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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Looks that way. Indonesia even removed gold from the Federal Reserve Bank and deposited it into the US Treasury and allowed Kennedy to use it as collateral to back the US Treasury Notes Kennedy issued. Interesting enough after the assassination of John F. Kennedy the gold went back to the FED and the CIA ran an operation where the president of Indonesia was overthrown.

    If this is true it implicates the Federal Reserve and CIA. The bank and agency Kennedy was out to destroy. It's important to note the CIA was formed to coordinate intelligence only. It was not supposed to be running black operations at all. The agency went rogue, Kennedy saw trouble and in his own words was going to break it up into a million pieces and throw it to the wind.

    Kennedy really was the last true US president that stood for the good of the people. He saw trouble and had the balls to try and do something about it and got killed for doing so.
    My only disagreement with this post is the idea that the CIA "went rogue".

    No, the CIA is, always was, and to this day remains "rogue". It was started by the very same people that funded Hitler.... Prescott Bush, the Dulles brothers, etc.

    Or in other words, the CIA has been a wholly owned subsidiary of the BCE from day one. And Poppy Bush -himself a CIA operative since the day the ink dried on the papers establishing the shithole - personally supervised both the Bay of Pigs Fiasco, and the subsequent fiasco in Dallas (not a fiasco for them, but for the rest of the planet).
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    The CIA was part of the National Security Act passed by congress and signed into law by president Truman. Along with the CIA it gave the executive branch more power. Today looking back, the National Security Act looks to have been one big mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The CIA was part of the National Security Act passed by congress and signed into law by president Truman. Along with the CIA it gave the executive branch more power. Today looking back, the National Security Act looks to have been one big mistake.
    Truman realized this himself. He called the CIA "a tool of Wall street bankers", which it was. Remember that the BCE was running Union Bank on Wall Street while they were funding Uncle Adolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Truman realized this himself. He called the CIA "a tool of Wall street bankers", which it was. Remember that the BCE was running Union Bank on Wall Street while they were funding Uncle Adolf.
    The ACT established “under the National Security Council” a Central Intelligence Agency headed at that time by “Director”, Rear Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoeter. It provided a comprehensive program for future Security of the United States, and the ACT created the NSC to advise the President with respect to the integration of domestic, foreign, and military policies relating to the National Security, with the special duty to “Access and Appraise the objectives, commitments, and Risks….”.

    The funds for the CIA were hidden in the annual appropriations for other agencies. Today, collectively, U.S. Intelligence Operations (almost totally clothed in secrecy) cost more than $1 Billion Dollars annually.
    Maybe more accurately it made agencies like the CIA too powerful. Presidents come and go every 4 to 8 years. Agencies stay and grow. When you have secret budgets and no oversight it's just asking for trouble. You end up with a government inside a government that answers to nobody. Add in some drug dealing and other money making schemes and you can wreak havoc.

    The Bushes worked for the Harrimans. The Union Pacific RR tycoon family. They owned a ranch over where my grandfather owned some property and the river people liked to fly fish on ran right through the Harriman ranch. Their ranch hands were thugs and if you were caught on Harriman property you were lucky if you got ran off. A lot of times you got beat up. Now employees only do those sort of things if they are told to do that from the top. The old saying the shit flows downhill is true. Mrs. Harriman would drive her car to the store and rumor was she was a real bitch.

    William Averell Harriman was born in New York City, the son of railroad baron Edward Henry Harriman and Mary Williamson Averell, and brother of E. Roland Harriman. Harriman was a close friend of Hall Roosevelt (brother of Eleanor Roosevelt).
    During the summer of 1899, Harriman's father organized the Harriman Alaska Expedition, a philanthropic-scientific survey of coastal Alaska and Russia that attracted twenty-five of the leading scientific, naturalist and artist luminaries of the day, including John Muir, John Burroughs, George Bird Grinnell, C. Hart Merriam, Grove Karl Gilbert, and Edward Curtis, along with 100 family members and staff, aboard the steamship George Elder. Young Harriman would have his first introduction to Russia, a nation that he would spend a significant amount of attention on in his later life in public service.
    He attended Groton School in Massachusetts before going on to Yale where he joined the Skull and Bones society.[1]:127,150-1 He graduated in 1913. After graduating, he inherited the largest fortune in America and became Yale's youngest Crew coach.
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    Ok. Averell Harriman was in Skull and Bones. Now you know why the Bush's worked for them. Skull and Bones is a German death cult fraternity. The SS had the death head insignia. Rumors are Herbert Walker Bush was a neo nazi with ties to nazi sympathetic oligarchs who wanted to use corporate and banking means to usher in the reich the next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headly1984 View Post
    I have Faith the Holy Spirit will guide Francis I

    The diddlers have been weeded out as have the gay sex priests - as I have said before - the Holy Sea seems closer to the JPII days than it has before - however - even those days were not so rosy in hindsight due to the scandals ..

    I think the leadership of the Church of yore tried to allow for the power of prayer to heal the priests who sinned - it didn't work evidently - there were massive lawsuits - the offended were compensated - what was done had been done, hopefully it happens never again or a lot less(people fail) - and the gay sex guys, hopefully they are gone too (not welcome in the Church)

    A religion does not have to be tolerant of deviant sex - Muslims don;t seem to be neither does the other main religion - nor are african americans on average in support of same sex, sex

    If gays have legal rights in their country so be it, is that not enough?

    - the Church or any other religion/private organization(boy scouts) does not have to accommodate them

    Two quick questions for your belief system

    a) Does your god create gay people just to give you someone to feel superior too and why did the Jesus character never mention anything about it?

    b) How many holy communions do you need to take before you have eaten a whole Jesus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Truman realized this himself. He called the CIA "a tool of Wall street bankers", which it was. Remember that the BCE was running Union Bank on Wall Street while they were funding Uncle Adolf.
    As hard as it may be to believe, Alex Jones has a pretty good documentary about all of this. Interesting stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post

    b) How many holy communions do you need to take before you have eaten a whole Jesus?
    The communion wafers take too long. But that's where ChocoJesus comes in..........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Two quick questions for your belief system

    a) Does your god create gay people just to give you someone to feel superior too and why did the Jesus character never mention anything about it?

    b) How many holy communions do you need to take before you have eaten a whole Jesus?
    A- I am not gay and I am not passionate about gay rights issues - it is too complex a subject to just say yeah to gay

    why do you care - are you gay or do you have gay brother/sister ?

    I used to work for a rights agency - gay is a complex issue

    leathermen want to wear all leather all the time and be protected for their fetish
    transgendered
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    crossdressers
    and then the statistics of gay men and the # of partners they have compared to lesbians or heterosexuals on par is staggering-factor in the mental health issues are more prevalent in gays and so is substance abuse and alcoholism
    - and now with new drugs the younger gay males are living dangerously and having just as many gay sex partners as back in the hey day of the 70's/early 80's-it is a free for all so I read - many do not care if they go HIV cause the new meds keep people going for decades infected

    too much for me to just say yeah - the sub groups of the LGBT are too complex to deal with for me - I will let the LGBT crowd champion their own rights
    - if gay = pretty much same as hetero but gay- it might be easy to just say sure
    - but gay males get around to put it mildly - and the transgendered that want to wear clothes of the opposite sex to the work place ... men dressed as women ..ugh..

    it is not a simple issue & one I just let pass by - can't save em all Hasslehof
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    Whether it's a fascist movement on the right (nazis) or a Bolshevik movement on the left, bankers always bankroll the movement. It seems during the last two presidential administrations we have had a combination of fascism and bolshevism and the bankers have been the big big winners so far. It's pretty obvious the bankers are trying to build an SS type organization inside the government agencies to take the country over by force before the public wakes up enough to do something politically. That would explain the hundreds of millions of rounds of ammo being purchased and the armored vehicles. That's to go after the dissidents with and make a public example of them and scare the shit out of the rest of the public. Since they have the president bought and paid for, the military isn't going to do anything. It will just stand down or be deployed overseas while the new armed government agencies do the dirty work.

    Frankly. It's going to fail. It's going to be great watching things turn on the bankers. They played it too big and for too long. They have enemies worldwide. They are just circling the toilet while we wait for the big flush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    As hard as it may be to believe, Alex Jones has a pretty good documentary about all of this. Interesting stuff.
    Not everything at Infowars is garbage. You can learn some things there. I would say most of what's covered on the international banking system is accurate. That being said, David Icke covers those things very well too. Just don't believe in the reptiles. LOL! Sometimes I think it's intentional disinformation so when someone starts talking about the bankers and those kinds of problems, you have just been listening to crazy David Icke or that annoying Alex Jones too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Fuck you with a rusty chainsaw, you nazi douchebag.
    haha - who has the $ ? old money is quiet $ - doesn't even show up on the radar

    nazi -love it so easy to throw around words like racist, antisemantic, nazi - stay classy 616, feel free to hate Catholics - anticatholic sounds so clumsy and doesn't have the ring to it crybaby words do like antichrists or whatever you are
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    What we need is for somebody to hack into a drone and send that fucker right into the executive office of the Goldman Sachs building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Whether it's a fascist movement on the right (nazis) or a Bolshevik movement on the left, bankers always bankroll the movement. It seems during the last two presidential administrations we have had a combination of fascism and bolshevism and the bankers have been the big big winners so far. It's pretty obvious the bankers are trying to build an SS type organization inside the government agencies to take the country over by force before the public wakes up enough to do something politically. That would explain the hundreds of millions of rounds of ammo being purchased and the armored vehicles. That's to go after the dissidents with and make a public example of them and scare the shit out of the rest of the public. Since they have the president bought and paid for, the military isn't going to do anything.

    Frankly. It's going to fail. It's going to be great watching things turn on the bankers. They played it too big and for too long. They have enemies worldwide. They are just circling the toilet while we wait for the big flush.

    Alex has a couple of documentaries about this too

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    Never watched any of Icke's stuff. I wear a tin foil hat, not the whole suit

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    What we need is for somebody to hack into a drone and send that fucker right into the executive office of the Goldman Sachs building.
    Who knows. It may happen. People pretty high up are onto things. I think people are putting the puzzle together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Never watched any of Icke's stuff. I wear a tin foil hat, not the whole suit
    LOL! Yeah I wear the tin hat occasionally myself. As weird as this life is, shit wouldn't it be a hoot if Icke turned out to be telling the truth? LOL! With Dennis Rodman going to North Korea and hugging the dictator. Man. Anything is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Alex has a couple of documentaries about this too
    Really? I don't watch Alex Jones. Any blind person can see what's going on. That ammo isn't about keeping the airport safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Really? I don't watch Alex Jones. Any blind person can see what's going on. That ammo isn't about keeping the airport safe.
    I didn't even know who the dude was until seeing the guys here rip on E about him. Just don't watch his Bohemian Grove doc. It kinda sucks the life out of the whole globalist elite conspiracy when you see what's really going on there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headly1984 View Post
    haha - who has the $ ? old money is quiet $ - doesn't even show up on the radar

    nazi -love it so easy to throw around words like racist, antisemantic, nazi - stay classy 616, feel free to hate Catholics - anticatholic sounds so clumsy and doesn't have the ring to it crybaby words do like antichrists or whatever you are
    I don't think anybody here hates Catholics in general. At least not Catholic people, even if they don't have any use for corrupt fascist fucks like Ratzinger or Bergolio. But since you're just dying to call someone a Catholic hater, let me give you someone who has earned the title.......



    Now THAT's anti-Catholic!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    ust don't watch his Bohemian Grove doc. It kinda sucks the life out of the whole globalist elite conspiracy when you see what's really going on there...
    "Sucks" being the key word there, apparently


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    The whole thing is absurd. And no women allowed. At all. What's the point of having a secret club of millionaires if you can't have the best hookers money can buy? The men there can't all be gay. Regardless, when you see what's really going on there in their ceremonies and stuff it's laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    LOL! Yeah I wear the tin hat occasionally myself. As weird as this life is, shit wouldn't it be a hoot if Icke turned out to be telling the truth? LOL!
    I've heard him at length...

    He's interesting and he ties it all together well, even the reptilian stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I've heard him at length...

    He's interesting and he ties it all together well, even the reptilian stuff...
    Well, we do know that at least ONE reptile alien successfully infiltrated the US government........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Headly1984 View Post
    A- I am not gay and I am not passionate about gay rights issues - it is too complex a subject to just say yeah to gay

    why do you care - are you gay or do you have gay brother/sister ?

    I used to work for a rights agency - gay is a complex issue

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    and then the statistics of gay men and the # of partners they have compared to lesbians or heterosexuals on par is staggering-factor in the mental health issues are more prevalent in gays and so is substance abuse and alcoholism
    - and now with new drugs the younger gay males are living dangerously and having just as many gay sex partners as back in the hey day of the 70's/early 80's-it is a free for all so I read - many do not care if they go HIV cause the new meds keep people going for decades infected

    too much for me to just say yeah - the sub groups of the LGBT are too complex to deal with for me - I will let the LGBT crowd champion their own rights
    - if gay = pretty much same as hetero but gay- it might be easy to just say sure
    - but gay males get around to put it mildly - and the transgendered that want to wear clothes of the opposite sex to the work place ... men dressed as women ..ugh..

    it is not a simple issue & one I just let pass by - can't save em all Hasslehof
    Funny, all the gay young men I know are in committed relationships. And I know a lot. As for transgendered people, if you looked at their chromosomal makeup, you would realize just how deceiving looks can be. Cross-dressers don't fall under the gay umbrella
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    Every time somebody drags out the "gay men have hundreds of sex partners" bullshit, I know where their heads are at.

    Add that to the anti-semitism and Opus Dei fanaticism expressed by that poster, and I'm seriously wondering what the fuck he's doing on this website at all.

    I just don't see the connection between Van Halen and extremist hate groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Every time somebody drags out the "gay men have hundreds of sex partners" bullshit, I know where their heads are at.
    Been there, done that, eh ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I've heard him at length...

    He's interesting and he ties it all together well, even the reptilian stuff...
    Where I live is supposed to be a paranormal and UFO hot spot. LOL! If you look at a list of so called vortexes we sometimes show up on the list with Sedona Arizona, Mount Shasta, and Trout Lake, WA. LOL! We have a bit of that new age/UFO crowd here. More like neo hippie nature freaks actually. I guess Lawrence Rockefeller was into it as well. He used to have a ranch here. Maybe our reptilian alien is Dick Cheney. He has a home here.

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    Icke says Cheney and algore are shape shifting holograms...

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    Icke makes Alex Jones look sane, by comparison.

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    I think David Icke is a very good presenter. He does a real good job of explaining things. Alex Jones comes off as a guy who forgot to take his medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Icke says Cheney and algore are shape shifting holograms...
    I think that describes most politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headly1984 View Post
    A- I am not gay and I am not passionate about gay rights issues - it is too complex a subject to just say yeah to gay

    why do you care - are you gay or do you have gay brother/sister ?

    I used to work for a rights agency - gay is a complex issue

    leathermen want to wear all leather all the time and be protected for their fetish
    transgendered
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    crossdressers
    and then the statistics of gay men and the # of partners they have compared to lesbians or heterosexuals on par is staggering-factor in the mental health issues are more prevalent in gays and so is substance abuse and alcoholism
    - and now with new drugs the younger gay males are living dangerously and having just as many gay sex partners as back in the hey day of the 70's/early 80's-it is a free for all so I read - many do not care if they go HIV cause the new meds keep people going for decades infected

    too much for me to just say yeah - the sub groups of the LGBT are too complex to deal with for me - I will let the LGBT crowd champion their own rights
    - if gay = pretty much same as hetero but gay- it might be easy to just say sure
    - but gay males get around to put it mildly - and the transgendered that want to wear clothes of the opposite sex to the work place ... men dressed as women ..ugh..

    it is not a simple issue & one I just let pass by - can't save em all Hasslehof

    It's not complexed at all. I have gay friends. And bi friends. Their marrige has never affected my life negatively in any way. Or any of their other activities. They are actually the ONLY married friends I have.
    Give it 50 years, you'll get there ;-)

    And even if you aren't passionate about gay rights, can't you see the connection between acceptance and a better and more humane society all together?
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    My teenage daughter ran away. My fine young son has turned out gay. It would be ok on any other day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I think David Icke is a very good presenter. He does a real good job of explaining things. Alex Jones comes off as a guy who forgot to take his medication.
    Well he was trained by the BBC as a sports presenter for many years.

    I think some people are just desperate to believe in anything no matter how fucking dumb because they find reality too frightening.

    At that point someone like the Icke, Jones or the pope comes along and happily provides it while dipping their pockets.

    It's frustrating to watch people being conned by these cunts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headly1984 View Post
    A- I am not gay and I am not passionate about gay rights issues - it is too complex a subject to just say yeah to gay

    why do you care - are you gay or do you have gay brother/sister ?

    I used to work for a rights agency - gay is a complex issue

    leathermen want to wear all leather all the time and be protected for their fetish
    transgendered
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    crossdressers
    and then the statistics of gay men and the # of partners they have compared to lesbians or heterosexuals on par is staggering-factor in the mental health issues are more prevalent in gays and so is substance abuse and alcoholism
    - and now with new drugs the younger gay males are living dangerously and having just as many gay sex partners as back in the hey day of the 70's/early 80's-it is a free for all so I read - many do not care if they go HIV cause the new meds keep people going for decades infected

    too much for me to just say yeah - the sub groups of the LGBT are too complex to deal with for me - I will let the LGBT crowd champion their own rights
    - if gay = pretty much same as hetero but gay- it might be easy to just say sure
    - but gay males get around to put it mildly - and the transgendered that want to wear clothes of the opposite sex to the work place ... men dressed as women ..ugh..

    it is not a simple issue & one I just let pass by - can't save em all Hasslehof
    Don't worry I really doubt you will get fucked by a gay man and if occasionally you get a little hard looking at a pretty guy I won't say anything if you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Well he was trained by the BBC as a sports presenter for many years.

    I think some people are just desperate to believe in anything no matter how fucking dumb because they find reality too frightening.

    At that point someone like the Icke, Jones or the pope comes along and happily provides it while dipping their pockets.

    It's frustrating to watch people being conned by these cunts.
    People can get addicted to drama or hearing what they want to hear. Most news is negative because people are addicted to the drama of it. If positive news generated ratings then we would have positive news. Alex Jones sells drama.

    David Icke is more sophisticated. He identifies the bad guys behind the curtain controlling the great Oz. The bad guys are alien lizard type beings. That sparks curiosity and he takes you on a wonderful ride explaining it all. After he has scared you to death on his wild ride he hits you with a very positive message.

    We are going to beat these SOB lizards because we are god like beings who don't realize our power. Then he gives you some tools to discover your inner god. Sky daddy is gone with Icke. There is just the creation and you are your own sky daddy. After trying the meditation techniques you feel better but you need to know more. It just so happens David has a whole assortment of videos and books to help you along the path to godhood and reptile destruction. It's kind of like Harry Potter. You might have your want but you don't know how to work it yet. David Icke provides the Hogwarts instruction to make you a master of the universe.

    Now you are excited. I'm a fucking god! Oh dear. I have to do battle with the illuminati to make it to the higher dimensions. I need to buy that next DVD to learn how.

    Actually David Icke is a lot like Mormonism but less controlling and it's move at your own pace and run on your own time. The only thing missing is the support group, the basketball court, A choir to sing in and a big organ to play. You also don't have the priesthood fraternity of secret handshakes where everyone has each other's back. It's like a gang. If they fuck with you they fuck with all of us. They never have quite gotten over being ran out of Missouri and Illinois.
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    Life is far to short spend listening to the babble of Icke, Jones or the religionists.

    Having a young family I already catch enough children's TV and movies.

    There are plenty of people presenting science in relatively easy to understand ways these days, there really is no excuse for lazy brain pretend belief systems.

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    Related to this: I just finished reading "The Key" by Whitley Streiber. While I don't believe every word of it, it did present plenty of food for thought regarding the human race's untapped potential. I would recommend it. It may be the only book I've ever read where I turned back to page 1 when I was finished and immediately started reading it again because I wasn't completely grasping Streiber's concepts.
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