most people drown in summer. much more ice-cream is consumed in summer.
a statistical link can easily be made correlating ice-cream consumption and drowning.
the availability of guns is the problem!!!
Almost. That idiot was practically foaming at the mouth on Piers Morgan last night. How he thinks his appearance did anything except bolster the assertion that crazy people should not have access to guns is beyond me. The dude is a raving lunatic.
Bet ELBOW thinks he "really told" Piers, though...birds of a batshit crazy feather and all....
As much as a complete whoreish dolt Piers Morgan appears to be, he complete outclasses Alex Jones in any debate. That's why people like Jones meltdown into frothing children. Because they haven't a leg to stand on with literally dozens of alarmist and bogus conspiracy predictions that never came through. So he skirts discussion and acts like an ignorant, petulant child to show his low achieving, uneducated audience what a 'badass' he is...
Piss Morgan has class ??
I've heard it all now...
Locking this thread. I'm done with Elvis pissing up this thread with his conspiracy shit!
Reopened. Let's not soil the memory of children with flaming and speculative crap please. There's both a conspiracy thread for alternative lifestylers and a gun control thread for the political fallout of this tragedy...
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Another school shooting this morning, at Taft High School in Los Angeles....
At least 2 shot last time I checked....
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It was a shooting across the street from Taft HS...
Probably L.A gangs, you know, the thugs who will continue to have firearms long after Obomba passes sweeping legislation that affects only law-abiding citizens...
I am a law-abiding citizen, but I'm not worried, I'm pretty well protected...
I'd love to hear the last time, or the statics regarding, a shootout that took place between private citizens using assault rifles and drug gangs?
Concealed Carry Permit Holder Kills 5 East LA Gang Bangers
December 27, 2011
by rholmes
The story of Lance Thomas is amazing and ordinarily when we see a video like this, we would just post a link to it on our Facebook page for our fans. But this story is different and we wanted to make some observations.
First, this is a must watch video. Over the course of several years watchmaker Lance Thomas used deadly force to defend himself on multiple occasions. He has been shot five times – yet he refuses to be a victim:
After the first robbery attempt, Mr. Thomas took these steps:
He went to the range to practice – This is our mantra here at Whistling Pines Gun Club. Practice, Practice, Practice. The muscle memory developed from repeating the mechanics of firing will serve you well in the stress of a live fire situation, in fact, it will save your life.
He started going to the gym several times per week – This is an often overlooked aspect of firearm proficiency. You need to be able to handle your weapon with confidence. Strength and endurance are of critical importance. Also, you never know when a gun fight could turn into hand to hand combat.
He worked out gunfight tactics for every robbery scenario he could think of – This is of critical importance. What if there are multiple attackers? Who should you shoot first? Where can you take cover? Where are your firing lines and what about bystanders? (Our Defending your Home, Defensive Indexed Shooting and Shoot and Move classes will all help prepare you to defend yourself.)
He bought multiple guns and put them in strategic locations around his shop – This can be a little tricky depending on who has access to different areas of your facility. It worked for Lance but, we would prefer a handgun in your favorite carry with an easily accessible spare magazine. By practicing drawing from a belt or pocket carry you should be able to get your reaction time down to less than a second.
One aspect of this story should be of grave concern to anyone who watches this video. They state that Lance was only one of two Santa Monica residents to hold a concealed weapons permit. Every gang member that tried to rob his store was armed (one with a Mac 10) yet California consistently refuses to allow law abiding citizens to arm themselves. Here in Colorado we are much more fortunate.
We offer information on obtaining a Concealed Carry Permit in Colorado Springs and we offer Training Classes that will qualify you to obtain your Concealed Weapons License. Lets make Colorado Springs the safest city in America.
Lance talks about fighting back and in doing so is the willingness to kill and be killed. We think Lance Thomas is a hero. It’s tough decision to make but if more properly prepared people fought back, there would be fewer violent criminals on the street.
So he used pistols to shoot robbers? I said assault rifles and private citizens, not shop owners, you dolt!
In fact, even people defending their homes with firearms is a rare occurrence. And as I said before, my brother's house was robbed of several guns when he went on vacation - so in some cases having guns (or at least lots of 'em) can make you a target...
BTW, the article is filled with opinionated bullshit and factual errors. In fact, many people own guns in California and can "defend themselves." I have posters on other message boards sharing their massive gun collections that reside in California.
It also sounds like it was written by some Dirty Harry-wannabe vigilante psychopath. That's not "defending your family." That's defending your watch repair shop located in a really shitty part of town...
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Boy Uses Dad's AR-15 to Shoot Invader
Aug, 9, 2012
NORTH AUGUSTA — One man is dead and two are recovering after being shot by a gun store owner during a burglary of his business Thursday morning.
Aiken County sheriff's Sgt. Jason Feemster said three men drove into the side of the building shortly before 4 a.m. Thursday. The owner shot the three men, killing one.
Stephen Bayazes Jr., 57, told officers that he and his wife were asleep in an apartment at the back of the business, Guns & Ammo Gunsmith, 522 Edgefield Road, shortly before 4 a.m. when he awoke after hearing a loud crash and the activation of a silent alarm.
Bayazes grabbed an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle and found three men loading guns into a van that had crashed through the side wall of the store.
After hearing the men yell to kill him, Bayazes shot one 30-round magazine of .223-caliber bullets before retreating to his bedroom to reload, he later told officers.
As he left the room, Bayazes saw two men drive away in the van.
K’Raven Aude Goodwin, 20, of Eastover, S.C., was wounded and left behind at the gun
shop.
Aiken County Coroner Tim Carlton said Goodwin died of gunshot wounds shortly after arriving at Medical College of Georgia Hospital.
The two other suspects were found at Waffle House on Martintown Road, about three miles away.
The store owner said it was not the first time the store has been a target.
“If someone is breaking in your home or business, you have the right to defend yourself and not retreat,” the sergeant said.
So turns out one person is hospitalized, one refused treatment, and the suspect is in custody. My co-worker's kid is OK, too.
So, basically, you can't really find any instances where a family defended itself against a gang with assault weapons to confirm your nightmarish fantasy about evil gangs coming to get your "family"? You just keep posting rare occurrences of business owners shooting robbers--that are much hyped in gun circles...
He could just as easily been "alive" by relocating his business to a nicer part of town, instead of going through paramilitary training specifically to ambush the next set of inevitable robbers. He sounds he was to other shop owners as Dexter is to serial killers. He was obviously looking to kill somebody (assuming the story isn't heavily embellished or even made up), the fact they may deserve it to an extent doesn't make him any less of a psycho...
Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-10-2013 at 02:00 PM.
It was a student that did the shooting according to local reports... and it's in Kern Co. not L.A.... different Taft High.
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