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    Another mass shooting, this time at a Wisconsin Sikh temple

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/05/us/wis...ing/index.html

    Gunman, six others dead at Wisconsin Sikh temple
    By the CNN Wire Staff
    updated 5:28 PM EDT, Sun August 5, 2012

    Oak Creek, Wisconsin (CNN) -- At least seven people, including a gunman shot by a police officer, were killed Sunday in an attack on worshippers at a Sikh temple in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek, police said.

    The officer was wounded but "returned fire, and that shooter was put down," said Bradley Wentlandt, the police chief in nearby Greenfield, who briefed reporters. Investigators who picked through the building afterward found four bodies inside the temple and two other victims outside, plus the gunman, Wentlandt said.

    At an afternoon news conference, Oak Creek Police Chief John Edwards said that authorities are treating the shooting as a "domestic terrorist-type incident," adding that the FBI will head the investigation.

    Two semi-automatic handguns believed used by the shooter were recovered from the scene, a law enforcement source directly involved in the investigation told CNN.

    At least three wounded, including the officer, were being treated at Milwaukee's Froedtert Hospital, spokeswoman Carolyn Bellin told CNN. All three were in critical condition.

    Edwards said late Sunday afternoon that officers "just were able to clear" the scene of the shooting at the temple.

    Family members gathered outside the temple, or gurdwara, told CNN affilliate WTMJ that survivors were being taken to a nearby bowling alley for questioning. Amardeep Kaleka said his father, congregation president Satwant Kaleka, was shot and wounded when he attempted to tackle the gunman, and his mother -- who hid in a closet during the violence -- was too distraught to talk.

    The Sikh religion originated in northern India in the early 1500s. Sikh men are identifiable by their beards and turbans, but often confused for Hindus or Muslims. There are roughly 25 million Sikhs in the world, 700,000 of whom live in the United States, according to the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund.

    The Oak Creek gurdwara has a congregation of 250 to 400, according to its website.
    "I just want to say this temple was built a number of years ago and there have never been any problems with this temple," Oak Creek Alderman Dan Jakubczyk said. "They've been a plus to this city and to my district."

    Though early reports had suggested there may have been more than one attacker, Wentlandt said officers had not identified any other gunmen. As the search went on, utility crews cut electric and gas service to the building at the request of authorities, said Cathy Schulze, a spokeswoman for area utility We Energies.

    The police officer wounded in the assault is a 20-year veteran who was shot multiple times, Wentlandt said, but he was expected to survive. The officer was sent to the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, south of Milwaukee, after a 911 call about 10:25 a.m. (11:25 a.m. ET).

    State Rep. Josh Zepnick, who represents much of the Milwaukee area's Sikh community, said he was "torn to shreds" by the attack.

    "It's a very peace-loving community that has successfully integrated and assimilated into the metropolitan Milwaukee area," Zepnick told CNN afilliate WTMJ.

    And state Rep. Mark Honadel, who represents the area, called the attack "craziness."

    "Unfortunately, when this type of stuff hits your area, you say to yourself, 'Why?' But in today's society, I don't think there's any place that's free from idiots."

    Top state and national political leaders offered statements of condolence after the killings, which came two weeks after a massacre at a Colorado movie theater that left 12 dead and dozens more wounded.

    "Our hearts go out to the victims and their families, as we all struggle to comprehend the evil that begets this terrible violence," Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said in a statement issued by his office. "At the same time, we are filled with gratitude for our first responders, who show bravery and selflessness as they put aside their own safety to protect our neighbors and friends."

    In a statement from the White House, President Barack Obama said the United States had been "enriched" by Sikhs, "who are a part of our broader American family."

    "My administration will provide whatever support is necessary to the officials who are responding to this tragic shooting and moving forward with an investigation," Obama said.

    And from Boston, Obama's presumptive Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, called the slayings "a senseless act of violence and a tragedy that should never befall any house of worship." He said the hearts of he and his wife, Ann, "are with the victims, their families, and the entire Oak Creek Sikh community."
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    I've been watching this on CNN since this morning. Insanity.

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    Deeply sad news

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    Geezus, if you're going to go batshit crazy and start killing people in Wisconsin, I can think of some far more worthy targets than a bunch of Sikhs.

    What the Hell did they ever do to anybody?
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    Gunman's tattoos lead officials to deem Sikh shooting terrorism

    Oak Creek police declined to identify the gunman or outline a possible motive.

    The designation of “domestic terrorism” under the FBI’s rubric — which was not applied to the Aurora, Colo., theater shooting — implies a political agenda. The FBI defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”

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    Authorities have cordoned off the 3700 block of E. Holmes Ave., just south of downtown Cudahy, where they have surrounded a duplex. A large contingent of law enforcement and fire department vehicles are in the vicinity. The neighborhood was being evacuated.

    Kurt Weins said he rented the upper flat of the duplex authorities were searching to a single man in his 40s about month ago. Weins lives across the street from the duplex..

    Weins said he had just been interviewed by law enforcement authorities and said he was uncomfortable providing much detail. However, he said, he was surprised by the attention his tenant has attracted.

    "I had him checked out and he definitely checked out," Weins said. "The cops told me they don't want me to say nothing right now."

    A We Energies worker has been escorted by law enforcement officers to the duplex to shut off the gas, and at about 7:40 p.m. authorities were using a bucket truck to look into the windows of the upper flat.

    Neighbors had said earlier police had entered the building; it's unclear if they have entered.

    A military-style Humvee with FBI markings on the side of it moved up the street shortly after 6 p.m. with its lights flashing, moving along the west end of the block.. Authorities in green military uniforms with FBI insignia were seen moving up and down an alley and a street near the duplex.

    At about 7:35 p.m., three law enforcement officers wearing military gear and carrying heavy weapons, were loaded into a basket overhanging the cab of a St. Francis Fire Department ladder truck. The truck moved back slowly down S. Kirkwood Ave. Meanwhile, the area near the duplex was saturated with ambulances from a variety of jurisdictions, fire engines, SUV's and a Humvee with FBI markings.

    Alma Reyes lives on the corner, three houses from the property in question. She was unable to get to her home with her two young daughters. She said the duplex had been vacant until recently.

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    Another CIA shooting ??

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    Another idiotic conspiracy theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Geezus, if you're going to go batshit crazy and start killing people in Wisconsin, I can think of some far more worthy targets than a bunch of Sikhs.

    What the Hell did they ever do to anybody?
    Exactly.

    As religions go they are very easy to deal with an usually integrate well.

    Could be some dumbfuck redneck got mixed up with the 'towel head' bullshit and was so dumb he thought they were Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Could be some dumbfuck redneck got mixed up with the 'towel head' bullshit and was so dumb he thought they were Muslim.

    That's my bet --- Sikhs are very peaceful and are NOT Muslim.

    At least the scumbag got sent to Hell by a bad ass Wisconsin cop --- no bullshit trial and death row stays for this fuckstick.

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    So, "dumbfuck rednecks" are so dumb, they shoot the wrong people ??

    How 'bout, dumbfuck progressives are so dumb, they think they're smarter than rednecks ??

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    I wouldn't chase this one, E.

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    Kurt Weins owns 2 houses one is shared ownerships with a Tina Weins.

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    Thumbs down You knew it was coming...

    Quote Originally Posted by ELBOW the cuntspiracy theorist View Post
    Another CIA shooting ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Another idiotic conspiracy theory?
    Wondered how long that was gonna take...

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    I said there would be more shootings...

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    Oh, and they already called this one domestic terrorism....

    Isn't that nice ??

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    very sad. we have a large sikh community here, and they are really good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Oh, and they already called this one domestic terrorism....

    Isn't that nice ??
    I agree with you on that, what a crock...probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Exactly.

    As religions go they are very easy to deal with an usually integrate well.

    Could be some dumbfuck redneck got mixed up with the 'towel head' bullshit and was so dumb he thought they were Muslim.
    That's my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Oh, and they already called this one domestic terrorism....

    Isn't that nice ??

    Yeah well, the 9/11 tattoo is kind of a red flag...

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    Look at how they're trying to make this story as heart wrenching as possible on CNN...

    Nobody bought the last bullshit story so they're really playing this up...real writers and everything...

    White guy

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    Magazine

    Bullshit

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    Bullshit!!!

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    You are becoming very silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Yeah well, the 9/11 tattoo is kind of a red flag...
    Looks like payback might have been the motive. My parents nieghbors were from Egypt. After 9/11 they were pretty damn scared about people blaming them for it but fortunately that did not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I said there would be more shootings...
    Because every time we have intense saturation coverage of a mass murder, we expect to see one or two more within a week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I said there would be more shootings...
    What a prophet you are......



    I call for more warm temps.......THE CIA IS CONTROLLING THE WEATHER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Look at how they're trying to make this story as heart wrenching as possible on CNN...

    Nobody bought the last bullshit story so they're really playing this up...real writers and everything...

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    Bullshit!!!
    A bunch of innocent people getting shot for nothing is pretty heart wrenching. Of course the media is going to play it up and people are going to exploit it for political reasons. Same lame shit. Yeah these shootings are at the perfect time to sell the UN Small Arms Treaty and all that. The reality is you have no solid proof that anyone set these shootings up to create a problem that needs a gun grabbing sollution. Just speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    What a prophet you are......



    I call for more warm temps.......THE CIA IS CONTROLLING THE WEATHER.

    [ what are those chemtrails anyway, E?? better get on it ]
    Don't forget HAARP.

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    Maybe you idiots will wake up at the next shooting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Maybe you idiots will wake up at the next shooting...
    More likely you'll be the next shooter.....



    You seem to carry many of the same traits

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    You're fucking stupid...

    And there are reports of multiple shooters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    You're fucking stupid...

    And there are reports of multiple shooters...
    Oh, shit.....well then it's CERTAINLY a CIA Psyops hit



    You're fucking stupid. And probably a little too close to "dangerous nut" than is acceptable by most community standards.

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    Fuck off, you're brainwashed by the pop culture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post

    And there are reports of multiple shooters...
    Links please



    I find nothing in the "non-tinfoil" media

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Fuck off, you're brainwashed by the pop culture...
    You fuck off.

    And what the fuck does that even mean?



    Pop culture?

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    As opposed to being brainwashed by Alex Jones?

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    Goodnight, ladies...

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    Yes, leave before providing the links......



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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    You're fucking stupid...

    And there are reports of multiple shooters...
    During a chaotic few hours after the first shots were fired around 10:30 a.m., police in tactical gear and carrying assault rifles surrounded the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin with armored vehicles and ambulances. Witnesses struggled with unrealized fears that several shooters were holding women and children hostage inside.

    One of the first officers to respond to frantic 911 calls seeking help was shot several times as he tended to a wounded victim, and was in critical condition along with two other victims Sunday night, authorities said. Police said the officer was expected to survive.

    Jatinder Mangat, 38, of Racine, another nephew of the temple's president, said his uncle was among those shot, but he didn't know the extent of his injuries. When Mangat later learned people had died, he said "it was like the heart just sat down."

    Edwards said the gunman "ambushed" one of the first officers to arrive at the temple as the officer, a 20-year veteran with tactical experience, tended to a victim outside. A second officer then exchanged gunfire with the suspect, who was fatally shot. Police had earlier said the officer who was shot killed the suspected shooter.

    Tactical units went through the temple and found four people dead inside and two outside, in addition to the shooter.

    Gurpreet Kaur, 24, of Oak Creek, said her mother and a group of about 14 other women were preparing a meal in the temple kitchen when the gunman entered and started firing. Kaur said her mother felt two bullets fly by her as the group fled to the pantry. Her mother suffered what Kaur thought was shrapnel wound in her foot.

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...ple/?page=full




    E, The temple is very large and many people were there. People experiencing the shoot-out could very well mistake the police shots and tacticals as danger, and rightly should during an active event.



    It is very difficult to determine safety (whom, what, and where) during an actual security event of this nature.
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    Gotta love it when Blaze schools ELVIS on reality......


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    Sounds like another dumbfuck Teabagger gone mental and wanted to kill them because he thought they looked muslim.

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