Giving birth

[envy_me]

Here is a thread for the side discussion from the suicide thread.

Have you given birth? Or your partner? Was it messy? How much did it hurt? Did it wreck your/her vagina? Was it a cesarean? Do you have to wear a tie to the beach? Needles in the spine?

[Northern Girl]

No kids, no pets, no plants...nothing I have to take care of but myself.

And I haven't done the greatest job of doing that either. LOL. I think I made the right choice.

[envy_me]

No kids, no pets, no plants...nothing I have to take care of but myself.

And I haven't done the greatest job of doing that either. LOL. I think I made the right choice.

I have always had respect for people with no kids. It just seems like more of a conscious choice. And it takes more to go against all the norms of society and go your own way.

[clarathecarrot]

I have never had children either however I have been or can be pregnant and or nursing and should consult my physician, before using this weight loss suppliment.

[Angel]

Here is a thread for the side discussion from the suicide thread.

Have you given birth? Or your partner? Was it messy? How much did it hurt? Did it wreck your/her vagina? Was it a cesarean? Do you have to wear a tie to the beach? Needles in the spine?

Gave birth 29 years ago, greatest experience of my life...the 72 hours of labour were worth it!

Times have changed...they would never allow a woman to go that long here now. Was it messy? Not as much as you would imagine, and you're on such a natural high you don't really notice...or care. Of course, if you get torn, I'm sure it's much worse.

As for wrecking the vagina...Kiegel exercises are a girl's best friend. It was about 4 months before my husband and I could have full intercourse. I did my Kiegels religiously while pregnant and after. As a result, I was tighter than a 14 year old virgin.

Yes, I had a needle...eventually. It's no different than a needle in the arm, and after 60 hours of contractions, was nothing. They stopped the drip a little later than they should have though, which was fine by me...painless delivery.

I assume by a tie you mean what we call a cover up. Nope. Didn't wear a bikini the first summer because of the stretch marks...but they had faded enough by the 2nd summer after he was born that I could go back to a bikini.

[Seshmeister]

The best bit of advice I could give a prospective father would be to wear a falconry glove at the birth to limit the damage she can do to you.

You can get one on Ebay for about $30.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...9043&_from=R40

[Seshmeister]

I have always had respect for people with no kids. It just seems like more of a conscious choice. And it takes more to go against all the norms of society and go your own way.

I wouldn't go that far.

The pluses to not having kids are the vast amount of money you save and all those thousands of hours of time you will never get back. Freedom to do pretty much anything you want without always having to work around them. Not having to spend your whole life in various levels of worry about their safety/happiness.

The downside is that on the most basic possible level you have failed as an organism.

[vandeleur]

The downside is that on the most basic possible level you have failed as an organism.

thats funny

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I wouldn't go that far.

The pluses to not having kids are the vast amount of money you save and all those thousands of hours of time you will never get back. Freedom to do pretty much anything you want without always having to work around them. Not having to spend your whole life in various levels of worry about their safety/happiness.

The downside is that on the most basic possible level you have failed as an organism.

great, now i'm a failed organism...

[Angel]

great, now i'm a failed organism...

Better than being a failed orgasm I suppose.

[envy_me]

If my success as an organism is defined by whether I fucked with or without a condom, then to hell with it

[Nitro Express]

The advantage of having and raising children well is you have someone to take care of you when you get old. I've just seen too many people put off relationships and put off children and they end up old and lonely people.

[twonabomber]

I wouldn't go that far.

The pluses to not having kids are the vast amount of money you save and all those thousands of hours of time you will never get back. Freedom to do pretty much anything you want without always having to work around them. Not having to spend your whole life in various levels of worry about their safety/happiness.

The downside is that on the most basic possible level you have failed as an organism.

I dunno.

I don't have kids. I have a nephew and a niece. The way I look at it...the family name will continue on, and my parents have grandchildren. That takes all the pressure off me.

The advantage of having and raising children well is you have someone to take care of you when you get old. I've just seen too many people put off relationships and put off children and they end up old and lonely people.

And that is why I try to be the "cool uncle," hopefully they will help me out later if I need it.

[ZahZoo]

The advantage of having and raising children well is you have someone to take care of you when you get old. I've just seen too many people put off relationships and put off children and they end up old and lonely people.

That's a double edged sword... they might help you "when" you get old... hell they also help you in getting old!!

I wouldn't trade having my 5 kids for all the peace and quiet in the universe!!

I'd figure if you don't have kids... you'd be both a failed organism and orgasm... I mean you failed to reproduce or your orgasm failed to reproduce... You're fucked either way!!

[Northern Girl]

Having kids doesn't guarantee you won't be lonely and that they will be there for you when you are old. I used to work in a nursing home and I saw plenty of things I won't get into...

When I get to the point where I can't take care of myself, I'll enjoy a lethal cocktail and call it quits. That would be my choice whether I have kids or not.

[Coyote]

I'm in no position to even think about becoming a dad yet...

Haven't lived enough.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Having kids doesn't guarantee you won't be lonely and that they will be there for you when you are old. I used to work in a nursing home and I saw plenty of things I won't get into...

When I get to the point where I can't take care of myself, I'll enjoy a lethal cocktail and call it quits. That would be my choice whether I have kids or not.

dealing with this right now with grampa...

[Hardrock69]

When I go to the store, and some child is wailing and screaming their fool head off, I laugh. I REALLY laugh.

It's not MY kid.

[envy_me]

When I go to the store, and some child is wailing and screaming their fool head off, I laugh. I REALLY laugh.

It's not MY kid.

Lol Do you have any kids?

[DLR Bridge]

Did it wreck your/her vagina?

I don't have a vagina and my 2 amazing kids did not "wreck" the vagina they came from.

“Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding” - Betty White

[Guitar Shark]

I wouldn't trade having my 5 kids for all the peace and quiet in the universe!!

This.

My wife and I have only two kids, not five (!!), but they are awesome and enrich my life in so many ways. There was a long time in my life when I hated the idea of being a parent, but now I have a hard time understanding how I ever felt that way.

[envy_me]

I don't have a vagina and my 2 amazing kids did not "wreck" the vagina they came from.

“Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding” - Betty White

Lol, the term "vagina wreckers" came from Nitro, lol.

When I did karate a guy kneed me in the vagina and that hurt like hell. This sentence sounds so wrong, but you get what I want to say.

[DLR Bridge]

Lol, the term "vagina wreckers" came from Nitro, lol.

I know, saw it in the suicide thread. Those things are like elastic bands. They snap back into shape.

[Dave's Bitch]

Giving birth is painful as hell but it is true when it is all done and you hold your child for the first time you forget all about it.

[vandeleur]

They snap back into shape.

Good ..... do I have to wait long . My kids are at school and the echo is driving me crazy

[envy_me]

I know, saw it in the suicide thread. Those things are like elastic bands. They snap back into shape.

I know. It's not that. One girl from work bursted down there, and they had to use the stitches on her. I don't want any needles there. They have to sedate me at the dentist before the needle. My poor flesh.

[vandeleur]

If any one ever notices a mrs vandeleur sign on am dead

[DLR Bridge]

I know. It's not that. One girl from work bursted down there, and they had to use the stitches on her. I don't want any needles there. They have to sedate me at the dentist before the needle. My poor flesh.

My wife had epidurals both times and I think she needed a little snip both times that got stitched up. If I remember correctly, the eppys wore off by the time she needed to be stitched a little and that was more painful than the births. I learned twice how much greater a threshold for pain my wife has than me. I woulda been screaming like a bitch. She's a trooper.

[DLR Bridge]

OOFA....thank God I'm a man.

We really have it pretty easy when you think about it. Relatively low maintenance equiptment, comparatively speaking and during child birth, all we have to do is cheer them on.

[envy_me]

We really have it pretty easy when you think about it. Relatively low maintenance equiptment, comparatively speaking and during child birth, all we have to do is cheer them on.

If I was giving birth I'd just want my man to shut up and go away. When I'm in pain I just want everybody to shut the fuck up. No cheering, no talking, just disappear. But I'm fantastic when I feel good :-)

[vandeleur]

I took my retirement on the front end......

Like how you worded that

[twonabomber]

Maybe I can be like Tony Randall and father a kid when I'm 72...and hopefully die before being a parent gets too difficult.

[envy_me]

My mom said she had a terrible delivery with my brother. It was her first child. He was a fantastic kid once he was born. When she gave birth to me it was a very easy delivery, but I was a terrible child. I'd never sleep or eat. I'd cry if I saw a stranger. I was just complicated. But it wasn't painful for her giving birth to me.

[DLR Bridge]

Definitely low maintenance equipment. My girlfriend had a c-section with her daughter....that was before i met her. We have been talking about trying to have a child this year. I will be 40 in July.....hope I still have the energy for a child!!! I took my retirement on the front end......enjoyed my youth as much as humanly possible and then some. Times are a changing though....my god daughter needs a cousin.

You'll find energy that you never knew you had, mostly out of necessity. Don't sweat it. Just be prepared to kiss your money g'bye.

[DLR Bridge]

My mom said she had a terrible delivery with my brother. It was her first child. He was a fantastic kid once he was born. When she gave birth to me it was a very easy delivery, but I was a terrible child. I'd never sleep or eat. I'd cry if I saw a stranger. I was just complicated. But it wasn't painful for her giving birth to me.

Second one is always smoother sailing.

[vandeleur]

Yeah , I get a dig if I say the second one was like shelling a pea.

[envy_me]

You guys should really read Caitlin Morans book How to be a woman. There is a chapter there about how she gave birth to her first child. I knew it was terrible giving birth, but she went through hell!! That poor woman.

[vandeleur]

You guys should really read Caitlin Morans book How to be a woman. There is a chapter there about how she gave birth to her first child. I knew it was terrible giving birth, but she went through hell!! That poor woman.

Kinda connected .. caitlin moran ...woooof I would

[Northern Girl]

BTW...I like kids...just wasn't in the cards for me...

The older I got the less I cared. I didn't sow my wild oats when I was young, so the older I got the less I wanted to be tied down.

[Nitro Express]

I dunno.

I don't have kids. I have a nephew and a niece. The way I look at it...the family name will continue on, and my parents have grandchildren. That takes all the pressure off me.




And that is why I try to be the "cool uncle," hopefully they will help me out later if I need it.

Your the guy who doesn't want to own a boat but loves going out on other people's boats. They get stuck with the expense and maintenance and you can show up and do the fun stuff. You can be the cool uncle that takes the kids out for a good time and then send them back to their parents who have to pay the bills and put the time in. LOL!