not to. The space program makes up 0.5% of federal spending.

    A huge part of the US competitive technological advantage in trade has come from the space program.

    For every dollar spent the estimates back are between $15 and $80 for each $1 put in depending on who you listen to.

    You have two choices. You can either compete with Indians and Chinese on price or on technology. Have a look at how much the average Chinese or Indian worker makes each month and then make your choice.
    I have always thought the space program in any shape or form was our best money spent, it is the same to me as ancient mariners voyaging out to uncharted seas and lands unknown..nothing more than that it is a noble cause.

    I do however think if we wait we will be able to develop better technology thru time and not thru chance experiment involving humans.

    Our robot tech is just the same or better suited than human, and if it is all about claiming the land in the name of SPAIN!!! or America!!! and you cannot claim the mineral rights without a human stepping foot and planting a flag on it, it still isn't worth the waste of life that may occur 6 months one way to Mars.

    The only people conditioned for that are in solitary on Rikers Island.

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    I used to have fun at the NASA site driving one of the rovers around it is, "virtual like" it is a huge TIFF or some image and you actually can drive around the areas recorded by the rovers cameras, free handed... like, lets, roll over and look at that rock over there, pretty cool.

    Don't know if it still set up..?

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    Mars doesn't exist.

    It's a CIA ploy to distract us from the TRUTH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Mars doesn't exist.

    It's a CIA ploy to distract us from the TRUTH.

    The TRUTH!



    This landing story is so scripted it's ridiculous...and they already know it's name! We're supposed to believe it did ALL that in 7 minutes, and now is transmitting "pictures" of the landing site??

    Some of you are SO GULIBLE it's pathetic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthcoming View Post
    Maybe I'm really off base with this but really? we are still spending billions upon billions through NASA for nothing? Exactly what has this great space exploration given us in the last 60 years? What disease did we find a cure for in space? Ok, great....we can watch the world, and use satellites for TV, cell phones and computers. Doesn't anyone think the money we spend on the space program could probably help us earthlings? Am I missing something? Life on Mars? Really? We won't concentrate on not fucking up our current planet but we'll explore the possibilities for life on Mars.....WTF?
    I think you missed a few things...

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    I wish this new rover's wires would get crossed and all it would transmit are pictures from the Muff thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I think you missed a few things...

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    Is that love rocket lube?

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    Is that love rocket lube?
    It certainly is! Astroglide - NASA developed and approved for those nights when your girlfriend's cooch is as dry as the surface of Mars...

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    Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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