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    In the quest for other life in the universe the better place to send robots would be Jupiter's moons Ganymede & Europa. Both have oxygen atmospheres and known water content.
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    If there is life on Mars, can we hook them up with the dating sites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    If there is life on Mars, can we hook them up with the dating sites?
    It's probably microbial, like many of the people you find on dating sites here...
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    Dear Religion, While you were debating what chicken sandwiches were okay to eat, I just landed on Mars. Sincerely, Your Pal Science— Mike Huddleston (@MKHDDLSTN) August 6, 2012
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    England hosts the Olympics........

    So we land on Mars.



    America, FUCK YEAH
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    England hosts the Olympics........

    So we land on Mars.



    America, FUCK YEAH
    U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!!
    ....With a little help from your friends

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/st...echnology.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    ....With a little help from your friends

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/st...echnology.html
    Yeah, but Nickleback negates any help you provided.



    Sorry, eh.

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    Been reading a book the last couple of weeks on the history of anti-gravity research.

    Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion by Paul A. Laviolette, Ph.D.

    By 1955, it had been discovered how to travel at 85% of the speed of light by applying 310 volts at a few milliamps to a saucer-shaped object with a pair of electrodes......

    By 1957 ALL the major aerospace corporations were publicizing how they were getting involved in anti-grav research, saying we would have aircraft that could fly at 10,000 mph within a decade or so....then about 1959 they suddenly all went silent, and everything became heavily classified.....

    I look at this Mars lander stuff as a smokescreen....

    I mean, it is all well and good to keep the public interest going on about space, etc.

    But truth be told, the former head of Lockheed Skunkworks said in an interview in the late 90s that they already had interplanetary travel capabilities....as in "Star Wars, Star Trek...been there, done that...."

    So to me this is all a dog and pony show. Simply a way for scientists who are not in the loop to do some low-level research that only has value for them because they do not know anything about advanced technology, as they don't have high enough security clearances.

    No, not needing to be fitted for a tin-foil hat. Just going by what factual information on that subject is publicly available.

    There was a show on cable this evening about the landing. They detailed all of the Mars probes since the 70s....including the ones that failed.....

    Glad this one succeeded in landing. It will keep Congressional budgets for NASA from being slashed....at least it will keep them from being slashed too much....
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    What products have been created by NASA and space exploration?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensible Shoes View Post
    If there is life on Mars, can we hook them up with the dating sites?
    Actually that's an experiment in the making... seeing if the microbes and bacteria we sent to Mars will mate with what's there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthcoming View Post
    Apparently I'm still missing something. All of these items were created because we send human beings into space? These technologies were captured from the Moon and Mars? Or were they created here on planet Earth. I just don't understand how landing on Mars is supposed to be this tremendous benefit to all mankind. I'm not saying Nasa is useless....just wondering what landing on other planets is supposed to do for anyone or anything other than our country's ego.
    That was exactly the kind of question people asked when the Large Hadron Collider was being planned. Some people are still asking it without realizing that it led directly to the World Wide Web.

    The act of exploration leads to knowledge and benefits. You don't always know where you are going or what you are going to get when you take the first step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The act of exploration leads to knowledge and benefits. You don't always know where you are going or what you are going to get when you take the first step.
    When I was a kid, this was one of the finest discoveries NASA ever made.


    These things were badassed as well...


    Particularly when you were playing with this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthcoming View Post
    Apparently I'm still missing something. All of these items were created because we send human beings into space? These technologies were captured from the Moon and Mars? Or were they created here on planet Earth. I just don't understand how landing on Mars is supposed to be this tremendous benefit to all mankind. I'm not saying Nasa is useless....just wondering what landing on other planets is supposed to do for anyone or anything other than our country's ego.
    Well let's take a look at some of the more simple and easily applied benefits from that list. Look at all of the fire fighting technologies that enable firefighters to safely fight fires and save lives. That helps a lot of people... right?

    Well... space is a nasty place. Once outside of our atmosphere... radiation, wide temperature ranges both cold and hot... require protective clothing. In other words space suits. Then there's the whole breathing thing... the technology developed to safely put a human in space and been adapted to humans safely fighting fires... thus benefiting in saved lives. That's a good thing... right?

    Now no, these technologies were not captured from the moon and Mars... both of those are planet type things that do not produce technologies. All of this wonderful stuff was invented right here on Earth... another planet type thing infested with humans and human like things... like Seshmeister, LoungeMachine & Elvis...

    Point is... the research and development of space exploration has produced tons of technologies that have improved life on Earth for those human and human like beings.

    It may not be the simple and direct development you are thinking... many were indirect adaptations. Put it simply... if we didn't invest in space exploration, a lot of very good stuff would not have been invented in the last 60 years.

    On the benefit to mankind thing... those mankind units are very restless and get bored easily. If we aren't busy working on figuring out the mysteries of the universe then we're out stirring up trouble. You'll notice that millions of humans and human like beings spend their whole lives researching and developing this "space stuff". That may seem like a waste of good time and money... but look at how many of those folks aren't starting wars and shootin up movie theaters. It makes the world safer...

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    Ok ZahZoo....the nutshell version of that can be summed up in one sentence:

    Idle hands are the devil's plaything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthcoming View Post
    I just don't understand how landing on Mars is supposed to be this tremendous benefit to all mankind. I'm not saying Nasa is useless....just wondering what landing on other planets is supposed to do for anyone or anything other than our country's ego.

    Where else are we supposed to live when the Earth gets too crowded? They're already thinking colonization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Where else are we supposed to live when the Earth gets too crowded? They're already thinking colonization.
    Yep, we'll go back to the original 12 colonies - you know, Caprica, Picon, etc.

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    I think I'm going to invest in Terra-forming technologies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    I think I'm going to invest in Terra-forming technologies...
    Strip joints in space...that's where the money is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Strip joints in space...that's where the money is!
    Could call it the 600 mile high club
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    Could call it the 600 mile high club
    Perfect!!

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    Apparently it's easy to break your penis in space. 4:37
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Where else are we supposed to live when the Earth gets too crowded? They're already thinking colonization.
    I say we send all the assholes to Mars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I say we send all the assholes to Mars.
    It'd be hard to get Sammy off his bad motor scooter to send him into space...

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    Well let's take a look at some of the more simple and easily applied benefits from that list. Look at all of the fire fighting technologies that enable firefighters to safely fight fires and save lives. That helps a lot of people... right?

    Well... space is a nasty place. Once outside of our atmosphere... radiation, wide temperature ranges both cold and hot... require protective clothing. In other words space suits. Then there's the whole breathing thing... the technology developed to safely put a human in space and been adapted to humans safely fighting fires... thus benefiting in saved lives. That's a good thing... right?

    Now no, these technologies were not captured from the moon and Mars... both of those are planet type things that do not produce technologies. All of this wonderful stuff was invented right here on Earth... another planet type thing infested with humans and human like things... like Seshmeister, LoungeMachine & Elvis...

    Point is... the research and development of space exploration has produced tons of technologies that have improved life on Earth for those human and human like beings.

    It may not be the simple and direct development you are thinking... many were indirect adaptations. Put it simply... if we didn't invest in space exploration, a lot of very good stuff would not have been invented in the last 60 years.

    On the benefit to mankind thing... those mankind units are very restless and get bored easily. If we aren't busy working on figuring out the mysteries of the universe then we're out stirring up trouble. You'll notice that millions of humans and human like beings spend their whole lives researching and developing this "space stuff". That may seem like a waste of good time and money... but look at how many of those folks aren't starting wars and shootin up movie theaters. It makes the world safer...
    That was probably the most polite and lucid way anyone has ever been sarcastic and slightly patronizing I have ever seen. Point taken Zahzoo. I agree with some of what you say no doubt. I guess we can agree to disagree about certain aspects too. Like anyone really gives a shit anyway.

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    The general mindset seems to be we have ruined this planet so lets move to Mars. It's already ruined.

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    I think you missed a few things...

    What products have been created by NASA and space exploration?
    Posted on February 3, 2010 by Dale Jackson

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    360 Degree Camera
    3-D Synthetic Vision Flight Displays
    Advanced Hydrogen Sensors
    Advanced Lubricants
    Advanced Welding Torch
    Aerodynamic Bicycle Wheels
    Air Catalysts for Carbon Monoxide Poisoning
    Aircraft Collision Avoidance
    Aircraft Design Analysis
    Airline Wheelchairs
    Airliner TV Transmission Via Satellite
    AiroCide TiO2 Air Purifier
    Anthrax Smoke Detector
    Arteriosclerosis Detection
    Artificial Heart
    Astronaut Plant Bag
    Athletic Shoes
    Audiometric System for Hearing Assessment
    Automated Urinalysis
    Automatic Insulin Pump
    Automotive Design
    Automotive Insulation
    BAFCO Linear Actuators
    Balance Evaluation System
    Biomass Production System for Education
    Bioreactor Demonstration System
    Bioreactor Human Tissue Growth
    Bone Analyzer
    Breast Biopsy
    Breast Cancer Screening
    Bridge Safety Improvements
    Cabin Pressure Altitude Monitor and Warning System
    Camera on a Chip
    Cardiac Pacemaker
    Cataract Surgery Tools
    Chemical Warfare Hood
    Chromosome Analysis
    Clean Room Apparel
    Clean Water for Homes
    Coastal Zone Color Scanner
    Compact Blood Diagnostic Equipment
    Compact Fire and Rescue Extraction Devices
    Composite Forceps
    Composite Materials Development – Golf Clubs
    Computer Joysticks
    Computer-Aided Tomography (CAT Scanner)
    Computer Reader for the Blind
    Convection Oven
    Cool Vest Therapeutic Suits
    Cordless Power Tools and Appliances
    Corporate Jet Wing Designs
    Corrosion Protection Coating
    Crop Dusting Improvements
    Crop Growing Improvements
    DeBakey Heart Pump
    Dental Arch Wire
    Digital Mammography
    Diving Optical Profiler
    DMI Remote Sensing Fish-Finding Service
    Doppler Radar
    Ear Thermometer
    Edible Toothpaste
    Electric Car
    Emission Testing
    Emulsified Zero-Valent Iron Remediation
    Energy Storage Systems
    Engine Coatings
    Engine Design
    Engine Lubricant
    Failsafe Flashlight
    Fetal Heart Monitor
    Fire Detection Systems
    Firefighter Breathing System
    Firefighter Radios
    Firefighting Equipment
    Fireman’s Air Tanks
    Fitness Equipment
    Flame Detector
    Foam-In-Place Seating Technology
    Freeze Drying Technologies
    Gas Detector
    Gasoline Vapor Recovery
    Geosynchronous Orbiting
    Golf Ball Aerodynamics
    GPS Navigation
    Helmet Padding
    High Temperature Soldering Blocks
    High-Pressure Waterstripping
    Historical Document Condition Analysis
    Home Insulation
    Human Tissue Stimulator
    Implantable Heart Aid
    Improved Aircraft Engines
    Inertial Motion-Tracking for Virtual Reality
    Infrared Camera
    Infrared Thermometer
    Insulation
    Insulin Pumps
    Interactive Computer Training
    InTime Agricultural Remote Sensing
    Invisible Braces
    Kidney Dialysis
    Land Mine Removal Device
    Laser Angioplasty
    Laser Heart Surgery
    Laser Wire Stripper
    Lead Poison Detection
    Lifeshears – Emergency Rescue Cutters
    Lightning Protection
    Low Vision Enhancement System (LVES)
    Lubricant Coating Process
    Machine Tool Software
    Magnetic Bearing System
    Magnetic Liquids
    Magnetic Resonance Imaging
    Medical Gas Analyzer
    Methane-Powered Vehicles
    Microelectromechanical Systems
    Microlasers
    Miniature Accelerometers
    Modified Carbon Nanotube Materials
    Ocean Fluorometer
    Ocular Screening
    Oil Spill Control
    PackBot Tactical Mobile Robot
    Palate Surgery Technology
    Personal Storm Warning System
    Pesticide-Free Mosquito Killing System
    Phenotype MicroArray
    Photodynamic Therapy
    Physical Therapy
    Pill Sized Transmitter
    Plantronics Wireless Communications Devices
    Portable X-Ray Device
    Precision Lightning Strike Location System
    Programmable Pacemaker
    PRO-SAN Non-Toxic Microbicidal Santizer
    Prosthesis Material
    Protective Clothing
    PureSense Water and Air Purification Systems
    Quartz Clock
    Radiant Barrier Technology
    Radiation Hazard Detector
    Real-Time Emergency Action Coordination Tool
    Remote Controlled Light Switch
    Remote Command and Control Appliances
    Ribbed Swimsuit
    Robotic Arms
    Robotic Hands
    Satellite Computer Data Transmission
    Satellite Computer Image Transmission
    Satellite Crop Growth & Monitoring
    Satellite Fishing Technology
    Satellite Stabilization
    Satellite Telephone Signal Transmission
    Satellite TV Transmission
    School Bus Improvements
    Secure Mobile Router System
    Self-Locking Fasteners
    Self-Righting Life Raft
    Ski Boots
    Skin Care Product Effectiveness Technology
    Smoke Detector Improvements
    Smoke Penetrating Forest Fire Analysis
    Solar Power Technologies
    Solid State High-Power Transmitters
    Space Pens
    SpiraFlex Resistance Exercise Device
    Stadium Roofing Fabric
    Standing Wave Reflectometer Wire Analyzer
    Studless Winter Tires
    Sunglasses Blocking Harmful Rays
    Surgical Brain Tumor Probe
    Temper Foam Technology
    Temperature Pill
    Thermal Gloves and Boots
    Thermal Protection Insulation
    Three-dimensional Thermal Tomography in Radiation Oncology
    Tire Deflating Devices – MagnumSpike
    Tollbooth Air Purification
    Ultrasound Scanners
    Ultrasound Skin Damage Assesment
    VEGGIE – Deployable Vegetable System
    Vehicle Brake Improvements
    Vehicle Tracking
    Velcro
    Video Stabilization
    Virtual Reality
    Vision Screening System
    Voice Controlled Wheelchair
    Warfighter Accelerated Recovery
    Waste Heat Energy Conversion
    Waste Water Purification
    Water Purification
    Weight Saving Composite Materials
    Welding Sensor System
    Whale Tracking Technologies
    Windshear Prediction
    WindTracer for Tracking Aircraft Wake Vortices
    Wireless Communications
    ZipNut


    That's a lot of stuff. I just wish we would have already set up a lunar base on the moon by now. 40 something yrs. after going to the moon you would think we would have a permanent base there to not only continue to make advancements on those things in that list but to actually build some sort of interstellar craft that would be able to get to places like Mars much faster. It really seems like somewhere after we landed on the moon we became less interested in space exploration and more inclined to just orbit Earth with the shuttle.
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    There'd be more interest in space exploration if the astronauts looked like this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    It'd be hard to get Sammy off his bad motor scooter to send him into space...
    Well, we could "march him to Mars," but that would us littering with space junk...

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    The cardiac pacemaker was actually created by a Canadian engineer. NASA's contribution was programmable pacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthcoming View Post
    That was probably the most polite and lucid way anyone has ever been sarcastic and slightly patronizing I have ever seen. Point taken Zahzoo. I agree with some of what you say no doubt. I guess we can agree to disagree about certain aspects too. Like anyone really gives a shit anyway.
    You caught me on a good day...

    My personal interest in all this stems from the fact that all of the scientific advancement has occurred in my lifetime. From the X-15 rocket plane and Mercury programs to the ISS and these Mars robots. So I grew in school learning of Mercury, Gemini & Apollo programs as current events. Not grainy black & white pictures and film in a history lesson. As an 11 year old watching the moon landing live in school was an event that I can't ever forget...

    People today take so much of what we have for granted... it's pathetic. But I guess you have to have been around before all this technology existed to appreciate it and truly understand how far we've come in such a short time period. Majority of it all comes from two sources... space exploration and Information Technology. I have been fortunate to have spent my career in the forefront of IT and also have worked on a few NASA related projects.

    You can ask why waste the time and money to go to Mars... I'd ask why not. What are you going to do sit around watching reruns of Gillligans Island drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon beer every night or get off your lazy ass and explore the galaxy..?

    Go read Carl Sagan's book Pale Blue Dot... if that doesn't inspire you... change the channel I'm sure Sponge Bob is on... Maybe you'll discover a Crabby Patty...

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    That was less polite.

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    You caught me on a good day...

    My personal interest in all this stems from the fact that all of the scientific advancement has occurred in my lifetime. From the X-15 rocket plane and Mercury programs to the ISS and these Mars robots. So I grew in school learning of Mercury, Gemini & Apollo programs as current events. Not grainy black & white pictures and film in a history lesson. As an 11 year old watching the moon landing live in school was an event that I can't ever forget...

    People today take so much of what we have for granted... it's pathetic. But I guess you have to have been around before all this technology existed to appreciate it and truly understand how far we've come in such a short time period. Majority of it all comes from two sources... space exploration and Information Technology. I have been fortunate to have spent my career in the forefront of IT and also have worked on a few NASA related projects.

    You can ask why waste the time and money to go to Mars... I'd ask why not. What are you going to do sit around watching reruns of Gillligans Island drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon beer every night or get off your lazy ass and explore the galaxy..?

    Go read Carl Sagan's book Pale Blue Dot... if that doesn't inspire you... change the channel I'm sure Sponge Bob is on... Maybe you'll discover a Crabby Patty...
    Ok....I'm not a narrow minded, pigheaded moron so I took your advice, went to the library and took out Pale Blue Dot. Just starting to read it. Your coming from a vantage point of being an 11 yr old remembering the Moon landing. I'm coming from the vantage point of a 12 year old whose class was stopped by a weeping teacher who came in to tell us the Challenger had just blown up. There's always room to learn and be enlightened.....I'm not above that by any means. Not sure if there's any need for your smarmy jabs about Gilligans Island, Pabst and Sponge Bob, but no biggie.

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