I saw Kiss and Motley Crue last night

[fraroc]

Two words described the show.

FUCKING AWESOME.

Motley Crue took the stage with a staged satanic ritual which included upside-down crucifixes and hot girls and then all the members of the band appeared on the stage and blasted into "Saints of Los Angeles" and "Shout at the Devil" Their stage act was fucking AWESOME. Hot girls on stage, Laser light shows, Flamethrowers, Fireworks, M-80s exploding with a loud "BANG" in synch with the music....It was a fucking experience, I'll tell you that. Musically, Tommy, Nikki and Mick were all in top form, Sadly I think Vince Neil had a cold or something because his voice cracked three times on stage.
But one of the most memorable parts of Crue's set was in the middle of the show, all of this Gangsta rap and Dubstep shit began blaring over the PA while Tommy played along to the beat. His drum kit was on a giant circular track, similar to a vertical loop on a roller coaster, and while the Rap music became louder, his drums were litterally rocking back and forth on the track and you heard "SUCK MY MUTHAFUCKIN' DI--" And his drums were suspended upside-down on the track for two minutes while he kept playing! And then after the solo was over, he let a female fan ride the drum-coaster with him! Overall, the entire show was amazing and I would love to see them again!

Kiss was awesome too, I gotta say, Paul Stanley is 60, Gene is 63, they can still put on a killer show! We got the whole experience, fire breathing, blood spitting...EVERYTHING. Musically, Paul Stanley sounded scores better than Vince Neil, Tommy and Eric are both great musicians even though they're not Ace and Peter. (Just once before one of them dies, I'd like to see them back together.) At the rate they're going they sure ain't ready for the afterlife yet! But Theatrically, I'd say that Motley Crue was more impressive. Kiss had the rising drum set and and the pyro, but Motley Crue had flamethrowers, dynamite, lasers, and Tommy's drums on a roller coaster!

Both acts were really good though and I REALLY want to see them again.


However, I almost beat the shit out of some punk that said that yelled "Van Halen Sucks!" during Crue's set (There is always one...:fupunk:.) I'm ashamed to say I didn't.

Up next on the concert agenda for me?

KANSAS

[twonabomber]

how was Vince getting around? i guess he tweaked his ankle or something during the first song at the Cleveland stop. a couple guys from work went and said he hobbled through the whole set.

[fraroc]

how was Vince getting around? i guess he tweaked his ankle or something during the first song at the Cleveland stop. a couple guys from work went and said he hobbled through the whole set.

Vince moved around ok, but he had a visible cast on his ankle.

Mick Mars was a houseplant on stage. He didn't shout out to the audience or anything, he just stood in one place the entire show. His playing was fucking AMAZING though.

[ELVIS]

Mars has ankylosing spondylitis, which is a form of arthritis that mainly affects the spine and pelvis...

He said that, over the years, the illness has caused his lower spine to seize up and freeze completely solid...

[sadaist]

Vince moved around ok, but he had a visible cast on his ankle.

Mick Mars was a houseplant on stage. He didn't shout out to the audience or anything, he just stood in one place the entire show. His playing was fucking AMAZING though.

still makes me sad whenever I think about Mick. Even back in the 80's he wasn't a big stage presence. The other 3 guys were / are all spotlight whores and Mick always was fine kinda standing back in the shadows and doing his job. But he truly is like a zombie now. Like he is stuck on a mannequin post & they wheel him out to his spot to play for the show.

But if he stops playing with the band they might as well wrap it up. Just as it aint Crue without Vince or Tommy, it aint Crue without Mick.



*Motley Crue Theater Of Pain tour - Loudness opening. San Diego Sports Arena. August 25, 1985. MY FIRST CONCERT!

[binnie]

Saw Crue a few years back and was very, very impressed. Normally I feel that expansive stage shows are more of a 'pop' thing which serves as a substitute for, rather than a complement to, the music, but it wasn't the case with Crue. Not sure how much of it was 'live' and how much was piped in (although Vince was definitely 'singing), but I had a blast nonetheless.

[Dave's Bitch]

I have seen so many videos from "The Tour" you would not believe .Both bands have been awesome.I have to say Motley Crue have surprised me.I am a BIG crue fan but I guess I underestimated them on this tour.Vince has not sounded too great,But he has never been that great live so nothing really to complain about.I agree with Sadaist about Mick,Motley Crue are Vince,Nikki,Tommy and Mick.As for Kiss I can say I am not surprised.They always bring the house down live.There stage presence and energy is just fantastic.One of the best things about a Kiss show is being packed in the floor with how ever many thousands of brothers and sisters,Kiss crowds are just awesome

As for beating on a kid who doesn't like Van Halen,Why bother?..No point in messing up a fantastic night over a difference in music taste.Just roll with the punches,Take a ride on the wild side,Rock n Roll all night and part every day

[fraroc]

Well as long as Mick is still willing to go out there and preform, he's going to be ok

here is a video of the Drum Coaster!


You see, It's not Tommy's skill that makes him impressive. Its his creativity and ingenuity that really makes him one of my favorite drummers. But I'm surprised on how many people hated the Drum Coaster...I understand that the music he's playing to is one of the shittiest music I have ever heard, but the spectacle we got made it so fucking worth it. Some people said that Tommy Lee is a disgrace to rock n' roll, and that they hope he falls from the drum kit and dies. Seriously, you want him to die because of the choice of music he used?

[twonabomber]

Tommy's solo on the Red White and Crue tour was MUCH worse. Even his Gen Swine tour solo wasn't that bad.

[Nitro Express]

I hate overproduced shit. Tommy. Where's the drumming? I see the roller coaster but where's the fast foot work and drum rolls? Frankly Charlie Watts can smoke this guy with just a simple kit playing inside of Rolling Stones songs. I'm not a fan of drum solos. They put me to sleep. So some cool shit inside of songs. Stewart Copeland never did drum solos but you knew the fucking drummer was there. People know who he is and he never solo wanked on carnival rides.

[fraroc]

I hate overproduced shit. Tommy. Where's the drumming? I see the roller coaster but where's the fast foot work and drum rolls? Frankly Charlie Watts can smoke this guy with just a simple kit playing inside of Rolling Stones songs. I'm not a fan of drum solos. They put me to sleep. So some cool shit inside of songs. Stewart Copeland never did drum solos but you knew the fucking drummer was there. People know who he is and he never solo wanked on carnival rides.

Simple, he's not trying to be Alex Van Halen. He's Tommy Lee. "theatrics and debauchery" are his middle names. Like I said, It's not Tommy's skill that impresses me, but his ingenuity and crazy ideas.

[Fairwrning]

I like Motley but Vince Neils voice just sucks live..

[sadaist]

Like I said, It's not Tommy's skill that impresses me, but his ingenuity and crazy ideas.

He has a rather large penis too.

[sadaist]

OK....taking the fan on a ride with the drums was pretty fucking kick ass. How fun would that be? LOL! Lucky motherfucker.

[fraroc]

He has a rather large penis too.

And that.

[fourthcoming]

I was at the same show last night. Snooze fest. Same lame set from Crue. Vince Neil is done.....can't sing anymore. They played that lame version of Shout At the devil that wasn't the original. Drum solo.....on the roller coaster...big deal...I took a piss during it. I don't go to a Motley crue and kiss show to see some 50+ yr old act and talk like a wigga teenager and play drums upside down to techno blasting from the speakers. Kiss.....they sounded pretty damn good. paul is definitely losing some of his voice but it had to happen eventually. He has had that amazing voice for so long. Same old set from Kiss also.....War machine was the only tune they haven't played in forever. I have been fortunate to see both of these bands numerous times. There is no need to ever see either one again. Can't tell you how bored I was at this show. How many times can I see motley play S.O.S., Home sweet home....which was played rediculously slow, Dont go away mad......They played one song from Shout and one song from Too Fast. And they opened with Saints of Los Angeles? Lame.....time for the Crue to either be more creative or hang it up. The new song "Sex" sucked too. Place was packed so i'll give them that.....definitely more Kiss fans. This was not your father's 1985 Motley show....and damn sure wasn't a Halen show. BORING!!! P.S. someone on Kiss's sound crew needs to sit in the audience and hear how rediculously loud the bass sounds....or at least sounded last night. Could barely hear the guitars when they weren't soloing.

[Nitro Express]

Vince moved around ok, but he had a visible cast on his ankle.

Mick Mars was a houseplant on stage. He didn't shout out to the audience or anything, he just stood in one place the entire show. His playing was fucking AMAZING though.

Mick Mars looks like he is from Mars. He's a good player. He proves if you are a master at what you do, you don't need bullshit gimmicks. Frankly he's the best musician in that band.

[Nitro Express]

Simple, he's not trying to be Alex Van Halen. He's Tommy Lee. "theatrics and debauchery" are his middle names. Like I said, It's not Tommy's skill that impresses me, but his ingenuity and crazy ideas.

Pretty much. You are paying for a show. They give a good one.

[fourthcoming]

Nick Mars looks like he is from Mars. He's a good player. He proves if you are a master at what you do, you don't need bullshit gimmicks. Frankly he's the best musician in that band.

Mick Mars played his ass off last night. The band was tight....Tommy Lee is one of my favorite drummers..he is definitely an underrated drummer....I think he has tons of skill.....just can't stand his on stage persona.....so dumb and childish. Vince sucks live and Nikki is definitely the brains behind the band....writes everything but all he plays is the E string live most of the time. Yes Crue had a couple of hot chicks on stage.....don't kid yourself....they were doing alot of the singing and Motley's choruses and backgrounds are DEFINITELY tracked in.

[Matt White]

Frankly he's the best musician in that band.

"ONLY" musician in that band!!!

[twonabomber]

And that.

don't forget the Hep C...

[twonabomber]

War machine was the only tune they haven't played in forever.

they played War Machine on the Kiss/Poison tour a few years back.

[sadaist]

Mick Mars looks like he is from Mars. He's a good player. He proves if you are a master at what you do, you don't need bullshit gimmicks. Frankly he's the best musician in that band.

He is the ONLY musician in that band. The others are 99% flair. Which is fine. Some reason they work together.

[Dave's Bitch]

Motley Crue need to add Knock em' dead kid to the set.Simple song but it kicks some serious ass.I would love to hear Kiss add Nowhere to run.That is a bad ass song

[binnie]

I think it's unfair to label the other three members of Motley Crue aside from Mick as not being 'musicians'. Tommy Lee is a very good drummer.

Vince and Nikki, fair point. But Nikki did do the bulk of the writing, and whilst the songs are hardly sophisticated they were memorable.

[Nitro Express]

He is the ONLY musician in that band. The others are 99% flair. Which is fine. Some reason they work together.

It works. They have good songs and put on a good show. Even as old fucks.

[Seshmeister]

But I'm surprised on how many people hated the Drum Coaster...I understand that the music he's playing to is one of the shittiest music I have ever heard, but the spectacle we got made it so fucking worth it. Some people said that Tommy Lee is a disgrace to rock n' roll, and that they hope he falls from the drum kit and dies. Seriously, you want him to die because of the choice of music he used?

Nothing more stupid than people who take party music incredibly seriously like a religion...

[Seshmeister]

I was at the same show last night. Snooze fest. Same lame set from Crue. Vince Neil is done.....can't sing anymore. They played that lame version of Shout At the devil that wasn't the original. Drum solo.....on the roller coaster...big deal...I took a piss during it. I don't go to a Motley crue and kiss show to see some 50+ yr old act and talk like a wigga teenager and play drums upside down to techno blasting from the speakers. Kiss.....they sounded pretty damn good. paul is definitely losing some of his voice but it had to happen eventually. He has had that amazing voice for so long. Same old set from Kiss also.....War machine was the only tune they haven't played in forever. I have been fortunate to see both of these bands numerous times. There is no need to ever see either one again. Can't tell you how bored I was at this show. How many times can I see motley play S.O.S., Home sweet home....which was played rediculously slow, Dont go away mad......They played one song from Shout and one song from Too Fast. And they opened with Saints of Los Angeles? Lame.....time for the Crue to either be more creative or hang it up. The new song "Sex" sucked too. Place was packed so i'll give them that.....definitely more Kiss fans. This was not your father's 1985 Motley show....and damn sure wasn't a Halen show. BORING!!! P.S. someone on Kiss's sound crew needs to sit in the audience and hear how rediculously loud the bass sounds....or at least sounded last night. Could barely hear the guitars when they weren't soloing.

This review screams out 'Why did you go?'

You got exactly what you expected and what you had seen many times before and you don't like it?

Well don't do it then.

[Nitro Express]

Nothing more stupid than people who take party music incredibly seriously like a religion...

Say Sammy Hagar is a better frontman than David Lee Roth and you will see how seriously people in here take their party music. I think it is a religion.

[ELVIS]

They should stand Mick Mars on his head...

That would be cool...

uhh hu h hu u h uhuuh uh hu hu huhu hu huhuh

[binnie]

This review screams out 'Why did you go?'

You got exactly what you expected and what you had seen many times before and you don't like it?

Well don't do it then.

To be fair, there had been rumours circulating that Crue were going to do a 27 minutes jazz-rock odyssey about the life of Marie-Antoinette in a 6/8 time signature and fronted by Vince Neil playing the harpsicord........

[Seshmeister]

They should stand Mick Mars on his head...

That would be cool...

uhh hu h hu u h uhuuh uh hu hu huhu hu huhuh

You may be on to something you sick man.

It's really freaky just how little he moves on stage, it's almost like one of those street performer statues.

[fourthcoming]

This review screams out 'Why did you go?'

You got exactly what you expected and what you had seen many times before and you don't like it?

Well don't do it then.

I had seen both bands before and had great times. My girl wanted to go so I said what the hell.....the show is late Sept. it's an outdoor venue, weather was going to be beautiful and it was.....so fuck it....I'll go. I don't know if it's a combination of seeing the same groups one too many times and me getting old and for that matter everyone else in the crowd getting old....but i think I will be limiting my future concerts to must sees only. Hope that answers your question for why I went.....and not for anything.....your line about stupid people taking party music so seriously.........I don't get it......why do some people in here have to act so damn high and mighty........like Van halen isn't party music? Let me get you a step stool so you don't fall coming down from your high horse. Maybe Binnie can lend a hand and help you down. All in fun ladies......don't get too pissy with your re-buttals.

[Seshmeister]

To be fair, there had been rumours circulating that Crue were going to do a 27 minutes jazz-rock odyssey about the life of Marie-Antoinette in a 6/8 time signature and fronted by Vince Neil playing the harpsicord........

You're a naughty one...
Saucy Jack...
You're a haughty one, saucy Jack.

[Seshmeister]

I had seen both bands before and had great times. My girl wanted to go so I said what the hell.....the show is late Sept. it's an outdoor venue, weather was going to be beautiful and it was.....so fuck it....I'll go. I don't know if it's a combination of seeing the same groups one too many times and me getting old and for that matter everyone else in the crowd getting old....but i think I will be limiting my future concerts to must sees only. Hope that answers your question for why I went.....and not for anything.....your line about stupid people taking party music so seriously.........I don't get it......why do some people in here have to act so damn high and mighty........like Van halen isn't party music? Let me get you a step stool so you don't fall coming down from your high horse. Maybe Binnie can lend a hand and help you down. All in fun ladies......don't get too pissy with your re-buttals.

I just knew a girl was going to get the blame...

I wasn't referring to you with the 'stupid people' thing, that was addressed at the quote in my post about people wanting Tommy Lee to die because he played some non rock.

My recommendation for a gig like that is to drink heavily beforehand and squeeze some nostalgia out of it but I realize that isn't always an option logistically. I once drove to an Aerosmith gig and found it pretty boring in the cold light of sobriety and 'seen it all before fatigue' so I do recognize what you were saying.

[fourthcoming]

I just knew a girl was going to get the blame...

I wasn't referring to you with the 'stupid people' thing, that was addressed at the quote in my post about people wanting Tommy Lee to die because he played some non rock.

My recommendation for a gig like that is to drink heavily beforehand and squeeze some nostalgia out of it but I realize that isn't always an option logistically. I once drove to an Aerosmith gig and found it pretty boring in the cold light of sobriety and 'seen it all before fatigue' so I do recognize what you were saying.

Actually....your right on the money....I split a 6 pack with my girl simply because there wasn't enough time. Came home from work, jumped in the shower and took off for the show. As we were inside I remember asking myself if I would be enjoying th show more if I was heavily intoxicated. I hardly drink anymore anyway and had to drive.....so yea....maybe you were right.....Why the hell did I go?.....

[Seshmeister]

Funnily enough last time I saw Crue I was in a rush and didn't have enough time to prepare properly either.

I actually missed the drum kit roller coaster thing because I was away at the bar buying a bunch of drinks to get myself in the proper frame of mind...

[fourthcoming]

Funnily enough last time I saw Crue I was in a rush and didn't have enough time to prepare properly either.

I actually missed the drum kit roller coaster thing because I was away at the bar buying a bunch of drinks to get myself in the proper frame of mind...

That's as good a time as any. I'm a drummer and drum solos do absolutely nothing for me....especially a techno-laden one. For someone to say tommy Lee should die for it is rediculous.....I just thought it was boring. Unfortunately the venue I was at.....Jones beach....does not serve alcohol! The nerve of them! The only place to buy alcohol is in a V.I.P. section at the extreme right of the stage in a tented area where you can't even see the stage.

[sadaist]

It works. They have good songs and put on a good show. Even as old fucks.

Totally. I wasn't trying to slam the other 3 guys at all. Crue for a while were tied with VH as my favorite band. Still in my top 5 all time. They were my very 1st concert & very 1st concert t-shirt. And I'm one of the few here that totally dig Theatre Of Pain. But Mick could be playing many different genres of music no problem. Mick would be playing guitar no matter how rich or famous he ever became.. Vince, Tommy, Nikki got into it for the pussy & drugs. lol true story

Sads top 5

Van FUCKING Halen

The Police
Megadeth
Motley Crue
Def Lep


As a young teenager, I would grab every & any rock magazine that had something about Motley in it. The stories back in the mid 80's were pure debauchery. Always crazy interviews. I remember Nikki saying in one that if you listen carefully to 10 seconds to love, you hear squishing noises in the background. That sound is allegedly the band fucking a couple of really fat girls. HAHAHA! When you're 12-13-14 years old, Crue stories were like heroin. Couldn't get enough.

[Seshmeister]

I found out recently my pals wife genuinely thought the Crue song was called 'Too FAT for love' and sang that along to it.