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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    How does professing to a composite character made up by iron-age sheep herders make you at all a better person?
    Jesus is not a "composite character" and it doesn't "make" you anything...

    It's a comfirmation to God that you're willing to give His way a try...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Jesus is not a "composite character" and it doesn't "make" you anything...

    It's a comfirmation to God that you're willing to give His way a try...

    But then you kinda have to follow his word. His way is described in for example Matthew. Didn't see a gun chapter in there. Or did I miss it?
    The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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    The Bible isn't the Bill Of Rights...

    But in Matthew, Jesus said "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."

    Meaning in a sense that you're gonna make some enemies following me...

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    Well of course the Romans took away Jesus' Second Amendment rights in Judea, so they could nail him to the cross without a fight! Tyrants!

    Fortunately, the Romans were never able to take America 'cause of our guns!

    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 04-13-2013 at 12:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    The Bible isn't the Bill Of Rights...

    But in Matthew, Jesus said "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."

    Meaning in a sense that you're gonna make some enemies following me...
    But then what did he say about dealing with enemies?

    - Love your enemies
    - Do good to those who hate you
    - Bless those who curse you
    - Pray for those who abuse you
    - To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also
    - And from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either
    - Give to everyone who demands from you
    - And from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back

    So... when does he go out and buy a gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post
    But then what did he say about dealing with enemies?

    - Love your enemies
    - Do good to those who hate you
    - Bless those who curse you
    - Pray for those who abuse you
    - To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also
    - And from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either
    - Give to everyone who demands from you
    - And from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back

    So... when does he go out and buy a gun

    He doesn't. The guns-for-Jesus crowd is just another example of the perversion of christ's teachings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by envy_me View Post

    So... when does he go out and buy a gun
    He doesn't, obviously...

    But you're asking a simple question to a complex issue...

    Start here...



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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    He doesn't, obviously...

    But you're asking a simple question to a complex issue...

    Start here...



    That's another fucked up thing about Bible. You'll find pro and con for everything. It contradicts itself. And if you wanna be a rapist, you'll find pro-rape verses in there too.

    But the in the new testament, when Jesus comes into the pictuere there are basicly two rules. About the only one god and "don't do to others etc..." The whole philosphy radiates peace and being the bigger person. So no, nobody neutral will interpret Jesus as pro guns. Only people with pro gun agenda will twist it around to fit people who already made up their minds to have a gun but the christianity gets in the way.

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    You obviously didn't check out the link I provided...

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    "But to ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow. ...
    For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." Jeff Snyder
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    I bought a shotgun today

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    That video is even dumber and more obviously fake than a Pimpy O'Keefe scam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    That video is even dumber and more obviously fake than a Pimpy O'Keefe scam.
    Haven't watched it. Did they have a screaming embryo there... And Ninja Turtles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    You obviously didn't check out the link I provided...
    I was there and I looked through it. Didn't read the whole thing though. I knew we would never agree, I just find it so fascinating. Guns and Jesus... Wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    The Bible isn't the Bill Of Rights...

    But in Matthew, Jesus said "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."

    Meaning in a sense that you're gonna make some enemies following me...
    Gregory, must ye take things so literally?

    Ye assume that I was speaking of literal swords. But if this were true, then why did I tell Peter to put his sword away when the Romans came to arrest Me?

    Why did I say that he who lives by the sword will die by the sword? Or the gun, in the case of thy modern weapons.

    Verily I say unto thee, that the "sword" I was speaking of in the Scripture ye quoted, was a metaphorical sword of righteousness and it divided the truth of those who heard My message from the Pharisees and their followers who denied it.

    Don't feel too bad about it though. Even back in the day, there were some among My followers who also misinterpreted Me and thought I was talking about taking up literal swords against the Romans. This is where Judas started to go wrong, actually

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    Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA Board After Gun Control Defeat In Senate

    Posted: 04/18/2013 7:17 pm EDT

    WASHINGTON -- Adolphus Busch IV, heir to the Busch family brewing fortune, resigned his position on the board of the National Rifle Association on Thursday, writing in a letter to NRA President David Keene, "I fail to see how the NRA can disregard the overwhelming will of its members who see background checks as reasonable."

    The resignation, first reported by KSDK, came a day after the Senate rejected a series of amendments to a gun control bill, including a bipartisan deal to expand background checks for gun sales. The NRA had vigorously opposed all those measures.

    "The NRA I see today has undermined the values upon which it was established," wrote Busch, who also dropped his NRA membership. "Your current strategic focus clearly places priority on the needs of gun and ammunition manufacturers while disregarding the opinions of your 4 million individual members."

    Reached for comment on Busch's resignation, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told The Huffington Post, "We disagree with his characterization, but we wish him all the best."

    Busch joined the pro-gun organization in 1975 and has spoken before of his love of hunting. But the NRA has moved in a direction that Busch would not follow. "One only has to look at the makeup of the 75-member board of directors, dominated by manufacturing interests, to confirm my point. The NRA appears to have evolved into the lobby for gun and ammunition manufacturers rather than gun owners," he wrote.

    A spokesman for the NRA did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Huffington Post.

    Busch told Keene, "It disturbs me greatly to see this rigid new direction of the NRA." He singled out the gun lobby's reversal of its 1999 position in favor of universal background checks, as well as its opposition to an assault weapons ban and a ban on high-capacity magazines. "I am simply unable to comprehend how assault weapons and large capacity magazines have a role in your vision," he wrote.

    "Was it not the NRA position to support background checks when Mr. LaPierre himself stated in 1999 that NRA saw checks as 'reasonable'?" Busch wrote, referring to NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre's testimony at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in the wake of the 1999 Columbine High School shooting.

    At that time, LaPierre said the NRA believed that universal background checks were a "reasonable" choice. The group even took out ads in major newspapers that read, "We believe it's reasonable to provide for instant background checks at gun shows, just like gun stores and pawn shops."

    One week after that hearing, LaPierre rolled out the same argument that he would use 14 years later to attack President Barack Obama's gun safety proposals -- namely, that until the government prosecutes more background check violations, there is no point in expanding them.

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    Good call, Mr. Busch.

    Still not going to drink your shitty beer though

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    oops... wrong thread. nothing to see here...
    Last edited by FORD; 04-21-2013 at 02:28 PM.

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    I've been doing that a lot lately...

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    Police: Domestic dispute led to rampage that left 5 dead
    By KOMO Staff Published: Apr 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM PDT Last Updated: Apr 22, 2013 at 4:24 PM PDT


    FEDERAL WAY, Wash. -- Police say one man went on a rampage after a domestic dispute and fatally shot four people before being killed by police on Sunday at an apartment complex in Federal Way.

    At a news conference Monday, Federal Way Police Chief Brian Wilson said the shooting spree began about 9:30 p.m. when a man shot and killed his girlfriend in the unit where they lived together at Pinewood Apartments.

    Law enforcement sources say 28-year-old Dennis Clark allegedly then went out into the parking lot where he confronted two other men and shot them both to death. Neither victim knew the gunman or his girlfriend, and one was shot in the back while trying to run away, officials said.

    Wilson said Clark also used a shotgun to blast open the door and murder a 62-year-old man inside a neighboring apartment after the man who lived there yelled for someone to call 911.

    Investigators believe Clark may have been trying to kill witnesses, according to Wilson.

    Police officers raced to the scene and could hear shots still being fired as they arrived at the apartment complex.

    Wilson said they confronted Clark, who was armed, in a stairwell and fired several shots at him, wounding him, but he ran off. Officers regrouped and found the now injured Clark a short distance away on the ground in the parking lot near where two of the other bodies were located.

    As the officers approached, Clark reached for a handgun and refused the officers' orders to not grab the weapon, Wilson said. When he continued to reach for the gun, several officers opened fire, killing him.

    "I just heard a couple gunshots going off and then all of a sudden it was like an automatic weapon going off. Bop- Bop- Bop- Bop- Bop- Bop- like a war going on over here," said resident John Hoffmeister.

    Wilson said no officers were hurt, but it was not clear if Clark actually fired any shots at police.

    Clark had a history of domestic disputes in Seattle and Federal Way, but they did not result in criminal charges and he had a valid permit to carry a concealed weapon, according to Wilson.

    Those previous domestic violence incidents did not involve the woman who was murdered on Sunday. Wilson said Clark was listed in internal police records with a caution note due to his history violence and tendency to carry weapons.


    A total of eight officers fired their weapons during the confrontation on Sunday. All have been placed on administrative leave, per standard policy, as the investigation continues.

    The names of Clark's 25-year-old girlfriend, and three other men who were killed, have not been released.

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    Read that bolded part again, NRA shills.......

    That bill you stupid fucks paid to have eliminated in the Senate last week was meant for cases just like this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    The Bible isn't the Bill Of Rights...

    But in Matthew, Jesus said "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."

    Meaning in a sense that you're gonna make some enemies following me...
    No it's well accepted that Jesus was talking about his cock and this verse teaches us that the invisible sky daddy is totally into homo sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    No it's well accepted that Jesus was talking about his cock and this verse teaches us that the invisible sky daddy is totally into homo sex.
    I'm gonna have to go to church and repent just for reading that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    I'm gonna have to go to church and repent just for reading that...
    No worries...

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    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/stor...RhrWCM9dQ.cspx

    Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store

    Updated: 4/27/2012 12:26 pm | Published: 4/26/2012 8:20 pm

    SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A citizen with a gun stopped a knife wielding man as he began stabbing people Thursday evening at the downtown Salt Lake City Smith's store.

    Police say the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon. Smith's employee Dorothy Espinoza says, "He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."

    Espinoza says, the knife wielding man seriously injured two people. "There is blood all over. One got stabbed in the stomach and got stabbed in the head and held his hands and got stabbed all over the arms."

    Then, before the suspect could find another victim - a citizen with a gun stopped the madness. "A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him."

    By the time officers arrived the suspect had been subdued by employees and shoppers. Police had high praise for gun carrying man who ended the hysteria. Lt. Brian Purvis said, "This was a volatile situation that could have gotten worse. We can only assume from what we saw it could have gotten worse. He was definitely in the right place at the right time."

    Dozens of other shoppers, who too could have become victims, are also thankful for the gun carrying man. And many, like Danylle Julian, are still in shock from the experience. "Scary actually. Really scary. Five minutes before I walk out to my car. It could have been me."

    Police say right now they have no idea what caused the suspect to go on the dangerous rampage. (We will update as soon as we learn new information.)

    So far, police have not released the names of the suspect, the victims or the man who pulled the gun.



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