BBC Demonizes Alex Jones

[ELVIS]

[binnie]

Not too sure it's 'demonisation'.

The BBC reporter is simply asking him question and - I might add - allowing him the space to elaborate on his theories/connections (for over 7 minutes). The issue is that Alex Jones does not like having his gospel questioned (which is why he gets angry). The irony is, much of his outrage is shared by most people (the BBC included) regarding tax laws etc - they just don't spin moral vaccumms into 'they're all out to get us' conspiracies.

I'll say this about Alex Jones, however - he's committed.

[ELVIS]

I'll say this about Alex Jones, however - he's committed.

That's a rarity these days...

[binnie]

That's a rarity these days...

Indeed. And if he'd learn a) not to lose his temper so quickly when questioned; and b) to listen to others who question him, he would be a much bigger force to be reckoned with.

[vandeleur]

Not too sure it's 'demonisation'.



I'll say this about Alex Jones, however - he's committed.

wants commited ?

[ELVIS]

Indeed. And if he'd learn a) not to lose his temper so quickly when questioned; and b) to listen to others who question him, he would be a much bigger force to be reckoned with.

He knows that...he's said as much on his radio show on more than one occasion...

Jones is wrong about some things but he's on the scent with no signs of stopping...

[vandeleur]

What I've watched jones , and it ain't a lot . His style of journalism comes across less investigation more selling something IMO .
He maybe hits on valid points but they get diluted with his desire to highlight his agenda of a grand unification theory of conspiracy .
Once again IMO .

Please excuse my lack of pomposity and absolute certainty in this post .

[jhale667]

I'll say this about Alex Jones, however - he's committed.

More like he should be...

[BITEYOASS]

Wrong! Here's how you demonize Alex Jones the right way.

[Kristy]

I'll say this about Alex Jones, however - he's committed.

Actually, the term you're looking for is certifiable.

[Seshmeister]

Not too sure it's 'demonisation'.

The BBC reporter is simply asking him question and - I might add - allowing him the space to elaborate on his theories/connections (for over 7 minutes). The issue is that Alex Jones does not like having his gospel questioned (which is why he gets angry). The irony is, much of his outrage is shared by most people (the BBC included) regarding tax laws etc - they just don't spin moral vaccumms into 'they're all out to get us' conspiracies.

I'll say this about Alex Jones, however - he's committed.

It's ridiculous that this lobby group gets access to our politicians. Kissinger is a criminal as are a lot of these other people. The taxation systems are ludicrous.

But when Jones and the rest come out with childish crap like this lobby group secretly run the world it actually gives them a smokescreen to hide behind.

[Seshmeister]

How did that in anyway demonize him anyway?

Also if he thinks that the rich running the world would stop pensions for the police who protect their wealth he is dumber than I thought...

[binnie]

It's ridiculous that this lobby group gets access to our politicians. Kissinger is a criminal as are a lot of these other people. The taxation systems are ludicrous.

But when Jones and the rest come out with childish crap like this lobby group secretly run the world it actually gives them a smokescreen to hide behind.

Exactly. We all - or, most of us - share the same sense of moral outrage at the taxation practices of these groups and the fact that our governments won't do anything about it. But we don't move from observing that immoral behaviour to assuming that there is a world-wide conspiracy.

Same building blocks, different structure. What one sees as proof of almost super-human malevolence/organisation, the other sees as proof of an inability to act (as result of ineptitude on the part of politicians, and a world driven by the stock market on the part of business).

[ELVIS]

THEY DO FUCKING RUN THE WORLD !!

IT'S NOT A SECRET !!

They control everything from the manipulation of the worlds money supply to strong arming oil rich countries to poisoning the food supply and the vaccinations to the poor...

Jones did nothing but act professional in that clip and he was armed with facts, as always...

We all know you're on the side of the rich and the powerful, Sesh...

[binnie]

Also if he thinks that the rich running the world would stop pensions for the police who protect their wealth he is dumber than I thought...

I think that may have been a response to Jones trying to get closer to the place where the meeting was being held and the police essentially telling him to fuck off. That's how I read the video.

[ELVIS]

Exactly. We all - or, most of us - share the same sense of moral outrage at the taxation practices of these groups and the fact that our governments won't do anything about it. But we don't move from observing that immoral behaviour to assuming that there is a world-wide conspiracy.

Same building blocks, different structure. What one sees as proof of almost super-human malevolence/organisation, the other sees as proof of an inability to act (as result of ineptitude on the part of politicians, and a world driven by the stock market on the part of business).

No fucking way is it that benign...

[Kristy]

Jone$ did nothing but act professional in that clip and he was armed with facts, as always....

Wow. Why don't you just go over to his house and blow him?

[binnie]

THEY DO FUCKING RUN THE WORLD !!

IT'S NOT A SECRET !!

...

They are certainly immoral, incredibly self-interested, and prepared to use the logic of capitalists systems to make as much money as possible, but is that controlling the world?

If they really wanted to control the world (and subvert freedoms) why would they let us have this conversation across the internet? Why would they allow programmes like Jones (or equivalent) to air?

[binnie]

No fucking way is it that benign...

I didn't say it was benign. There is a difference between 'they're all secretly huddling together to fuck the rest of us' and 'our politicians are too timid - or too stupid - to put legislation in place which prevents some corportations from becoming too powerful. Some of this is due to the global economy expanding at a pace which moves more quickly than international law (thus making effective legislation difficult to pass), and some of it is down to incompetence'.

One explanation is a conspiracy; the other is pragmatic. Both see immorality, and is outraged by it.

[ELVIS]

If they really wanted to control the world (and subvert freedoms) why would they let us have this conversation across the internet? Why would they allow programmes like Jones (or equivalent) to air?

I dunno, but it's happening at ever increasing increments, and the dumb people around the world are letting it happen...

Most young people are already hook line and sinker in a technocratic grid that they don't even seem to notice, like it was there forever...

So it's going to be easy for a huge lot of people to be digitally corralled, IMO...

And as far as Jones, he's on the right track but he doesn't have it all figured out and they let him talk...

But just glimpse into Kissinger and Gates regarding their "global ambitions."

This stuff is scary...

[ELVIS]

One explanation is a conspiracy; the other is pragmatic. Both see immorality, and is outraged by it.

I don't like the idea of huge back door meetings where deals are made on a world scale that effect you and me and profit someone else...

[binnie]

I don't like the idea of huge back door meetings where deals are made on a world scale that effect you and me and profit someone else...

Isn't that the nature of ANY government, in any form? Don't all governments have non-public meetings to some extent?

In an ideal form, everything would be public - but is that logistically possible?

And if we're talking about private firms, is it right to ask them to do everything publically? Wouldn't that infringe on their rights (as they are private entities) thus undermining the freedoms we cherish? And wouldn't the state have to be involved in that process (thus awarding it more power?)

[Nitro Express]

The thing is, we know who the bad guys are and we know what their overall game plan is. Basically it's the western bankers who sit on the central banking boards. That's who has the power. Now what are we going to do about it? Standing outside the hotel where The Bilderberg Group is meeting doesn't fix a thing. We all know Bilderberg is who set up the EU and they have plans to organize the world into trade unions and consolidate the world's currencies down to about three or four currencies. They have all these exotic plans but frankly they only accomplished it in Europe. The North American Union failed because the Asians didn't want to trade their US Dollars for Ameros.

There seems to be a showdown between the western bankers and the new rising asian establishment. The Chinese nationalists have infiltrated back into China and you can see it with all the Taiwanese owned factories there. The old communist guard ran by the western oligarchs is dying off. So basically we have to free north America and Europe from these old crusty bastards and it's game over. The only real power they hold in the world is the United States and that is why they are clamping down here. They want that US Dollar and they want the military machine. It's all they care about, there rest of the country and people can rot away for all they care.

My main concern is these bastards don't set off the middle east powder keg to stir the pot. If that happens you will have martial law in the US and military action in the middle east. Russia will react and China might jump in. It will be one biblical scale mess. The mother of all bar brawls with some greedy old fucks trying to take advantage of the situation.

[Nitro Express]

Isn't that the nature of ANY government, in any form? Don't all governments have non-public meetings to some extent?

In an ideal form, everything would be public - but is that logistically possible?

And if we're talking about private firms, is it right to ask them to do everything publically? Wouldn't that infringe on their rights (as they are private entities) thus undermining the freedoms we cherish? And wouldn't the state have to be involved in that process (thus awarding it more power?)

The Bilderberg Group is not a government group. It's a think tank that was organized by the Dutch royal family. They have the legal right to have secret meetings but if US politicians meet in secret at such meetings its in violation of the Logan Act. Also, the Swiss police raided the Bilderberg meeting in Switzerland because one of their official was breaking the law by attending and when a Swiss official showed up to investigate the allegations, Bilderberg security roughed the guy up.

Sure, government officials can meet in secret government meetings but not secret private meetings. There is a difference.

[Nitro Express]

Alex Jones to me is an opportunist. I now Joel Skousen who frequents his show. He's basically a home builder who builds high end homes with all sorts of security features for rich customers. His son writes survival books. Some of the info is factual and I have had people in the know tell me some of it is BS. He has Gerald Celente on a lot. I met him once. He seems like a nice man and even gave me a year subscription to the Trends Journal for a year for free. He does a fabulous job of putting that together but he's out to make money and his financial advice is not very good. Then Alex has that hack Max Keiser on who told everyone to buy silver before silver tanked and then told people to run to Bit Coin and Bit Coin tanked. If you criticize Max his ugly girlfriend comes after you. LOL!

The bottom line is Alex Jones has made a couple million dollars off the internet. End of story.

[ELVIS]

It costs Alex Jones between six and seven million dollars per year to run his operation...

And he claims to have paid himself nothing this year...

[Seshmeister]

[ELVIS]

BTW Sesh...

has the State assigned you a nanny yet ??

[FORD]

wants commited ?

[Nitro Express]

It costs Alex Jones between six and seven million dollars per year to run his operation...

And he claims to have paid himself nothing this year...

You are his accountant? He can say anything. Alex Jones is an actor. He puts on a show. It's conspiracy pro wrestling. In reality, he's been blowing his load for years and has anything changed? Nope. The tyranny rolls forth. Buying an Infowars T Shirt and some vitamin mix and a water filter doesn't change a thing. Unless you persuade your representatives in Washington to change the agency government nothing changes. Power is either political or from the business end of a gun and that's it.

[Nitro Express]

I didn't know Alex ran a craps table at Infowars. What the business man he is. He's running an illegal gambling parlor.

[Nitro Express]

Get out of here Mr. Rockefeller! You are killing a lot of people you scumbag! You are killing people! Soylent Green is people! Iiiiyeeeee!

[Kristy]

Is that a Van Halen t-shirt this cult follower of Jone$ is wearing?

[Nitro Express]

Home gardens are great because you can hide your pot plants with your tomato plants and nobody can tell you are growing growing pot in your yard.

[ELVIS]

BTW Sesh...

has the State assigned you a nanny yet ??

Cat got your tongue, Sesh ??

Let's hear about the state Nanny system in your neck of the woods...

Have they seen to it that your children's vaccines are right on schedule ??

Or do you just get the vouchers ??

Good luck with that big brother bullshit...

[ELVIS]

Oh BTW, have they banned the pint glass at your favourite pub yet ??