Cleveland Sports Chatter

[POJO_Risin]

Done deal...Mo Williams is gone...and as much as I'd like to hit the guy for sucking in the playoffs...he wanted to stay, and that says something (perhaps stupidity)...

Moon is gone as well...and that's no big deal.

In return, we get the malcontent Baron Davis, who absolutely HATED playing for Byron Scott, and he's now playing in Cleveland...and...

...an unconditional first round pick for next year's draft.

That means cleveland will get two lottery picks next year...not too shabby.

I still think they have a shot at a third with the trade exception after the season...we'll see...

[POJO_Risin]

Still...the potential for Baron Davis and his unhappiness could be fun to watch...

[twonabomber]

Scott says everything is good between him and Davis. supposedly they spoke before last season.

i think it's gonna be a trainwreck.

got two white guys from the Celtics, too.

[POJO_Risin]

I'll take the train wreck for a lottery pick...

Now, if Cleveland can manage to trade that exception for something that includes a potential lottery pick in 2012...four top picks in two years can rejuvenate a team quickly...

Screw Baron Davis...

[TFM_Dale]

Cavs were interested in Rip Hamilton but couldn't agree on a buy out to make the deal happen.

[POJO_Risin]

Yeah...I don't really get the Rip Hamilton thing...

were they planning on signing him to a long-term deal?...and if they were...why?

[TFM_Dale]

Yeah...I don't really get the Rip Hamilton thing...

were they planning on signing him to a long-term deal?...and if they were...why?

At one time not long ago Rip played some D and was a solid scorer, now he thinks he is Lebron, gets technical fouls like Sheed used to, and can't play D or score. I wish I knew what happened but all signs point to he lost a step and hasn't stopped pouting since Billups was traded.

[POJO_Risin]

Damn...

Hamilton is a fucking dick...

Cleveland was willing to take on his contract, and would have gotten a first rounder from Detroit. In return, Cleveland offered to immediately buy out his deal. In the meantime, Boston would have then signed him...

He said no...

what a dickhead...

[DlocRoth]

Really? Stupid fuck. I guess his face mask killed a shit ton of brain cells.

[Unchainme]

Charlie Sheen started a twitter account.

First thing he does is post a picture of him wearing an Indians Hat.

Fuck Yeah. "THE BAD SEED IS BACK!".

He should come to cleveland sometime and sit in the bleachers at the Jake.

[twonabomber]

Joe Tait returns to broadcasting Cavs home games today.

[chefcraig]

LeBron James' mom arrested

Where else? Florida.

ESPN

MIAMI -- The mother of Miami Heat forward LeBron James was arrested on a misdemeanor assault charge early Thursday morning at a Miami Beach hotel, area media outlets reported.

Gloria James was arrested following an incident at the Fontainebleau Hotel, Miami Beach police said, according to multiple media reports. She was released early Thursday morning.

James allegedly assaulted a parking attendant at the hotel, according to WPLG-TV.

The Heat played the Milwaukee Bucks at home Wednesday night, and Gloria James has routinely attended her son's home games. The Heat lost Wednesday, 90-85.

Gloria James has been in trouble with the law in the past. She was arrested in 2006 in Ohio on a drunken driving charge.

[POJO_Risin]

Yeah...she's a special...special lady...

ask Delonte West...

Now that would be a story...LeBron's has a little brother...Delonte's son...

[POJO_Risin]

Joe Tait returns to broadcasting Cavs home games today.

Have a good life...everybody...

The greatest...I wouldn't listen to the games on the radio...until he returned...

Now what...

[Unchainme]

Cavs got the number 1 pick in the draft due to the clippers dumbly trading away an unprotected pick

they also have the number 4 pick

Tribe is in first place..

Welcome to Cleveland Kyrie Irving

[Unchainme]

Preview of the Browns improving offense...

...and terrible defense...



McCoy intrigues me. I'm curious to see if we can reach .500 this year, and maybe next year finally make a move for the playoffs.

[Little Texan]

You really can't judge by preseason whether or not a team is going to be worth a shit or not as they are playing mostly rookies, walk-ons, and players that are trying to make the team. The starters might go for a series or two, but even then they are still rusty from the offseason and aren't quite into playing shape, yet. The preseason is not a good indicator of how your team has or hasn't improved...you really can't tell, and it can sure fool you once the regular season starts. I remember back in 1989 when Jimmy Johnson took over as coach of the Cowboys that they went undefeated in the preseason, and I was thinking, wow, Jimmy really has turned this team around and we're going to be good this year! They proceeded to win ONE game all season. I believe it was the Lions a few years ago that also went undefeated in preseason and ended up going winless in the regular season, so you really can't tell anything from preseason.

The Browns got rid of Mangina, so they have already improved in that respect.

[POJO_Risin]

The Browns organization has a different mentality...but THIS organization (after Modell left) really knows nothing but losing, and that's tough to overcome.

I like McCoy, but still think the Browns lack a receiver that can bail him out.

Good line though...

[Unchainme]

The Browns organization has a different mentality...but THIS organization (after Modell left) really knows nothing but losing, and that's tough to overcome.

I like McCoy, but still think the Browns lack a receiver that can bail him out.

Good line though...

Line looked even better. They got rid of that bum St. Clair, and they seem to actually give McCoy time to throw.

Greg Little has looked good at Wideout, guy we got with a 2nd rounder and was even able to throw a decent crack-back block. But agreed, that needs to be worked on.

And without a question the org. has been a joke since '89 pretty much due to Modell meddeling around where he wasn't supposed to. Then the jackass couldn't manage to make money off of a team where the stadium was constantly sold out.

Don't get me wrong on this, The Lerners are good peeps (ignoring their actual, you know..line of business) for what they've tried to do to breathe life back into this organization. But they don't have a clue on how to run a football team, nor the people to hire to run such a franchise.

I will say this, I can see Holmgren working. He's brought in some people who actually seem to know what they're doing and evaluate talent correctly. A wait and see, but maybe they'll finally get it right.

[damngoodtimes]

not a single post during the Browns' shitty-ass season. figures.

best Browns moment of the year was that dude yelling at the stadium on youtube. Factory of Sadness!!

Cavs might not totally such this year. Kyrie looks like the real deal. Need to be high in the lottery again this year, should be a deep class after all those guys stayed in school with the lockout looming.

Tribe still needs a first baseman.

[twonabomber]

good article/interview with Randy Lerner

http://www.clevescene.com/gyrobase/t...85&storyPage=1

[damngoodtimes]

OK, here we go, the perpetual best time of the year to be a Browns fan...the Draft!! Two number ones; let's see if we can get it right this year!

[damngoodtimes]

literally, while those of us out East were sleeping, the Tribe has rolled off 7 wins in the last 8.

Go Tribe. On the warpath!

[POJO_Risin]

literally, while those of us out East were sleeping, the Tribe has rolled off 7 wins in the last 8.

Go Tribe. On the warpath!

You DGT...and those 7 of 8...on the fucking road again...I just can't wait to get on the road again...

I've been saying it since the beginning of fucking April, this fucking team is built to take off in April and the first part of May...mainly with regards to their schedule...check it out the rest of this month...and next month...

we should see the infusion of a few more players...starting with Damon, followed by Sizemore...followed by Roberto Hernandez...three former all stars...far from their glory...but it's almost like a big-time trade...

[damngoodtimes]

that's gonna have to pass as a big-time trade in these parts.

I think the key is Ubaldo. everyone was shitting on the trade when he struggled down the stretch last year, but I still think he can be our #1 guy. If he pitches well, it just sets up the rest of the rotation so well. That was the ballsiest move this team has made in YEARS, so I give them credit for going for it.

[damngoodtimes]

well, good thing I didn't buy my kid a #12 Browns jersey...

I like the way the Browns are going after it. Weeden has the size and arm strength that you need. T-Rich is going to be a stud. Glad they didn't let TB slide up ahead and grab him.

[twonabomber]

i guess McCoy Tweeted "welcome to the team" after Richardson was picked, and didn't Tweet anything after Weeden was picked.

i cannot confirm the rumor that Brady Quinn called McCoy after the Weeden pick and said "i told you so."

[damngoodtimes]

It's still May, but Tribe's on a bit of a roll...

...keep it up, fellas

[damngoodtimes]

and the swoon may well be underway....

After a great series against the Tigers, the doors fell off against the PaleHose. Sox on such a run that our Tribe finds itself 1.5 games back all of a sudden. Big week coming up. Twins in town is a chance to right the ship before heading to Detroit. Then Interleague begins.

I read this morning that they might actually get Hernandez/Carmona back this year.

[damngoodtimes]

tough break for the Cavs in the lottery. That's two years in a row that the Cavs have seen their own top 3 pick fall to #4 in the lottery. Thank God for the cheap-ass Clippers that we got Kyrie...

looks like Bradley Beal might be the choice at #4 - Cavs need some wing players who can score, so that would be a good start.

[damngoodtimes]

well, couldn't get Beal, we'll have to see how Waiters works out. Should give us some wing scoring, so that's a plus. Cavs are building a solid young core.

Browns took a bit of risk in the supplemental yesterday on this Gordon kid, but he's physically a stud and they get him a year early, so we'll see how that works out, too. God knows they needed a WR.

[twonabomber]

Browns getting new ownership!

[redblkwht]

You guys ok with new owner/s to be? If it was my bears, i wouldnt like the idea of
part owner of the vikings picking up the tab..IMO

BTW on paper the browns should be up and comers soon, those picks are stellar.

[twonabomber]

i'm not much of a fan. my only wish is that the Browns improve so i don't have to listen to my co-workers cry about them any more.

Haslam had to sell his interest in the Steelers before buying in to the Browns. i don't see a problem with that. at least he had some experience with a successful franchise. Carmen Policy was part of the ownership group when the Browns returned...okay, he wasn't from a hated rival team but he was still an outsider.

i think it's going to be interesting what happens with Holmgren, Heckert, and Shurmur. the Browns already went through a season with a lame duck coach, until Holmgren brought in his pick. does Haslam come in this year, suffer with what he was left, and make a change at the end of the season?

i've heard some people say that Haslam, with his Steeler ties, could possibly bring in Bill Cohwer to coach. coulda swore i read that Cowher told the Rooneys that if he returned to coaching that it wouldn't be in the AFC North. we shall see.

[damngoodtimes]

You guys ok with new owner/s to be? If it was my bears, i wouldnt like the idea of
part owner of the vikings picking up the tab..IMO

BTW on paper the browns should be up and comers soon, those picks are stellar.

I think the whole angle of "Steelers fan buying the Browns" (which was the silly espn.com title) is just put out there for more hits. This guy is from TN; since they had no NFL team back then, he grew up (like a lot of kids back then) as a Cowboys fan. He later says he became a Colts fan (which is obviously because of the Peyton Manning - UT connection). He wanted to buy the Titans; when that didn't work out, he got in on the Steelers when the Rooney family was forced to sell part of the team.

At some point after that, somebody asked him if he was now a Steelers fan. As one of the owners, of course he said yes. It's not like the guy grew up waving a Terrible Towel. He clearly wants a majority stake in a franchise, and the Browns will be that opportunity for him. So, now, he'll be a huge Browns fan, of course. It's really as simple as that. So, no, I could care less where he comes from.

Lots of the locals seem thrilled to be getting somebody other than Randy Lerner; I'm not so sure. Haslam looks like he'll be much more involved/active. That may be nice from a PR front, but I'm not sure it makes the team any better. Usually seems to lead to the Snyder/Jones model of over-spending on free agents and splashy moves that don't necessarily equal wins. I think Lerner could have been a perfect owner if he could hire the right football men (local guy, shuts up and lets the football guys do their jobs). The problem he always had was not hiring the right football guys.

Lerner might've finally got it right with Holmgren. I know lots of folks are very impatient on this front, because we haven't seen an increase in wins, but I agree with the method by which Holmgren/Heckert are trying to build the team: draft well, try to acquire extra picks, don't overspend on free agents that will eat up your cap space and only get you from "lousy" to "mediocre". Unfortunately, that takes time that it looks like they won't get. Any new owner wants to bring in his own folks. Other than a lack of talent (which I think is related), what the Browns have really suffered from since coming back in '99 is a lack of a consistent vision. Every two or three years its another new regime. You never get anywhere that way.

So, while this MIGHT be a good thing long term, it looks like in the short term it will be another reboot. This coming at a time when I think there might be a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. I don't seem them being playoff contenders this year (too many rookies), but they have increased the overall talent level that should pay dividends starting in '13.

[twonabomber]

sold! for...ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

$700 mil now, the remainder in four years.

[Unchainme]

i've heard some people say that Haslam, with his Steeler ties, could possibly bring in Bill Cohwer to coach. coulda swore i read that Cowher told the Rooneys that if he returned to coaching that it wouldn't be in the AFC North. we shall see.

I always felt a guy like Cowher or Gruden would fit here like a fucking glove.

Browns fans love a guy with some passion, and we've not had that since fucking 1988.

[twonabomber]

Art Modell...dead. or close to it.

[Nickdfresh]

So he left a big Cleveland Steamer in some hospital bed?

[damngoodtimes]

can't get myself too riled up about old Art taking the dirt nap.

however, I just read that the Browns are going to do something "appropriate" to acknowledge his death at Sunday's game. BAD IDEA! I know what the drunk fuckers at the stadium are going to do, and it's just gonna make Cleveland look bad. Mind you, I love those drunk fuckers (I just think they are misunderstood), but it's gonna be ugly.