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    Israel takes steps to call up 75,000 reserves

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    JERUSALEM – Two rockets landed in open fields outside of Jerusalem after air raid sirens sounded in the city sending Israelis running for cover.

    It is the first time the holy city has ever been targeted by rockets fired by Gaza militants. There does not appear to be any damage, or any reports of causalities.
    Israeli media say the rocket fell north of Jerusalem, as witnesses say they saw a stream of smoke in Mevasseret Zion, a suburb.

    Israeli police spokeswoman Micky Rosenfeld said the rocket landed in an open area near Gush Ezion, a collection of Jewish settlements in the West Bank southeast of the city.

    In Gaza, Hamas militants said they had attacked Jerusalem. The attack marks a major escalation, both for its symbolism and its distance from the Palestinian territory. Jerusalem had been thought to be beyond the range of Gaza rocket squads.

    “We are sending a short and simple message: There is no security for any Zionist on any single inch of Palestine and we plan more surprises,” Abu Obeida, a spokesman for the Hamas militant wing said.
    Militants already have fired rockets into the southern outskirts of Tel Aviv on Thursday. The rocket attacks have not hurt anyone, but have caused panic.

    Lt. Col. Avital Leibovich, a military spokeswoman, said the Israeli military had called 16,000 reservists to duty on Friday as it geared up for a possible ground offensive
    She said the army had authority to draft an additional 14,000 soldiers. She would not say where the troops were deployed.

    Egypt's prime minister rushed to the aid of the Gaza Strip's Hamas rulers Friday in the midst of an Israeli offensive there, calling for an end to the operation, as Palestinian rocket squads aimed at Tel Aviv for a second straight day. The visit served as a boost of solidarity for the Hamas militants who have vowed to resist the Israeli offensive.

    Hopes of even a brief cease-fire were dashed after both sides accused the other of violating a proposed cease-fire during a visit by the prime minister of Egypt to Gaza.
    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had told Egypt that Israel was pre
    pared to suspend its military offensive in the Gaza Strip during Prime Minister Hisham Kandil's three-hour visit there Friday.
    However, Israel later said Hamas did not honor the deal, saying rockets fired from Gaza had hit several sites in southern Israel as Kandil was in the enclave.

    Israel strongly denied it had carried out any attacks from the time Kandil entered Gaza, though Gaza militants claimed Israel had continued strikes during the visit.
    Along the border Friday, Israeli tanks, armored vehicles and military bulldozers were parked in neat rows. Leibovich said all options are open, “including a ground operation.”
    Netanyahu said the army was hitting Hamas hard with what he called surgical strikes, and warned of a "significant widening" of the Gaza operation. Israel will "continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people," said Netanyahu, who is up for re-election in January.
    "We will continue the attacks and we will increase the attacks, and I believe we will obtain our objectives," said Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz, Israel's military chief.

    An Israeli ground offensive could be costly to both sides. In the last Gaza war, Israel devastated large areas of the territory, setting back Hamas' fighting capabilities but also paying the price of increasing diplomatic isolation because of a civilian death toll numbering in the hundreds.
    The current round of fighting is reminiscent of the first days of that three-week offensive against Hamas. Israel also caught Hamas off-guard then with a barrage of missile strikes and threatened to follow up with a ground offensive.

    However, much has also changed since then.
    Israel has improved its missile defense systems, but is facing a more heavily armed Hamas. Israel estimates militants possess 12,000 rockets, including more sophisticated weapons from Iran and from Libyan stockpiles plundered after the fall of Muammar Qaddafi's regime there last year.
    Netanyahu, who has clashed even with his allies over the deadlock in Mideast peace efforts, appears to have less diplomatic leeway than his predecessor, Ehud Olmert, making a lengthy military offensive harder to sustain.

    What's more, regional alignments have changed dramatically since the last Gaza war. Hamas has emerged from its political isolation as its parent movement, the region-wide Muslim Brotherhood, rose to power in several countries in the wake of last year's Arab uprisings, particularly in Egypt.
    Egypt recalled its ambassador to protest the Israeli offensive and has ordered his prime minister to lead a senior delegation to Gaza on Friday in a show of support for Hamas.

    At the same time, while relations with Israel have cooled since the toppling of longtime Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak, Morsi has not brought a radical change in Egypt's policy toward Israel.
    He has promised to abide by Egypt's 1979 peace deal with Israel and his government has continued contacts with Israel through its non-Brotherhood members.

    In all, 23 Palestinians have been killed, including 11 civilians, according to Gaza health officials, and 250 people wounded. Three Israelis were killed when a rocket hit an apartment building in southern Israel.
    The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

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    JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Defence Minister Ehud Barak sought government approval on Friday to mobilize up to 75,000 reserve troops for Israel's Gaza campaign, political sources said, in a sign of preparations for a possible ground offensive.

    The sources, speaking after Palestinian rockets were fired at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, said ministers were being polled by telephone by the cabinet secretary to approve the call-up.
    (Reporting by Maayan Lubell; Writing by Jeffrey Heller, Editing by Crispian Balmer)
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    Dammit Obama, why aren't you doing more !!
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    If Benny NuttyYahoo were any other Middle Eastern dictator, all the Repukes would be demanding a "regime change".

    What the fuck is the difference between this asshole and Saddam Hussein?
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    Henry KISSINGER. Former secretary of state. Current savant of the state of the world. Do not argue with Mr. Kissinger’s know-how. He already knows how.

    Middle East horror. Democratic party dissing Jerusalem. DC’s anti-Israel mentality. Obama, busy raising re-election funds, no time for beleaguered Netanyahu. The Oval Office attitude versus the Red Line. Iran’s oath to destroy our only friend in that part of the world.

    Reported to me, Henry Kissinger has stated — and I quote the statement word for word: “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”

    I repeat: “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”
    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/cind...5EtBjAxsWoFYoO

    I think I agree with Dr. Kissinger on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    If Benny NuttyYahoo were any other Middle Eastern dictator, all the Repukes would be demanding a "regime change".

    What the fuck is the difference between this asshole and Saddam Hussein?
    Hussein didn't have an arsenal of nuclear weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/cind...5EtBjAxsWoFYoO

    I think I agree with Dr. Kissinger on this one.
    Fuck that war criminal son of a bitch, fuck NuttyYahoo, and fuck the Rupert Murdoch Post.

    The world up there would be a better place without all three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Hussein didn't have an arsenal of nuclear weapons.
    Exactly.... but Chimpy used a made up lie that suggest he MIGHT have them to start a war. So why do we let the idiot who DOES have a nuclear arsenal bully whomever the fuck he wants to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Exactly.... but Chimpy used a made up lie that suggest he MIGHT have them to start a war. So why do we let the idiot who DOES have a nuclear arsenal bully whomever the fuck he wants to?
    Actually if I was the president of Iran I would pursue getting a nuclear weapon. They are great defensive weapons and Iran is in a rough neighborhood. People are less likely to attack you. If Iran was a nuclear power the US wouldn't be saber rattling it like it does. If Iraq had nukes, we would have never invaded them. Somehow the US gets all gung ho on attacking non nuclear powers but avoids attacking countries with nukes. Shit. Why has Israel lasted this long? They have nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Dammit Obama, why aren't you doing more !!
    Like what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Actually if I was the president of Iran I would pursue getting a nuclear weapon.
    They already are. Anyone one who thinks otherwise is batshit crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/cind...5EtBjAxsWoFYoO

    I think I agree with Dr. Kissinger on this one.
    Kissinger didn't seem so wise on Cambodia and his misactions contributed to the deaths of millions there...

    The only thing that will wipe Israel off the map would be its own stupid policies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadBrian View Post
    Like what?
    Sarcasm....

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    Let the propaganda begin...
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    Fucking bullshit. If your neighbour kept chucking grenades in your yard for 55 years, you wouldn't eventually retaliate?

    Oy Vey.
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    What if it wasn't my yard...?



    "When Israelis in the occupied territories now claim that they have to defend themselves, they are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing... You can't defend yourself when you're militarily occupying someone else's land. That's not defense. Call it what you like, it's not defense."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Kissinger didn't seem so wise on Cambodia and his misactions contributed to the deaths of millions there...

    The only thing that will wipe Israel off the map would be its own stupid policies...
    What will do Israel in is the Palestinians have more children than the Jews do. It may take longer than ten years but at the end of the day, the Palestinians will have the largest population. Also, Israel needs our support to keep going. It looks like the tide is turning there as well.

    The only way Israel is going to survive is to stop being a jewish state and be an inclusive state like the US is. Say everyone has equal citizenship no matter what their religion and race is. If they continue the exclusionary trip, they lose in the long-term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    What will do Israel in is the Palestinians have more children than the Jews do. It may take longer than ten years but at the end of the day, the Palestinians will have the largest population.
    They'll just import some more Jews from Russia and eastern Europe.

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    "Palestine" was never a country. Israel gives them land and what do they do? Bomb and terrorize Israel. ​FUCK THEM!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadBrian View Post
    "Palestine" was never a country.
    Neither was Israel..

    Israel gives them land and what do they do? Bomb and terrorize Israel. ​FUCK THEM!!!
    Really, a few scraps of massively overpopulated land with high unemployment with no future for the kids and constant attacks? Gee, how ever does terrorism start?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadBrian View Post
    "Palestine" was never a country. Israel gives them land and what do they do? Bomb and terrorize Israel. ​FUCK THEM!!!
    Your ability to simplify a complex situation is noteworthy...

    Good thing you have FAUX and CNN to guide you...



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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadBrian View Post
    "Palestine" was never a country. Israel gives them land and what do they do? Bomb and terrorize Israel. ​FUCK THEM!!!
    Holy fuck...talk about people talking out of their ass!!!

    Sent from my GS2, bitches
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Holy fuck...talk about people talking out of their ass!!!
    Try to argue that point, if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Your ability to simplify a complex situation is noteworthy...

    Good thing you have FAUX and CNN to guide you...
    Copying my quotes again, huh? You witless ass...

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    What ??

    You must be back on the shit again...

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    You know I'm not religious at all, but having been to Jerusalem and toured there, it's a fascinating place....

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the "Dome of the Rock" location claimed by all of the Christians, Jews and Muslims ??

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    It's claimed and occupied by Muslims currently...

    The Dome of the Rock will be destroyed during the next world war and a temple will be constructed...

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    The Dome of the Rock was built on the former location of Solomon's Temple. The Temple was destroyed in AD 70 when the Romans told the Jews to get the HELL out of Jerusalem. Centuries later, the Muslims thought it looked like a good piece of real estate, so they built their own mosque there, and declared it the third holiest site in their religion.

    Of course the problem with this is that the Jewish prophecies say that when the Messiah comes, there has to be a intact Temple built on the same location, and fundagelical Christians have interpreted vague biblical prophecies concerning my son, the Antichrist to be the "abomination of desolation" who dares to declare himself "God" while standing in this temple that currently doesn't exist.

    So that's why you have folks like John "Fat Bastard" Hagee cheering on Nutty Yahoo in his paranoid lunatic obsessions. They WANT world war III and an all out genocidal assault on Islam, because they think it's the only way that the Dome of the Rock can be conveniently taken out of the way, so that Temple 3.0 can be built, and JC can come back.

    Like JC couldn't find His way back to Jerusalem without one specific building being in one specific hole in the ground? Please....... For all the faith you mortals seem to have in my old friend, you sure don't give Him credit for much

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    So like I said, all three religions claim the same spot, right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    So like I said, all three religions claim the same spot, right ?
    Religions shouldn't get to "claim" real estate any fucking way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Religions shouldn't get to "claim" real estate any fucking way.
    Agreed, you know what I mean dammit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    So like I said, all three religions claim the same spot, right ?
    Just those three? Can Scientology claim it too? What about the Church Of The SubGenius, dammit?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Agreed, you know what I mean dammit....
    Yes, yes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    The Dome of the Rock was built on the former location of Solomon's Temple. The Temple was destroyed in AD 70 when the Romans told the Jews to get the HELL out of Jerusalem. Centuries later, the Muslims thought it looked like a good piece of real estate, so they built their own mosque there, and declared it the third holiest site in their religion.

    Of course the problem with this is that the Jewish prophecies say that when the Messiah comes, there has to be a intact Temple built on the same location, and fundagelical Christians have interpreted vague biblical prophecies concerning my son, the Antichrist to be the "abomination of desolation" who dares to declare himself "God" while standing in this temple that currently doesn't exist.

    So that's why you have folks like John "Fat Bastard" Hagee cheering on Nutty Yahoo in his paranoid lunatic obsessions. They WANT world war III and an all out genocidal assault on Islam, because they think it's the only way that the Dome of the Rock can be conveniently taken out of the way, so that Temple 3.0 can be built, and JC can come back.

    Like JC couldn't find His way back to Jerusalem without one specific building being in one specific hole in the ground? Please....... For all the faith you mortals seem to have in my old friend, you sure don't give Him credit for much
    Actually it was Harrod's temple that was destroyed in 70AD by Titus. The Romans used the loot to build the Colosseum in Rome. Still standing outside the Colosseum is the arch of Titus celebrating all the spoils they took from the temple. Harrod's temple was actually the third jewish temple on the site with the original Solomon's temple being destroyed long before Harrod enlarged the temple mount and built his grand temple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Religions shouldn't get to "claim" real estate any fucking way.
    It's just the real life version of the game Age of Empires. You can either conquer people with an army or brainwash them with religion. New religions like UFO cults and Earth Worship have come out in the 20th Century. If we get rid of Jesus and Mohammad people will just reinvent something else. It will never go away. What Ron L. Hubbard nailed is he made superstition look scientific for the modern age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Actually it was Harrod's temple.
    Isn't that a big shop in London?

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    I don't think the department store in London was built by the same Harrod.

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    Israel Sends Hamas 36-Hour Ultimatum


    Israel has delivered an ultimatum to Hamas through Egypt,according to which the IDF will widen its offensive in Gaza in 36 hours unless Hamas ceases firing rockets and smuggling arms into Gaza, IDF Radio reported Monday morning. Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz told the station that the time left before Israel steps up its attack can be measured in "hours, not days."

    "We are at a junction," he said. "Either we go toward a calm or toward a meaningful widening of the operation… including a possible move to achieve complete military decision."There are ongoing contacts between Israel and Hamas through intermediaries, IDF Radio said, but the gaps between the sides are still very large. According to reports in Cairo, Hamas demands a complete removal of the blockade on Gaza, an IDF commitment to stop crossing the security fence into Gaza and a cessation of targeted killings.

    Israel, for its part, demands that Hamas cease firing rockets into Israel for a period of "several years" and a cessation of arms smuggling into Gaza. Israel agrees to Hamas's demand that the Rafiah crossing into Egypt be opened, but refuses to open crossings into Israel.Hamas official Moussa Abu Marzuk said that Hamas will not agree to Israel's demands for a "security belt" on Gaza's eastern side, and a cessation of smuggling through the tunnels.Voice of Israel public radio quoted a senior source in Jerusalem as saying that the question of whether Egypt can broker a ceasefire will be resolved Monday. A senior minister said that Israel will have to agree to a certain relaxation of the blockade of Gaza in return for long-term quiet on the southern border.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...6#.UKp2HaU0sbU

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadBrian View Post
    Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz told the station that the time left before Israel steps up its attack can be measured in "hours, not days."



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