At least the circus has passed, and now Miami can get back to it's routine of plodding up and down the court while playing no defense, getting their ass handed to them by any team with a plus .500 record then whining about their motivation.
At least the circus has passed, and now Miami can get back to it's routine of plodding up and down the court while playing no defense, getting their ass handed to them by any team with a plus .500 record then whining about their motivation.
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”― Stephen Hawking
The thing about LeBron is he is the typical player of this generation. He doesn’t have the fear of losing. That is why he will never be “legendary”. There is not one person who watches the NBA that could say he is not great, but he wants to be a legend.
You watch Larry Bird. You watch Michael Jordan. These guys did legendary things:
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(Sorry in advance)
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They showed the most emotion when they lost. They were the BEST with their backs to the wall. What does King James do when he's up against it?
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Players and kids today don’t get it. They play all summer on their AAU teams and as long as they put up the numbers to impress college or pro scouts, that’s all that matters. Not the outcome of the game. They are trying to get theirs. Good enough numbers, they will get their endorsements. They will get their money. Greatness use to be tied to winning, now it's mostly tied to inflated numbers.
When I think of LeBron I think of two quotes by two of my idols:
"Most people have the will to win, few have the will to prepare to win." - Bob Knight
"Stats? You wanna know my stats? Super Bowl IX,X,XIII and XIV" - Terry Bradshaw
"Don't try to confuse the issue with half truths and gorilla dust." - Bill NcNeal
You are right Silvio.
I have seen those issues escalate with my youngest ones sports. The coaches are being pounded by the youth organizations to "develop" the kids, and ignore wins and losses. Good theory, but you end up breeding selfish individual players that have no idea of a team concept, and winning as a team. The youth organizations are demanding the coaches breed superstars. It is pathetic, and has really taken the idea of team competitiveness away. These kids today, for the most part, don't give a flying fuck if their team wins or loses, as long as their stats are outrageous.
I'd rather have a true "team" of mediocre talent, that wins championships, than a team of superstars that thinks only about their individual stats.
The reason Scotty Bowman was so successful, is because he didn't give a rats ass about the superstar. He made Steve Yzerman completely change his game. He told Yzerman to do it his way, or go away. Yzerman did as he was asked, and was rewarded with multiple championships. Most of these spoiled bitches today, especially the ghetto mentality of the NBA players, would have told Bowman to fuck off, and they'd have went elsewhere for the money and the fame, and forsaken multiple championships.
Individual competitiveness has displaced team competitiveness in a lot of the sporting world today. Sad.
lotta fuckin' nerve posting that clip in the Cleveland chatter.Originally Posted by SilvioDante
...great post, though
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Sorry again. After I found the video I put two and two together.
I am an idiot, I know...
no worries. It's not like the major networks don't show that damn thing, back-to-back with the Drive, the Fumble, The Move, Game 7 of the 97 series.....oh, about once a month
I still can't watch that shit...
"Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."
despite me being only a few months old when the shot was made, and not even being in existance for the drive or the fumble, I'm actually more angry about the fumble and drive games and the mesa in retrospect.
The Shot, while painful (Ehlo was fucking fouled on the previous possession and was playing with a messed up ankle, funny how THAT's never mentioned), but following that, I'm curious if the Cavs could have knocked off the bad boy pistons even, to make the NBA title game?
The Drive game would have been just such a fitting way to win, Kosar throws it number 86, the number being significant as it was Gary Collins who wore that number in 64 to deliver the Browns and the city of Cleveland their final championship to date, my dad described the week leading up to it as insane. and I've heard reports of the stadium chanting "pasa-dena". Would have been nice to excercise some ghosts and have at least made the super bowl
Fumble game..was just the epitome of being left at the alter
Jose Mesa is a douche bag, and the Marlins don't deserve a MLB franchise. so that was horseshit.
Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team
for all the talk of the Shot, it was just a first-round series. now, if he had won the 92 series (ECF) that way....oy vay!
the Drive was epic. we had cousins call us after Brennan's TD, "we're going to the Super Bowl." then, slowly they march down the field
but fuckin' Mesa - two outs from the title...fuck me runnin'.
You guys should find this amusing. Just got back from the store, where people that had not bothered to plan ahead were picking up supplies to take to their various tailgating activities at the Dolphins home game. And naturally, the majority were wearing Browns jerseys. Yup, ya gotta love the so-called South Florida sports fan.
Marquis Grissom, Roberto Alomar, Tony Fernandez and fucking Charles Nagy get off the fucking hook far too much here. Mesa blew the game...but if Alomar doesn't get thrown out on a fucking squibber by Grissom in the top...the Tribe likely wins...and remember...Mesa didn't LOSE. He blew the save, which wasn't much of a surprise here. And the Indians likely don't lose at least in the 11th without fucking Tony Fernandez...
There was plenty of blame to go around...but yeah...two outs...tough...
I wonder where they were on Thursday night?
At home watching a CSI rerun. S.F. sports fans don't attend games during the work week.
eh, just snowbirds who didn't wait until Christmas to head south.
Browns have a HUGE following down in Florida, along with the Steelers, same with Charlotte/NC.
I think some of the larger Browns backer groups are down there.
We don't really get as many snowbirds anymore. Those not frightened by the crime rate, hurricanes and the general stupidity of the area moved here permanently about 15 years ago.eh, just snowbirds who didn't wait until Christmas to head south.
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Raleigh is loaded with Steelers fans...There are several bars with Steelers groups here...
One of the favorites...ironically enough...called Sammy's...has Browns on one side...and Steelers on the other...
and Sammy...the owner?
From Buffalo...go figure...good guy though...smart...you should see it in that place...
I can't believe there is even a thread about Cleveland "sports".
Along with various New York, Philly and Chicago franchises as well.
wooohoo! go browns!
Chad Henne is a joke!
Joe Haden is a beast
wooohoo! go browns!
Chad Henne is a joke!
Joe Haden is a beast
Don't gloat, you won by a field goal. Then again, it came off a Henne interception.
Never mind, go ahead and gloat.
after losing all of them like this earlier this year, I'll take the last couple weeks of close wins.
Chad Henne still can't beat a team from Ohio...
Really, what about the Bengals a few weeks ago?
OHIO, we define ciny as Kentucky.
I do have a question
being that the browns are on the rise in the AFC North, and the Bengals seemed to be returning to last place, could the browns at least make it more of a three-team division year in and year out?
The Rats and Steelers have a pretty big chokehold on the division, but I'm not sure yet if the Browns can do it. They are trying to play catch up with two of the best managed teams in the NFL, and are still fairly far off from talent.
The question, what would be more likely in order for some form of success, the browns being able to make it a three-team race, or the ravens/steelers declining in some way?
it's an up and down league. the Steelers weren't very good last year, so that will happen in cycles. the difference between the good organizations and the bad ones is how long the cycles last. Pittsburgh will have a down year every 4 or 5; the Browns might get lucky to have a good one that often.
even as dreadful as the Browns have been since coming back, they've still been decent once every five years (playoffs in '02. 10-6, but no playoffs in '07). there's a feeling that maybe they are starting to have an organizational shift right now, but time will tell. they are still short on talent, but there is some promise. a normal Browns team in a season like this (toughest schedule in the league - have played all 6 of the top 6 in espn's power rankings, with two more to go with 2nd games vs. Bal/Pit) would be 1-11. but this year they are 5-7 and have been competitive every week.
again, we'll see if it's a shift or not. my fear is that this is the occasional up year, but has been hammered down by the schedule.
welp..peter king just said the browns are targeting fucking marty morniweg.
kill me now.
literally with that hire, holmgren will get run the fuck out of town.
I said this a few weeks ago: The only reason Morniweg's name is getting mentioned is because Kevin Kolb got injured. I was just telling POJO how amazing it is that one good season in the NFL can change people's perception of a player or coach. Look at Charlie Weis. A year ago he was getting ridden out of Notre Dame on a rail. Now he's expected to be the new offensive coordinator for the Gators.
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I just don't think people realize the difference between a coordinator and a head coach. Any good head coach oversees offense, defense, special teams, schemes...the whole shebang, and the great coaches know each scheme as though they were the coordinator. Now that's not to mention knowing schedules, who's doing what...so on and so forth. While all NFL teams have management to take care of it...the coach has to WORRY about it all.
A coordinator has one job. They don't have to worry about much of anything but coaching the offense, or the defense, so on and so forth.
So, just because a guy blows ass as a coach, they generally can step into a coordinator role the following year without taking a hit in that regard. I don't think anyone questions Weis as an offensive coordinator. Look at Kansas City this year as they learned his system.
Florida made a good hire...but I would never hire Weis as a head coach, unless I was at Piss City University, and needed a name for my program.
As for Mornhingweg--he's NEVER really been a renowned coordinator. He made his name as a QB coach for Favray...and we all know Favray is who put his name on the map. He went to San Fran after that, and had Steve Young as his QB. Once Young got hurt and retired, the 9ers offense was prolific, but the team fucking sucked. Their first winning season under Garcia came the year after Mornhingweg left. Then came the Lions gig...then a bunch of underling jobs...and of course...this year with Vick. Where did that get him, and seriously...Vick's great games were Vick...
So anyways...if he's ever a head coach again, then the owners need to take themselves behind a barn and shoot themselves in the head.
As for Shurmur getting hired...while I think they should have hired a commodity, it's fairly apparent that Holmgren wants a coach he can control a bit. Shurmur will listen to Holmgren, and his uncle...so Holmgren can coach without actually coaching...and if something happens, he can step right in and they'll be running the same schemes he normally runs.
He's an offensive guy, and he's smart...so we shall see. I'm fairly curious at who they'll hire as a DC...I hear Dick Jauron...which would be a good hire...again...a great coordinator...
Dear LeBitch...
How's that Karma treating you?
Heat is what...0-3 since you opened your fucking trap? You rolled your ankle? Bosh is hurt?
Fuck off big mouth...
By now, you can pretty much guess how pleased I feel about this, but just to take things a step further, let's review how this current situation came about. Initially, Le Bone makes a twitter statement that mocks the Cavaliers. Instead of just going after the team's owner, the statements are wide ranging enough that he winds up not only insulting his former team, but the entire city. A day later, rather than owning the issue, he denies ever having made the statements. Later that same day, he again contradicts himself by saying the statements had merit. HUH?
One day this goofball announces to the world he enjoys the role of villain, the next he proves that he doesn't have the sack for such a designation. So rather than coming off as a Bond villain, he ends up looking like Dr. Evil in an Austin Powers movie: Completely oblivious to his own cluelessness. And standing next to him are Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade, both looking uncomfortably like Mini me and Number Two.
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i think Fritz is dead. unless you mean he'll listen to his uncle Luke Skywalker/Ben Kenobi-style.
now Holmgren is on the clock. he's got his coach, and his second draft coming up. but then, Lerner is supposedly smitten with his soccer team enough that what happens here is not a big thing to him.
Yeah...he's been dead for a long time...i think Fritz is dead. unless you mean he'll listen to his uncle Luke Skywalker/Ben Kenobi-style.
now Holmgren is on the clock. he's got his coach, and his second draft coming up. but then, Lerner is supposedly smitten with his soccer team enough that what happens here is not a big thing to him.
I'll tell you this though...if he stands on the sideline, and uncle Fritz' head floats above his shoulder...shit...that would make me hire him too.
As far as Lerner goes...who gives a fuck what's said about the guy. At least he isn't Modell...
An ode to Christian Eyenga...
If this kid ever figures it out...
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so it's NBA All-Star Weekend, and i'm wondering...
how in the fuck did Cleveland have the biggest player in the game for seven years and not host an All-Star game in that time?
oh, i know, once the new casino is built, THEN we'll get another All-Star game.
I don't think much of Bosh as a player. Having said tht he did handle the never-ending chorus of boos when he returned to Toronto pretty well. 1:20 mark or so
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Roth Army Canada
Mo and Moon to the Clippers for Baron Davis and picks?
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