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    Wink During Obama's Second Term, Will He...

    ...blame everything on the guy who occupied the White House the previous 4 years?
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    Noooooooooooooooo....He'll work towards bankruptying the country, get us into 2 unfunded wars, suspend civil liberties, illegaly seize guns.....oh wait....that was the other guy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt White View Post
    Noooooooooooooooo....He'll work towards bankruptying the country, get us into 2 unfunded wars, suspend civil liberties, illegaly seize guns.....oh wait....that was the other guy!!!
    Ummm, lets see...6 trillion in new debt and with under his own budget he gets us to 20 trillion by the time he leave office in 4 years, we currently are in 1 unfunded war under President Ego, President Ego signed the Patriot Act when it came back up and wants to place drones in the skys over the USA....oh wait....there really isn't a difference between the two.

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    Maybe conservatards will stop repeating the same ol' echo chamber bullshit in the 2nd term. That'd be refreshing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baru911 View Post
    Ummm, lets see...6 trillion in new debt and with under his own budget he gets us to 20 trillion by the time he leave office in 4 years, we currently are in 1 unfunded war under President Ego, President Ego signed the Patriot Act when it came back up and wants to place drones in the skys over the USA....oh wait....there really isn't a difference between the two.
    UH HUhu hu huHUhh ......how big of a swing was that???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt White View Post
    UH HUhu hu huHUhh ......how big of a swing was that???

    President Ego signed the Patriot Act just like Bush. President Ego has kept the war going just like Bush. President Ego is spending money at a very similar rate as the Bush Administration did. He and Bush are very similar in the way the act. Oh, and lets not forget Bush started Guantanamo to house terrorist and President Ego kept it open even though he stated he would close it in his first year in office. He's about to start his second term. Did he mean the first year of his second term and he misspoke?

    Spouting some platitude and posting a picture along with it doesn't really change how similar they are when you start looking at facts and their actions in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Maybe conservatards will stop repeating the same ol' echo chamber bullshit in the 2nd term. That'd be refreshing.
    It will be about as refreshing as not having to hear it was Bush's fault anymore. President Ego bought the ticket for his second term and now gets to be remembered on how well his policies help or hinder the USA from this point forward. You can't blame the other guy 5, 6, 7, or 8 years down the road into your own administration if your policies are failures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baru911 View Post
    Ummm, lets see...6 trillion in new debt and with under his own budget he gets us to 20 trillion by the time he leave office in 4 years, we currently are in 1 unfunded war under President Ego, President Ego signed the Patriot Act when it came back up and wants to place drones in the skys over the USA....oh wait....there really isn't a difference between the two.
    Can you name a president that didn't have a big ego?

    Of course these people are all sociopathic egomaniacs, that goes with the job.

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    Come on! Hillbilly Fuck-whits don't have "egos!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by baru911 View Post
    President Ego signed the Patriot Act just like Bush. President Ego has kept the war going just like Bush. President Ego is spending money at a very similar rate as the Bush Administration did. He and Bush are very similar in the way the act. Oh, and lets not forget Bush started Guantanamo to house terrorist and President Ego kept it open even though he stated he would close it in his first year in office. He's about to start his second term. Did he mean the first year of his second term and he misspoke?

    Spouting some platitude and posting a picture along with it doesn't really change how similar they are when you start looking at facts and their actions in office.
    Funny I thought "Ego" stopped the war in Iraq..........my bad, Dubya declared Mission Accomplished so I guess Dubya gets the credit for ending that illegal war
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Funny I thought "Ego" stopped the war in Iraq..........my bad, Dubya declared Mission Accomplished so I guess Dubya gets the credit for ending that illegal war
    the war was not illegal...why do you say it was? Really, I want an explanation.

    The war was winding down on Bush's watch, in large part because of the "surge." both bush and Obama can take credit for ending the war.

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    Oh, I don't know, B...........maybe because.......






























    He lied about the pretext that started the fucking thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt White View Post
    Noooooooooooooooo....He'll illegally seize guns.....oh wait....that was the other guy!!!

    Obama? Isn't he the guy that's handing them out to Mexican cartels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Can you name a president that didn't have a big ego?

    Of course these people are all sociopathic egomaniacs, that goes with the job.
    Or any politician for that matter. You have to think very highly of yourself nowadays to survive a campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    Obama? Isn't he the guy that's handing them out to Mexican cartels?
    Yep, he personally handed them out and took the cash for them.......not the Phoenix office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in a botched sting operation

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Maybe conservatards will stop repeating the same ol' echo chamber bullshit in the 2nd term. That'd be refreshing.
    But sadly about as likely as a Xmas Eve snowstorm here in Hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadBrian View Post
    the war was not illegal...why do you say it was? Really, I want an explanation.

    The war was winding down on Bush's watch, in large part because of the "surge." both bush and Obama can take credit for ending the war.
    Sorry to interrupt, but George Orwell is calling. You're needed in the Ministry of Truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Yep, he personally handed them out and took the cash for them.......not the Phoenix office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in a botched sting operation

    Fuck that. George W got (and still gets) shit for every damn thing anyone under him did. Obama should be no different. He should have shitcanned Holder a long time ago. Worthless AG. Dangerous in fact. Worse than worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Maybe conservatards will stop repeating the same ol' echo chamber bullshit in the 2nd term. That'd be refreshing.
    As soon as you drop the word inherited from your lexicon.






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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    Fuck that. George W got (and still gets) shit for every damn thing anyone under him did. Obama should be no different. He should have shitcanned Holder a long time ago. Worthless AG. Dangerous in fact. Worse than worthless.
    Yes, Obama IS responsible for his shitty cabinet picks (see my thread from yesterday to help him do better in Round Two).

    But that doesn't change the fact that he was left an ENORMOUS pile of Chimpshit that nobody could have possibly cleaned up in just 4 years, even WITH a proper economic team. It's a sad law of physics that it always takes longer to put something back together than it did to break it.

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    Oh shut the fuck up and shove the enormous pile of chimpshit up your ass, FORD, and stop trying to keep that bullshit lie alive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Oh shut the fuck up and shove the enormous pile of chimpshit up your ass, FORD, and stop trying to keep that bullshit lie alive...
    Chimpy gave away billions of dollars he didn't have in tax "cuts" to people who didn't need them, and most of whom weren't paying taxes in the first place. Then he spent trillions on two useless illegal wars, some of which was literally left lying around in Iraq for terrorists to stick in their pockets and buy weapons with, which were then used against US troops. And he didn't even bother writing those useless illegal wars into the goddamn budget, which means there wasn't a record of how much money was being wasted on them, until Obama was President, and put them on the books.

    So where is the lie, Nurse Presley?

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    Honestly folks. I think the whole political process in Washington is broke. Too many people are willing to be bought and ethics and character be dammed. They buy off the people with some entitlements and then serve the military contractors and banks. What the entitlements to buy the votes cost is chicken feed compared to what the big boys steal.

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    In future elections it's the hispanic vote that will determine who the president is going to be. Obama got that and it put him over the top. That was the changing factor even when the hispanics called his ass out on television over fast and furious. Obama understands one important thing. Most people can be bought. If you can buy them off, they kind of forget about honesty and character and things like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post

    So where is the lie, Nurse Presley?
    It's all bullshit lies and you only add to the problem by picking and chosing who to blame what on...

    Obama knew what he was getting into when he was elected the first time, and you parroting his blame Bush bullshit is just that, bullshit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    It's all bullshit lies and you only add to the problem by picking and chosing who to blame what on...

    Obama knew what he was getting into when he was elected the first time, and you parroting his blame Bush bullshit is just that, bullshit...
    As I said, Obama is responsible for picking a shitty economic team in his cabinet. Timmy the Elf needs to be sacked immediately.

    But you have to remember that Clinton really hadn't undone the mess that Poppy Bush (gee, is there a pattern here?) left him in his first term either. But in the second term, he ended up leaving with a surplus.

    These things take time. And Chimpy's pile of shit was much larger than his father's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Oh shut the fuck up and shove the enormous pile of chimpshit up your ass, FORD, and stop trying to keep that bullshit lie alive...




    Easy on the coffee man. Still have a lot more day to tear Ford up. Don't waste it all in one thread.

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    Also, Obama won because he got his base out to vote. Mitt failed to get the Republican base to the polls. It's looking like a lot of the registered Republicans just stayed home.

    I think those are the two variables. Get more of the hispanic base and get more of the Republican base to the polls. Also, incumbent presidents are just plain hard to beat. It rarely happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Yes, Obama IS responsible for his shitty cabinet picks (see my thread from yesterday to help him do better in Round Two).

    But that doesn't change the fact that he was left an ENORMOUS pile of Chimpshit that nobody could have possibly cleaned up in just 4 years, even WITH a proper economic team. It's a sad law of physics that it always takes longer to put something back together than it did to break it.
    Here's some shit that needs to go. The Patriot Act and the TSA. Like I said Washington DC is a cess pool that nobody seems to be able to clean up. Sometimes I think we should all just walk away from that stinking pit.

    DC sucks so bad not even Satan likes it. It's actually worse than hell is.

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    But it's also a fraud like FORD has pointed out...

    The voting machines are suspect no matter who wins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    But it's also a fraud like FORD has pointed out...

    The voting machines are suspect no matter who wins...
    Technically true, since there's no way to prove a vote either way. But since the electro-fraud machines are all owned by right wing Republican operatives (literally the Romney family themselves in one case) it is highly unlikely that they would be rigged to favor Obama, or any other Demoncratic candidate.

    Well at least in the General Election. There's still some questions about the last two Demoncratic primaries in New Hampshire. But that would fall under the old "Nixon dirty tricks committee" designation. You rig the machines in favor of the Demoncrat who YOU want to see in November, because you think your guy will beat him. Or her, as was the case in the 2008 primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baru911 View Post
    President Ego signed the Patriot Act just like Bush. President Ego has kept the war going just like Bush. President Ego is spending money at a very similar rate as the Bush Administration did. He and Bush are very similar in the way the act. Oh, and lets not forget Bush started Guantanamo to house terrorist and President Ego kept it open even though he stated he would close it in his first year in office. He's about to start his second term. Did he mean the first year of his second term and he misspoke?

    Spouting some platitude and posting a picture along with it doesn't really change how similar they are when you start looking at facts and their actions in office.
    Firstly, who the fuck is "President Ego?" What fucking president DOESN'T have an ego?

    Secondly, you can stop with the bullshit on the wars and acting like Obama (Ego I presume) was or is just like Bush when Obama fully extricated our forces from that shithole called Iraq. Obama started no wars, and very much limited our presence in the Libyan Campaign, which is ultimately the most successful conflict we've had since almost no American troops are on the ground there and the Libyans themselves did the dirty work. And if you fail to understand what the fuck you are talking about, like usual, maybe you can read some Wiki entries on Iraq, or pick up Thomas Rick's excellent Fiasco. It's a nice read, well, not a 'nice' read. Then you might understand the differences between using mechanized, armored forces to blitz a country like Iraq while underfunding the poorly conceived, costly and manpower-intensive occupation on behalf of a hostile POS gov't of ex-militia terror thugs, and waging a counterinsurgency and counterterrorist campaigns or a very limited air campaign fought by a coalition on behalf of a popular uprising where few combat sorties were flown by U.S. pilots. It's a slight nuance that seems to escape literalist, linear thinking fellows as yourself. It is a distinction worth mentioning however...

    Obama hasn't closed GITMO largely because no one wants their prisoners back. He has greatly reduced the population of residents and there have been efforts to actually discern who might be an actual terrorist and who was simply picked up and sold to the U.S. military in Afghanistan because they had been in the wrong place at the wrong time or pissed someone off. Unfortunately he did resign The (un)Patriot Act. But I doubt that really offends you much. But your posts come off in the redundant category of pissing and moaning about what Obama has failed to achieve, but then you piss and moan when he does achieve something, like Obamacare. But considering he's up against a Congressional Leadership that essentially pledged to get nothing done in order to insure his defeat, all while getting paid large government salaries in the big government they supposedly hate, you might actually offer up some criticism of them as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadBrian View Post
    the war was not illegal...why do you say it was? Really, I want an explanation.

    The war was winding down on Bush's watch, in large part because of the "surge." both bush and Obama can take credit for ending the war.
    Funny, but you and Ed Schultz agree on something...

    But the war wasn't really "winding down," as much as it was pissing itself out. "The Surge" certainly wasn't Bush's idea, and it was formulated almost exclusively by people who had been against the invasion of Iraq to begin with. And there's no way a hypothetical third Bush term would have completely withdrawn from Iraq...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Oh, I don't know, B...........maybe because.......






























    He lied about the pretext that started the fucking thing
    You mean the same Intelligent Agency and CIA that labeled the attack in Libya a protest were the same that said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

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    It's going to be four more years of the same shit except with a big investigation on Bengazi and the Republicans trying to take Obama down with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    As soon as you drop the word inherited from your lexicon.






    (like that? Been wanting to use the word lexicon for a while. Makes me sound smart. Thanks bro )


    Don't thank me yet... It MIGHT have, had I actually used the word "inherited" in my post. Instead, it makes you look like a dummy trying to use a big word out of context. From the echo chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwame k View Post
    Oh, I don't know, B...........maybe because.......

    He lied about the pretext that started the fucking thing
    Having a faulty pretext does not equate to an illegal war. Bush had approval from both houses of Congress, including from one Senator Joe Biden (though he lied his ass off in the VP debate and said he was against it ). Therefore, the war WAS NOT illegal. Case closed.

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    So lying about the reason to go to war........lying to Congress and the American people, using the war to make profits for key members of your Administration is legal.

    Gotcha, we should give him a medal or something

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    Oh and having your VP's office out a CIA spy because you were pissed about her husband exposing the truth about yellow cake is cool to......by your way of thinking

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