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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    There really isn't a liberal political party anymore. Liberal means being all inclusive and being open and letting people live they way they want to. Is that what's running in the current Democrat party? What's come out of there lately are people who want to put everyone in a little box and force them to live according to dictates and shut people up. Oh the excuse is about making a better and fair world. It's like the left took the play book from the extreme religious right who wanted to censor and control everything and took the plays and ran them on steroids.

    These political parties are the main problem. They turn elections into selections. You get to select who the party chooses. It only reduces choice on the ballot. Political parties suck ass.
    This is probably true for the US 2 party system. But, Iīm German. Here we actually have more of a choice. Whatīs more, Iīm an active party member so I do influence policies. I even was the deputy mayor in my part of town for over 4 years and on the local council for 9 years. And Iīm liberal in as far as I believe everybody should be allowed to do whatever he wants as long as he doesnīt harm others by doing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kentuckyklira View Post
    And Iīm liberal in as far as I believe everybody should be allowed to do whatever he wants as long as he doesnīt harm others by doing it!
    Sounds reasonable but what about stuff that could lead to a person harming themselves like smoking crack? You gotta draw the line somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Sounds reasonable but what about stuff that could lead to a person harming themselves like smoking crack? You gotta draw the line somewhere.
    Of course you gotta draw the line somewhere. If 90 % of those who smoke crack turn into lunatic criminals you could argue that smoking crack doesnīt only harm the smoker but will almost certainly lead to harm to others.

    Other than that, regulate and tax the shit out of drugs but make them legal. Regulate so, like with booze and tobacco, kids donīt get hold of it. Tax, so you have a fund to pick up the health care bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentuckyklira View Post
    Of course you gotta draw the line somewhere. If 90 % of those who smoke crack turn into lunatic criminals you could argue that smoking crack doesnīt only harm the smoker but will almost certainly lead to harm to others.

    Other than that, regulate and tax the shit out of drugs but make them legal. Regulate so, like with booze and tobacco, kids donīt get hold of it. Tax, so you have a fund to pick up the health care bills.
    Other than that hard drugs should be legalized? What about heroin, opium and pcp? Those drugs could lead to someone harming someone else too. I left out crank (speed, meth whatever) but I know I would never want that crap to be legalized either. I'm all for legalizing pot but that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Other than that hard drugs should be legalized? What about heroin, opium and pcp? Those drugs could lead to someone harming someone else too. I left out crank (speed, meth whatever) but I know I would never want that crap to be legalized either. I'm all for legalizing pot but that's it.
    Iīm for legalizing everything!

    Iīve spent a small carīs worth of money on cocaine and havenīt said no to speed and meth either. I have a good job and my last check up said Iīm healthy as a horse. I have no debt whatsoever and as long as my employer doesnīt go broke my yearly supply of stock options should leave me fairly wealthy way before retirement.

    Itīs all a question of who has access to what! Look at the USAīs obesity epidemic. Some people shouldnīt even be allowed near a Burger King!

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    In terms of legalizing hard drugs, I would go with the "Phillip Seymour Hoffman" defense. Phil was an experienced drug user. By all rights, he should have known the difference between how much smack he needed to get high, and how much would kill him. Apparently, the stuff that killed him was much purer than the crap he usually shot into his arms, so he thought he was taking the "proper" dose, but instead, caught himself the express ticket to Hell, where he's now comparing notes with Sid Vicious, who pretty much went out the same way.

    Take heroin out of the hands of street criminals who cut it with baby laxative or any other white powdery substance available, and then a dose of smack will be a dose of smack and nobody will accidentally OD just because they find a slightly more reputable dealer.

    Not that I'm advocating heroin use. Never tried it, never wanted to, seen lives destroyed by it. Not remotely interested. But I'd rather take the criminals out of the equation and treat addiction as a health problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post

    Take heroin out of the hands of street criminals who cut it with baby laxative or any other white powdery substance available, and then a dose of smack will be a dose of smack and nobody will accidentally OD just because they find a slightly more reputable dealer.
    I've never done heroin either but I've done morphine. I was in the hospital on morphine for two weeks one time. I felt like one of the walking dead for about a month afterwards. My friend in Washington got into heroin for awhile. After two stints in prison he got clean but he was hooked on the crap they gave him to get off heroin. Suboxone. I'm pretty sure he got back to smack right before I split town. I found out his old lady never quit around the same time.

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