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    NFL Replacement Refs Becoming Issue

    Flacco was right to rip replacement refs
    September, 16, 2012

    By Jamison Hensley | ESPN.com

    Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco is going to make headlines across the country for ripping the replacement referees. The league shouldn't fine him for his comments. The NFL needs to listen to him.

    "The NFL and everybody always talk about the integrity of the game. I think this is kind of along those lines," Flacco said after the Ravens' 24-23 loss at Philadelphia. "Not to say these guys are doing a bad job, but the fact that we don't have the normal guys out there is pretty crazy."


    Flacco said he hates complaining because he doesn’t want to “sound like a baby." But Flacco's criticism of the replacement officials is warranted. In fact, I wish other players would follow suit. Flacco is only saying what most fans and reporters are thinking.

    The replacement referees lost control of the Ravens-Eagles game early and often. There was shoving. There were fights. It was obvious that the players had no respect for any man with a whistle. It was hard for anyone to take the replacement refs seriously when they couldn't keep track of timeouts and had two two-minute warnings in the fourth quarter. The officials took forever to sort out calls, which is why the game lasted 3 hours, 38 minutes.

    The most debated call was the offensive pass interference penalty on Ravens wide receiver Jacoby Jones on a touchdown catch that would've put Baltimore ahead, 27-17, with 5:29 remaining. If anything, it looked like defensive pass interference on Nnamdi Asomugha, who never turned to face the ball. It only made matters worse when the official didn't throw a flag. He mistakenly tossed out his blue beanie.

    I'm not suggesting the referees cost the Ravens the game. Flacco's second-half flop (8 of 25 passing) and the Ravens' suspect play calling (throwing the ball on third and fourth downs when they needed one yard on the final drive) played just as big of a factor in Baltimore's first loss of the season.

    But the replacement referees are impacting games in a very negative way. There were more embarrassing calls in the Steelers-Jets game (like Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor getting called for interference when he never touched Santonio Holmes). As Flacco said, this is affecting the integrity of the game. This situation isn't getting any better. It's only getting worse.
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    Betcha he wouldn't have been complaining about the refs had the Ravens won.....

    There was a phantom interference penalty against Ike Taylor in the Jets/Steelers game that was absolutely horrendous....

    I know you always hear that "he barely touched him", but this time it's literally true.... Taylor barely glanced him with his hand.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Betcha he wouldn't have been complaining about the refs had the Ravens won.....

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    Maybe not, but someone mentioned that the Ravens defense was taking liberties on Vick's head and were repeated smacking him around after the play, didn't most of the game though. It makes a larger point that the players don't respect the rep refs on the whole...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Maybe not, but someone mentioned that the Ravens defense was taking liberties on Vick's head and were repeated smacking him around after the play, didn't most of the game though. It makes a larger point that the players don't respect the rep refs on the whole...
    I saw that whole game and I would agree that the Ravens were trying to hurt Vick. They did call one penalty (hit to teh head) right after a real bad shot that was late and not called.
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    We were talking about this very issue at work today . The sum of our conversation :
    It's just a matter of time before someone murders a replacement referee .

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    well...the MNF game was a complete debacle and brutal to watch becasue of the officiating. They can't go another week can they?

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    49ers scored a TD on a play that was clearly after the quarter ran out and it couldn't be challenged. The way the Niners played on D they likely would have still won but holding them to a FG instead of the TD would have been huge. These officials are a joke and not a very funny one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Betcha he wouldn't have been complaining about the refs had the Ravens won.....
    Maybe not, but that sure as hell wasn't OFFENSIVE pass interference. The defender's back was turned, he wasn't making a play for the ball and had his hands all over the receiver....making it DEFENSIVE pass interference.

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    After watching a couple of games yesterday and seeing quite a few highlights, this is simply an awful situation. The real refs are needed back as soon as possible.

    During the Pats/Ravens game, the "refs" clearly didn't have control on the field.

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    Couldn't agree with you more. That Pats/Ravens game last night was like watching a beer league. Someone is going to get killed out there.

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    I guess Belichick manhandled one of the refs right after the game...

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-...ent-officials/

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthcoming View Post
    Someone is going to get killed out there.
    Tony Romo damn near did yesterday as the result of a helmet to helmet hit that the clueless officials didn't call a personal foul on. Sean Lee got his bell rung last week on a hit that should have had a personal foul called on as well. I guess it's going to take several players getting seriously hurt on the count of these dumbass refs before the league decides to pay the real officials and bring them back.

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    How did you like the call on the last play of Monday Night Football? The Packers player clearly intercepted the ball, but it was ruled a Seattle touchdown, and after review it was upheld. Bullshit.

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    This is getting reeefucking dickulisss

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    Christ, what an utterly insipid, mind-fuckingly embarrassing joke this has turned into. As of 11 AM, the walking mushroom Roger Goodell has yet to offer comment on the fiasco his so-called leadership has wrought in this referee mess. Integrity of the game? Fuck him and the crippled horse he rode in on.

    The only positive thing to note in all of this is that ESPN's Hannah Storm still looks remarkably do-able.









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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Texan View Post
    How did you like the call on the last play of Monday Night Football? The Packers player clearly intercepted the ball, but it was ruled a Seattle touchdown, and after review it was upheld. Bullshit.

    Crazy end for sure. But what was the correct call? Incomplete? Interception? Interference? Replay the down? I'm not real well versed in the NFL rule book. I would have called it incomplete. A "catch" to me means that 1 person has full control and "caught" the ball. You can't have 2 people catch the same ball. Ask EVH. Can't be in 2 ba.....ahh nvm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    Crazy end for sure. But what was the correct call? Incomplete? Interception? Interference? Replay the down? I'm not real well versed in the NFL rule book. I would have called it incomplete. A "catch" to me means that 1 person has full control and "caught" the ball. You can't have 2 people catch the same ball. Ask EVH. Can't be in 2 ba.....ahh nvm.
    Offensive pass interference..Tate clearly shoved the defender to catch the ball..which he didnt catch..I think that would have ended game by no time left and an offensive penalty.

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    When a player offers to pay a fine and give it to the real refs..ya know shit has hit rock bottom

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    I'll just stick with college football until this shit gets resolved.

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    as an owner this really hurts

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    Are some of these refs really from the Lingerie League?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Are some of these refs really from the Lingerie League?
    yup, they got fired 'cause they are not good at refereeing

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    I love how a sports league that makes TENS OF BILLIONS from TV rights and fans every year is making a big deal out of a few extra million to experienced refs.

    Mittens Romney should be the new NFL Commish ---- "Hey I deserve all this money cuz I'm a job creator, dudes"


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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    The only positive thing to note in all of this is that ESPN's Hannah Storm still looks remarkably do-able.

    Hannah and Erin Andrews should play in the Lingerie League --- I'd forget all about the scummy NFL


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    Packers guard T.J. Lang’s Twitter explosion could be the most re-tweeted tweet of all time
    It's safe to say that Green Bay Packers guard T.J. Lang wasn't too happy about the way his team's 14-12 loss to the Seattle Seahawks ended on Monday night. We've already documented one of the most controversial calls in NFL history, but the fallout will take a while to fully comprehend.

    The NFL should be glad there wasn't Twitter back in the days of Super Bowl XL or the Tuck Rule game, because the league would have to deal with stuff like this:


    The rest at the link-title...

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    Roger G. The commissioner of NFL
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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    as an owner this really hurts


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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mh5150 View Post
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    As a Seahawks fan, I'm obviously conflicted about this....

    I want my team to win. But I'd rather it wasn't due to incompetent referees. Just like I didn't like them "losing" Super Bowl XL due to an incompetent ref - and that fool wasn't even a SCAB.

    The big irony of today though - KKKoch funded union haters Scott Walker and Eddie Munster (both from Wisconsin) are suddenly big fans of the referees union
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    Somebody on local news in Boston suggested they just throw out the union, take all these scabs and train them to be real refs. He said "Reagan did it with PATCO and it worked". Of course my hackles went up immediately

    Oh dear.

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    I'm really suprised the MNF ending hasn't created a bigger shit storm. The missed blatant pass interference call I would have to say is the biggest blunder. The touchdown call could have been made by any official replacement or regular if he thought that's what he saw. And the review process can't really be blamed because there was no clear angle that showed without a doubt who was in possesion. It's hard to say what would be a fair resolution if it's not clear who had possesion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motherchicken View Post
    I'm really suprised the MNF ending hasn't created a bigger shit storm. The missed blatant pass interference call I would have to say is the biggest blunder. The touchdown call could have been made by any official replacement or regular if he thought that's what he saw. And the review process can't really be blamed because there was no clear angle that showed without a doubt who was in possesion. It's hard to say what would be a fair resolution if it's not clear who had possesion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    proof.jpg

    proof
    I don't think that one still photo prooves anything. I believe it was an interception but my opinion doesn't mean shit to the NFL. A pass interference call would have made everything else a moot point anyway.

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    Packers were robbed....plain and simple. That being said.....knock that shit down!!!.....don't go for the pick.....knock it down!!!

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